<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for It’s a poor indicator of progress on global warming]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by jjwfmme http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:26:52 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/1 Comment by the atmosphere:

The atmosphere:

"You know, those humans were releasing all this CO2, and so I was going to heat up. But then I saw that the humans were like, so intense. Their lawyers, policy wonks and number-crunchers were working really hard. So I gave them a break and suspended the laws of physics."

]]> Comment by the atmosphere:

The atmosphere:

"You know, those humans were releasing all this CO2, and so I was going to heat up. But then I saw that the humans were like, so intense. Their lawyers, policy wonks and number-crunchers were working really hard. So I gave them a break and suspended the laws of physics."

]]> Comment #2 by wacki http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:15:37 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/2 what?

18% by 2012?

I didn't realize our greenhouse gas emissions were projected to decline at that rate.  Given the amount of coal fire power stations we are building I would have expected an increase.  Anyone have any more info on the yearly anthropogenic CO2 emissions and projections?

]]> what?

18% by 2012?

I didn't realize our greenhouse gas emissions were projected to decline at that rate.  Given the amount of coal fire power stations we are building I would have expected an increase.  Anyone have any more info on the yearly anthropogenic CO2 emissions and projections?

]]> Comment #3 by Andrew Dessler http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:40:55 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/3 You're confusing intensity w/ emissions

Wacki-

Our emissions are NOT going down.  The emissions intensity is going down.  Our economy is growing fast enough that total emissions are still growing rapidly.

Regards.

]]> You're confusing intensity w/ emissions

Wacki-

Our emissions are NOT going down.  The emissions intensity is going down.  Our economy is growing fast enough that total emissions are still growing rapidly.

Regards.

]]> Comment #4 by Zarkov http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:30:39 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/4 Vacuum

Do you ever feel that you are screaming into a vacuum?

But maybe it is best we don't know we are already doomed.

Good luck guys, see you in " another time, another place, with another face"(Van Morrison)

]]> Vacuum

Do you ever feel that you are screaming into a vacuum?

But maybe it is best we don't know we are already doomed.

Good luck guys, see you in " another time, another place, with another face"(Van Morrison)

]]> Comment #5 by jjwfmme http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:47:02 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/5 If you're going to use the word, use quotes

Over the past few decades, greenhouse gas intensity has declined somewhere between 1% and 2% per year.

"Intensity" is such a contrivance of a word that I wouldn't use it without scare quotes. Just using it as if it were legitimate buys into the spin...

]]> If you're going to use the word, use quotes

Over the past few decades, greenhouse gas intensity has declined somewhere between 1% and 2% per year.

"Intensity" is such a contrivance of a word that I wouldn't use it without scare quotes. Just using it as if it were legitimate buys into the spin...

]]> Comment #6 by JMG http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:55:09 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/6 With enemies like these, you know it's good

(Old pilot saying:  you only get flak when you're over the target.)

OPEC Says British Climate Change Report "Unfounded"

http://www.planetark.com/avantgo/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsi...

]]> With enemies like these, you know it's good

(Old pilot saying:  you only get flak when you're over the target.)

OPEC Says British Climate Change Report "Unfounded"

http://www.planetark.com/avantgo/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsi...

]]> Comment #7 by wedjr http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:30:13 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/7 Snow Job

Tony Snow trotted out exactly this same malarkey yesterday at his press briefing, saying with straight face that the President, contrary to stereotypes, is actively engaged in trying to fight climate change. Transcript here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061031-...

]]> Snow Job

Tony Snow trotted out exactly this same malarkey yesterday at his press briefing, saying with straight face that the President, contrary to stereotypes, is actively engaged in trying to fight climate change. Transcript here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061031-...

]]> Comment #8 by Lab Lemming http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:20:46 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/8 confused

Does GHG intensity improvement mean that global warming has not yet reached the point where it is slowing economic growth?

-Lab LEmming

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Does GHG intensity improvement mean that global warming has not yet reached the point where it is slowing economic growth?

-Lab LEmming

]]> Comment #9 by ClimateCriminal http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:38:55 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/9 Nature Cannot Be Fooled

Richard Feynman said "Nature cannot be fooled!"

No amount of mathematical jiggery-pokery will deceive mother nature, even though we humans deceive ourselves!

Science trumps everything - religion, politics!

]]> Nature Cannot Be Fooled

Richard Feynman said "Nature cannot be fooled!"

No amount of mathematical jiggery-pokery will deceive mother nature, even though we humans deceive ourselves!

Science trumps everything - religion, politics!

]]> Comment #10 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:29:34 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/10 Coal to liquid

Coal to liquid fuel and fuel farming emit more than  twice the GHG per mile driven of fossil fuel.  That will be a huge intensifier of GHG per unit of economic bullshit figuring by wall street/duuhbya friendly liars disguised as economists.

Not a good result.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Coal to liquid

Coal to liquid fuel and fuel farming emit more than  twice the GHG per mile driven of fossil fuel.  That will be a huge intensifier of GHG per unit of economic bullshit figuring by wall street/duuhbya friendly liars disguised as economists.

Not a good result.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #11 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/ Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:09:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/on-greenhouse-gas-intensity/11 Smart fuel cell

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070917/ ...

A smart fuel cell "island" grid design?  Very good!  and it runs on biogas or natural gas.  That's distributed generation and storage.

This is the way to really reduce GHG.  Fuel cell/turbines put out half the ghg per unit of energy.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Smart fuel cell

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070917/ ...

A smart fuel cell "island" grid design?  Very good!  and it runs on biogas or natural gas.  That's distributed generation and storage.

This is the way to really reduce GHG.  Fuel cell/turbines put out half the ghg per unit of energy.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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