<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Congress scrambles for short-term solutions to counter oil prices]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Colin Wright http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/ Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:12:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/1 How to end the price rationing?

Richard Heinberg has a good relevant piece on GlobalPublicMedia:How badly do we want cheaper oil? Badly enough to cooperate internationally? Badly enough to lower our consumption? As soon as we want it that badly, we'll have it. Until then, the market rules. Welcome aboard the oil-price escalator

In the meantime, how about some Federal help with transit? Here in Seattle/King Co. we're looking at our second fare increase this year to cope with higher diesel prices. Meanwhile other areas are cutting service.

]]> How to end the price rationing?

Richard Heinberg has a good relevant piece on GlobalPublicMedia:How badly do we want cheaper oil? Badly enough to cooperate internationally? Badly enough to lower our consumption? As soon as we want it that badly, we'll have it. Until then, the market rules. Welcome aboard the oil-price escalator

In the meantime, how about some Federal help with transit? Here in Seattle/King Co. we're looking at our second fare increase this year to cope with higher diesel prices. Meanwhile other areas are cutting service.

]]> Comment #2 by Jon Rynn http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/ Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:26:11 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/2 Maybe the oil depletion protocol

will finally get a hearing, somewhere, although I'm not holding my breath.  Interesting statement here from Heinberg: "there is no existing market-based fix for the fix we're in."

]]> Maybe the oil depletion protocol

will finally get a hearing, somewhere, although I'm not holding my breath.  Interesting statement here from Heinberg: "there is no existing market-based fix for the fix we're in."

]]> Comment #3 by cjwirth http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/ Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:34:34 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/3 Peak Oil is a catastrophe

Global oil production is now declining, from 85 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. At the same time demand will increase 14%. This is like a 45% drop in 7 years. No one can reverse this trend, nor can we conserve our way out of this catastrophe.

Because the demand for oil is so high, it will always be higher than production; thus the depletion rate will continue until all recoverable oil is extracted.

We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel trucks for maintenance of bridges, cleaning culverts to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables, all from far away. With the highways out, there will be no food coming in from "outside," and without the power grid virtually nothing works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated systems.

This is documented in a free 48 page report that can be downloaded, website posted, distributed, and emailed: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html
Anyone interested in relocating to a sustainable area?

cjwirth http://www.peakoilassociates.com


]]> Peak Oil is a catastrophe

Global oil production is now declining, from 85 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. At the same time demand will increase 14%. This is like a 45% drop in 7 years. No one can reverse this trend, nor can we conserve our way out of this catastrophe.

Because the demand for oil is so high, it will always be higher than production; thus the depletion rate will continue until all recoverable oil is extracted.

We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel trucks for maintenance of bridges, cleaning culverts to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables, all from far away. With the highways out, there will be no food coming in from "outside," and without the power grid virtually nothing works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated systems.

This is documented in a free 48 page report that can be downloaded, website posted, distributed, and emailed: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html
Anyone interested in relocating to a sustainable area?

cjwirth http://www.peakoilassociates.com


]]> Comment #4 by GRLCowan http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/ Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:29:19 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/oil-hysteria-part-3/4 It is illegal to waste gasoline by speeding ...

and it is illegal, when walking past a police car in the donut shop parking lot, and noticing a policeman sitting in it, to whip out one's car key and scratch said car's paint with it.

If the price of petroleum rises enough that government finds it necessary to begin subsidizing fuels derived from it, just so people can continue to get to work and pay income tax, these two crimes' degrees of illegality, now very different, will instantly become, from highway patrolmen's point of view, the same.

That is to say, price rising beyond a certain point will find a step change, downward, in demand.

--- G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996
http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/boron_blast.html

]]> It is illegal to waste gasoline by speeding ...

and it is illegal, when walking past a police car in the donut shop parking lot, and noticing a policeman sitting in it, to whip out one's car key and scratch said car's paint with it.

If the price of petroleum rises enough that government finds it necessary to begin subsidizing fuels derived from it, just so people can continue to get to work and pay income tax, these two crimes' degrees of illegality, now very different, will instantly become, from highway patrolmen's point of view, the same.

That is to say, price rising beyond a certain point will find a step change, downward, in demand.

--- G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996
http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/boron_blast.html

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