<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Dispatch from San Francisco]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:05:02 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/1 In Oakland he...

spent a few minutes of alternative energy and climate change and while not front and center, were spoken with intensity as well.

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

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spent a few minutes of alternative energy and climate change and while not front and center, were spoken with intensity as well.

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

]]> Comment #2 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:14:53 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/2 Details

From what I've seen, at least on the public record, Obama's advocacy of alternative fuels comes down to support for ethanol and coal-to-liquids. Not so exciting.

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From what I've seen, at least on the public record, Obama's advocacy of alternative fuels comes down to support for ethanol and coal-to-liquids. Not so exciting.

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]]> Comment #3 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:42:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/3 That's true...

it's part politics, part the environment not being taken seriously, and part the general field not having many alternatives. He can do a lot better-I'm trying to help him!!!

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

]]> That's true...

it's part politics, part the environment not being taken seriously, and part the general field not having many alternatives. He can do a lot better-I'm trying to help him!!!

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

]]> Comment #4 by sunflower http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:14:23 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/4 Obama should listen to Edwards on CO2

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]]> Comment #5 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:03:50 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/5 It would be nice

to have an articulate president for a change.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

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to have an articulate president for a change.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Comment #6 by Ron Steenblik http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:39:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/6 Obama = ethanol

There are currently 35 bills before the 110th Congress that contain the word "ethanol". Obama's name figures on several of the major ones introduced into the Senate.

S. 133 (the American Fuels Act of 2007), for example, initiated by Obama and introduced in the Senate on 4 January 2007, would provide a 35¢/gallon retail tax credit for each gallon of E85 (or E70 during wintertime) sold before 2010. This, of course, would be in addition to existing (51¢/gallon) blending and (10¢/gallon) small-producer credits.

S. 23 (the Biofuels Security Act of 2007), would mandate at least 60,000,000,000 gallons of "renewable" fuel be used by the year 2030.

This is somebody with a balanced, prudent approach to policymaking?

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There are currently 35 bills before the 110th Congress that contain the word "ethanol". Obama's name figures on several of the major ones introduced into the Senate.

S. 133 (the American Fuels Act of 2007), for example, initiated by Obama and introduced in the Senate on 4 January 2007, would provide a 35¢/gallon retail tax credit for each gallon of E85 (or E70 during wintertime) sold before 2010. This, of course, would be in addition to existing (51¢/gallon) blending and (10¢/gallon) small-producer credits.

S. 23 (the Biofuels Security Act of 2007), would mandate at least 60,000,000,000 gallons of "renewable" fuel be used by the year 2030.

This is somebody with a balanced, prudent approach to policymaking?

]]> Comment #7 by wiscidea http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:45:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/7 He's already being overly cautious...

Obama apologized for the following remarks...

"We ended up launching a war that should have never been authorized, and should have never been waged, and to which we have now spent $400 billion and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted."

This statement is apparently offensive to the families of service members who have died or are still fightening. Sorry folks, those lives are being wasted and the longer Americans remain in Iraq the more lives GW is wasting.

I feel especially sympathetic toward those people who signed up to protect America after 9/11... those who signed up to go after those who attacked us. GW might have made their sacrifice worthwhile by fighting and winning the war in Afghanistan... taking it to the enemy. But GW fed those brave men and women into the meat grinder called Iraq. And now we are supposed to send more in because otherwise the lives already lost will be wasted. They are only wasted if we never learn our lesson from this event. They are only wasted if we continue down this path generation after generation.

Obama should not have apologized. He should have used the media spotlight to explain exactly why he expressed this particular view. He should have challenged the Republicans -- and the conservative bloggers who still support them -- to explain exactly why those lives are not being wasted.

Sorry, but Obama is starting to look like one more smary politician not willing to lead... one more smary politician sitting on the fence to avoid offending any potential voters. I can't support him. I suspect he is just particularly skilled at playing the game so he sounds sincere. I don't know what he really believes.

Forward!

]]> He's already being overly cautious...

Obama apologized for the following remarks...

"We ended up launching a war that should have never been authorized, and should have never been waged, and to which we have now spent $400 billion and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted."

This statement is apparently offensive to the families of service members who have died or are still fightening. Sorry folks, those lives are being wasted and the longer Americans remain in Iraq the more lives GW is wasting.

I feel especially sympathetic toward those people who signed up to protect America after 9/11... those who signed up to go after those who attacked us. GW might have made their sacrifice worthwhile by fighting and winning the war in Afghanistan... taking it to the enemy. But GW fed those brave men and women into the meat grinder called Iraq. And now we are supposed to send more in because otherwise the lives already lost will be wasted. They are only wasted if we never learn our lesson from this event. They are only wasted if we continue down this path generation after generation.

Obama should not have apologized. He should have used the media spotlight to explain exactly why he expressed this particular view. He should have challenged the Republicans -- and the conservative bloggers who still support them -- to explain exactly why those lives are not being wasted.

Sorry, but Obama is starting to look like one more smary politician not willing to lead... one more smary politician sitting on the fence to avoid offending any potential voters. I can't support him. I suspect he is just particularly skilled at playing the game so he sounds sincere. I don't know what he really believes.

Forward!

]]> Comment #8 by wiscidea http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:47:45 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/8 smarmy

not smary... SMARMY

Forward!

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not smary... SMARMY

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]]> Comment #9 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:55:23 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/9 Vote for whom you want....

but if you look carefully at Obama's votes and speeches I think you will find a consistent progressive. If you're looking for purity you will always be disappointed.

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

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but if you look carefully at Obama's votes and speeches I think you will find a consistent progressive. If you're looking for purity you will always be disappointed.

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

]]> Comment #10 by wiscidea http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:04:47 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/10 Not looking for purity...

JS, I'm not sure which comment you are responding to. But I'll assume for a moment it is directed toward more than one person.

I'm NOT looking for purity. Obama does not have to have a perfect record. If he emerges from the primary as the Democratic candidate for President, I will vote for him.

But when I vote in the primary, I will be looking for a candidate who is not afraid to express his opinions. He should lead, explain his views, and let the voters decide whether they like him. He should not try to conceal certain views that a certain demographic might find offensive. I want to see the real Obama.

Forward!

]]> Not looking for purity...

JS, I'm not sure which comment you are responding to. But I'll assume for a moment it is directed toward more than one person.

I'm NOT looking for purity. Obama does not have to have a perfect record. If he emerges from the primary as the Democratic candidate for President, I will vote for him.

But when I vote in the primary, I will be looking for a candidate who is not afraid to express his opinions. He should lead, explain his views, and let the voters decide whether they like him. He should not try to conceal certain views that a certain demographic might find offensive. I want to see the real Obama.

Forward!

]]> Comment #11 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:42:30 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/11 Obama's recent comments on the environment....

He outlined his environmental platform, saying he is a chief sponsor, along with U.S. Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and John McCain, R-Ariz., of a "cap and trade" bill that would allow polluters to sell and trade credits for reducing emissions, spurring more climate protection by industry. Obama said he also supports higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars, increased production of various types of ethanol, and "sequestration" of the carbon dioxide emitted from coal plants, an emerging, as yet unproven, technology.

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/19/obama_offers_change ...

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

]]> Obama's recent comments on the environment....

He outlined his environmental platform, saying he is a chief sponsor, along with U.S. Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and John McCain, R-Ariz., of a "cap and trade" bill that would allow polluters to sell and trade credits for reducing emissions, spurring more climate protection by industry. Obama said he also supports higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars, increased production of various types of ethanol, and "sequestration" of the carbon dioxide emitted from coal plants, an emerging, as yet unproven, technology.

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/19/obama_offers_change ...

I teach environmental economics and blog at http://www.voicesofreason.info. I am a proud liberal, who stands on the shoulders of giants.

]]> Comment #12 by Greta http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:56:59 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/12 Iraq Osama...Barrack Obama

REVISED: He is 'black', has a middle name "Hussein", a first name that rhymes with Iraq, and a last name that rhymes with Osama.  Don't see him winning the redneck vote.  

I'll look at this record, but he seems too slick to me.  Saw him on an Oprah show with his wife, and he answered mere conversational questions like a politician...skillfully crafting vague, safe responses.  So, he doesn't look like a 'refreshing change' to me.  

www.NoPunProductions.com ~ AmericaTheGreen.org

]]> Iraq Osama...Barrack Obama

REVISED: He is 'black', has a middle name "Hussein", a first name that rhymes with Iraq, and a last name that rhymes with Osama.  Don't see him winning the redneck vote.  

I'll look at this record, but he seems too slick to me.  Saw him on an Oprah show with his wife, and he answered mere conversational questions like a politician...skillfully crafting vague, safe responses.  So, he doesn't look like a 'refreshing change' to me.  

www.NoPunProductions.com ~ AmericaTheGreen.org

]]> Comment #13 by Adam Browning http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/ Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:10:18 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/obamamania/13 making waves

Check this

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