<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Gingrich’s ‘grassroots’ drilling campaign is funded by Big Oil, report says]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Brad Johnson http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:24:13 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/1 Correction

Wilkinson in fact donated $25,000, not $250,000.

See here.

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Wilkinson in fact donated $25,000, not $250,000.

See here.

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]]> Comment #2 by JakobFabian01 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:34:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/2 Cashing in on a Crisis

That's all the Gingrich plan is.  Its beneficiaries will be limited to investors in oil company stocks, who will see their capital gains rise a little.  The rest of us won't see any change in gasoline prices for years, if ever.

I'm not even saying that all offshore drilling is always wrong.  But this notion that we need to "do it now" without due consideration of the very real risks that offshore drilling poses to the other real benefits that our coastal waters provide us - fish, for example - really sounds like a baaaaad deal.

I think Gingrich wants us to accept his deal with as little forethought as possible.  This explains his great hurry.

Even if his petition fails to have much influence in Congress - and let's hope it doesn't - it should still provide the Republican Party with a handy list of useful, gung-ho dupes to target with future propaganda and campaign literature.

]]> Cashing in on a Crisis

That's all the Gingrich plan is.  Its beneficiaries will be limited to investors in oil company stocks, who will see their capital gains rise a little.  The rest of us won't see any change in gasoline prices for years, if ever.

I'm not even saying that all offshore drilling is always wrong.  But this notion that we need to "do it now" without due consideration of the very real risks that offshore drilling poses to the other real benefits that our coastal waters provide us - fish, for example - really sounds like a baaaaad deal.

I think Gingrich wants us to accept his deal with as little forethought as possible.  This explains his great hurry.

Even if his petition fails to have much influence in Congress - and let's hope it doesn't - it should still provide the Republican Party with a handy list of useful, gung-ho dupes to target with future propaganda and campaign literature.

]]> Comment #3 by Brad Johnson http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:49:14 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/3 Another correction

Robert W. "Woody" Johnson IV, who donated $50K, is not the Robert W. Johnson who was an Exxon attorney. Instead he is the owner of NY Jets and a top Bush pioneer.

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]]> Another correction

Robert W. "Woody" Johnson IV, who donated $50K, is not the Robert W. Johnson who was an Exxon attorney. Instead he is the owner of NY Jets and a top Bush pioneer.

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]]> Comment #4 by Brad Johnson http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:51:40 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/4 Another correction

Also, it's Reality Mobile, not Mobil. It's not exactly an oil industry company, but is part of the military-industrial complex.

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]]> Another correction

Also, it's Reality Mobile, not Mobil. It's not exactly an oil industry company, but is part of the military-industrial complex.

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]]> Comment #5 by JeffB http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:16:08 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/5 Piss Poor Journalism

Fact check.  Fact check.  Fact check.

If you are concerned about the environment, you can't fall into the same sloppy journalism as the institutional main stream media.  Those who are resistant to change will use such sloppiness to discredit scientific evidence and legitimate argumentation.

Grist, platitudes for fixing this post once you saw that it was in error.  (You really shouldn't have posted it in the first place.)

]]> Piss Poor Journalism

Fact check.  Fact check.  Fact check.

If you are concerned about the environment, you can't fall into the same sloppy journalism as the institutional main stream media.  Those who are resistant to change will use such sloppiness to discredit scientific evidence and legitimate argumentation.

Grist, platitudes for fixing this post once you saw that it was in error.  (You really shouldn't have posted it in the first place.)

]]> Comment #6 by Sean Casten http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:43:46 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/6 Duraflame is a part of the oil industry?

OK, they add petroleum products, but by that logic, every business that produces a product that includes plastics, carbon black or other embedded petroleum is part of Big Oil.  Seems a stretch.

That said, where's Philpott coming down on this one.   Cracker Barrel?

]]> Duraflame is a part of the oil industry?

OK, they add petroleum products, but by that logic, every business that produces a product that includes plastics, carbon black or other embedded petroleum is part of Big Oil.  Seems a stretch.

That said, where's Philpott coming down on this one.   Cracker Barrel?

]]> Comment #7 by MattKirby http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:06:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/7 1.3 million signatories? That's nothing

How does one respond to the petition of the people?  Well, for starters, I hear from Defenders of Wildlife that they've got 6 coastal governors strongly opposed to offshore drilling.  In total they represent almost 64 million constituents.  Gingrich's petition is a gimmick.

http://www.sierraclub.org/wildlegacy/blog/

]]> 1.3 million signatories? That's nothing

How does one respond to the petition of the people?  Well, for starters, I hear from Defenders of Wildlife that they've got 6 coastal governors strongly opposed to offshore drilling.  In total they represent almost 64 million constituents.  Gingrich's petition is a gimmick.

http://www.sierraclub.org/wildlegacy/blog/

]]> Comment #8 by glanders http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:36:22 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nothing-newt-under-the-sun/8 It's time to nationalize the energy industry

The oil and gas industry spent great gobs of money working us toward the two biggest challenges of the 21st century - the end of oil and advent of global warming. Now they are spending even more money to exploit for their own purposes the fears people have in the hard times the industry itself created.

I'm tired of big oil pushing us around with bought politicians, bogus "science", and disinformation campaigns. I'm tired too of the industry deciding the ground on which debate takes place. Isn't it time to call for the nationalization of oil and gas production? I certainly think so.

If the oil and gas industry is nationalized, we could finally have a energy policy driven by current and future needs, with profits poured into finding ways to transition away from petroleum and implementation of policies to mitigate global warming.

]]> It's time to nationalize the energy industry

The oil and gas industry spent great gobs of money working us toward the two biggest challenges of the 21st century - the end of oil and advent of global warming. Now they are spending even more money to exploit for their own purposes the fears people have in the hard times the industry itself created.

I'm tired of big oil pushing us around with bought politicians, bogus "science", and disinformation campaigns. I'm tired too of the industry deciding the ground on which debate takes place. Isn't it time to call for the nationalization of oil and gas production? I certainly think so.

If the oil and gas industry is nationalized, we could finally have a energy policy driven by current and future needs, with profits poured into finding ways to transition away from petroleum and implementation of policies to mitigate global warming.

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