<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Nice way of life. Shame if something happened to it.]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Wolverine http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Sat, 31 May 2008 04:09:24 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/1 Good Riddance!

The American way of life is pure evil.  It's based on totally selfish individualism, at the expense of the Earth, other cultures, and other people.

As to the ad itself, it's very vague.  Without the identifier at the end, I wouldn't haven known whether the point was that if we're going to use coal at all we need it to stop emitting CO2, or that we need coal.  Not a very good piece of propaganda.

]]> Good Riddance!

The American way of life is pure evil.  It's based on totally selfish individualism, at the expense of the Earth, other cultures, and other people.

As to the ad itself, it's very vague.  Without the identifier at the end, I wouldn't haven known whether the point was that if we're going to use coal at all we need it to stop emitting CO2, or that we need coal.  Not a very good piece of propaganda.

]]> Comment #2 by Laurence Aurbach http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Sat, 31 May 2008 04:43:49 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/2 failure of common sense

According to that advertisement the American way of life is all about friends, family, cows and horses.

America had all those things before coal. America will have all those things after coal.

Ped Shed Blog

]]> failure of common sense

According to that advertisement the American way of life is all about friends, family, cows and horses.

America had all those things before coal. America will have all those things after coal.

Ped Shed Blog

]]> Comment #3 by taylorshelton http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:50:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/3 oh no

please gag me. This is one of the worst 30 second clips I have ever seen.

]]> oh no

please gag me. This is one of the worst 30 second clips I have ever seen.

]]> Comment #4 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:01:18 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/4 I can't wait.

Just imagine spending a winters evening in a toasty hot tub heated with the excess heat from my combined PV/thermal panels. I can afford the hot tub since the majority of the heating load is taken by my geo-exchange HVAC system and my oversized ground-loop has plenty of heat stored from last summer's cooling. The hot-tub gets the heat dump on sunny days after the shower tank is full and the ground loop is above 55 degrees.

I used the day's sunny weather to bike the two miles to the grocery and I'm ignoring the fact that I had an electric assist back up the hill when I said I deserved a hot tub. Since everybody works four-day weeks to save gas and jobs are mostly full-time (same reason) I had my  Friday to clean up the greenhouse, harvest a salad and plant some pea starts.

Beef is a little pricey but there's usually a neighbor that has rabbit, goat or chicken in the freezer they're willing to haggle for. I trade for homemade pickles and salsa since I don't mind canning. The free-range diet, biking and gardening has eliminated the spare tire also.

Yeah, life without coal would suck. Sure it would.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> I can't wait.

Just imagine spending a winters evening in a toasty hot tub heated with the excess heat from my combined PV/thermal panels. I can afford the hot tub since the majority of the heating load is taken by my geo-exchange HVAC system and my oversized ground-loop has plenty of heat stored from last summer's cooling. The hot-tub gets the heat dump on sunny days after the shower tank is full and the ground loop is above 55 degrees.

I used the day's sunny weather to bike the two miles to the grocery and I'm ignoring the fact that I had an electric assist back up the hill when I said I deserved a hot tub. Since everybody works four-day weeks to save gas and jobs are mostly full-time (same reason) I had my  Friday to clean up the greenhouse, harvest a salad and plant some pea starts.

Beef is a little pricey but there's usually a neighbor that has rabbit, goat or chicken in the freezer they're willing to haggle for. I trade for homemade pickles and salsa since I don't mind canning. The free-range diet, biking and gardening has eliminated the spare tire also.

Yeah, life without coal would suck. Sure it would.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #5 by sindark http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:27:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/5 Outcomes

There are a number of possible outcomes here:

People do nothing, climate change destroys the American way of life.

People sacrifice the American way of life to stop climate change, people survive but live differently.

People manage to stop climate change without sacrificing the American way of life.

The question is whether we really want to risk #1 in order to shoot for #3 instead of #2.

a sibilant intake of breath

]]> Outcomes

There are a number of possible outcomes here:

People do nothing, climate change destroys the American way of life.

People sacrifice the American way of life to stop climate change, people survive but live differently.

People manage to stop climate change without sacrificing the American way of life.

The question is whether we really want to risk #1 in order to shoot for #3 instead of #2.

a sibilant intake of breath

]]> Comment #6 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:53:46 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/6 Excuse

4.  Use curing GHG climate disaster as a justification for switching from quantity of consumption and possesions as a measure of human happiness and fullfillment; to a focus on quality of life.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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4.  Use curing GHG climate disaster as a justification for switching from quantity of consumption and possesions as a measure of human happiness and fullfillment; to a focus on quality of life.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #7 by redambrosia99 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:37:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/nice-way-of-life-shame-if-something-happened-to-it/7 boo

Wait, if the American way of life involves horses I've been cheated!  I've never had a horse (or even a pony).  BOOOOOOO!!! Hisssss!  Gimme pony!

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Wait, if the American way of life involves horses I've been cheated!  I've never had a horse (or even a pony).  BOOOOOOO!!! Hisssss!  Gimme pony!

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