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            <title>Comment #1 by David Roberts</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:01:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tim Lambert ...<p>... has <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/investors_business_daily_has_a.php" rel="nofollow">a great post on this -- really gives a sense of how absurd and random it is. I sense increasing desperation among the flat earthers.

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				<p><strong>Tim Lambert ...<p>... has <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/investors_business_daily_has_a.php" rel="nofollow">a great post on this -- really gives a sense of how absurd and random it is. I sense increasing desperation among the flat earthers.

<p>grist.org</p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Delay And Deny</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:09:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Deluders Have A Lot of Oars in The Water<p><br>
I guess its ok to cry "swift" boat once in a while, but now it's like every day!<p>
I also notice a disturbing trend among climate Deluders -- if no one pays attention to them, they claim that someone is "out to get them".<p>
Yeah, guys, most people are trying to get home from work...in their SUVs!!!

<p>John Bailo<br>
<a href="http://sutext.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">Sutext:</a></br></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Deluders Have A Lot of Oars in The Water<p><br>
I guess its ok to cry "swift" boat once in a while, but now it's like every day!<p>
I also notice a disturbing trend among climate Deluders -- if no one pays attention to them, they claim that someone is "out to get them".<p>
Yeah, guys, most people are trying to get home from work...in their SUVs!!!

<p>John Bailo<br>
<a href="http://sutext.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">Sutext:</a></br></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Des Emery</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:32:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Swiftboats and Hansen</strong></p><p>Some strange people still don't get it &nbsp;-- &nbsp;this world is over as is. &nbsp;When Global Warming takes over it will be too late (if it isn't already) to ditch the SUV and the internal combustion engine. &nbsp;All it takes is a few keystrokes on your computer to bring up pictures of arctic meltdown, glacier retreat, increasing drought, etc., and all of it worldwide, not just a local phenomenon. &nbsp;Is it a natural happening or a man-made occurrence? &nbsp;Who cares! All we can do is try to figure out some way to handle disaster.

<p>Des Emery</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Swiftboats and Hansen</strong></p><p>Some strange people still don't get it &nbsp;-- &nbsp;this world is over as is. &nbsp;When Global Warming takes over it will be too late (if it isn't already) to ditch the SUV and the internal combustion engine. &nbsp;All it takes is a few keystrokes on your computer to bring up pictures of arctic meltdown, glacier retreat, increasing drought, etc., and all of it worldwide, not just a local phenomenon. &nbsp;Is it a natural happening or a man-made occurrence? &nbsp;Who cares! All we can do is try to figure out some way to handle disaster.

<p>Des Emery</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by wendigo</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:59:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>if at first you don't succeed...</strong></p><p>Hansen is the most visible face of climate-change science. &nbsp;His career and credentials are impeccable, so the only way those with a vested interest in continuing the status quo can try to bring him down is by throwing out one red herring after another. &nbsp;Even though none of them are legitimate, it is their hope that by associating Hansen's name with one made-up scandal after another, over a period of time, the public and lawmakers will eventually have a lower opinion of him, and so be less likely to listen to him. &nbsp;It's a good strategy. &nbsp;It's also dishonest.</p>
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				<p><strong>if at first you don't succeed...</strong></p><p>Hansen is the most visible face of climate-change science. &nbsp;His career and credentials are impeccable, so the only way those with a vested interest in continuing the status quo can try to bring him down is by throwing out one red herring after another. &nbsp;Even though none of them are legitimate, it is their hope that by associating Hansen's name with one made-up scandal after another, over a period of time, the public and lawmakers will eventually have a lower opinion of him, and so be less likely to listen to him. &nbsp;It's a good strategy. &nbsp;It's also dishonest.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by eriqa</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:23:59 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>How indeed</strong></p><p>"For how can you compete, &nbsp; <br>
Being honour bred, with one &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
Who, were it proved he lies, &nbsp; <br>
Were neither shamed in his own &nbsp; <br>
Nor in his neighbours' eyes?"</p><p>
(From W. B. Yeats's wise, sad 1914 poem, "To A Friend Whose Work Has Come to Nothing." 93 years later, it's still an unanswerable question.) </br></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>How indeed</strong></p><p>"For how can you compete, &nbsp; <br>
Being honour bred, with one &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
Who, were it proved he lies, &nbsp; <br>
Were neither shamed in his own &nbsp; <br>
Nor in his neighbours' eyes?"</p><p>
(From W. B. Yeats's wise, sad 1914 poem, "To A Friend Whose Work Has Come to Nothing." 93 years later, it's still an unanswerable question.) </br></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by GreyFlcn</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:48:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>This explains it<p>"So let me get this straight. <p>
Soros funds a foundation. <p>
That foundation gives $720,000 total to watchdog organizations, including $100,000 to GAP. <p>
GAP offers $10,000 to Hansen, which he declines. <p>
GAP also offer legal representation to Hansen,<br>
which he accepts to the tune of one written letter. <br>
One frickin' legal letter. <p>
And somehow, people are jumping in condemning Hansen, <br>
Rather than the guys who claim this shows that Soros bought Hansen for $720,000." <br>
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/the_exxon_funded_swift_boating.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/the_exxon_funded_ ...</a></br></br></p></br></br></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>This explains it<p>"So let me get this straight. <p>
Soros funds a foundation. <p>
That foundation gives $720,000 total to watchdog organizations, including $100,000 to GAP. <p>
GAP offers $10,000 to Hansen, which he declines. <p>
GAP also offer legal representation to Hansen,<br>
which he accepts to the tune of one written letter. <br>
One frickin' legal letter. <p>
And somehow, people are jumping in condemning Hansen, <br>
Rather than the guys who claim this shows that Soros bought Hansen for $720,000." <br>
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/the_exxon_funded_swift_boating.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/09/the_exxon_funded_ ...</a></br></br></p></br></br></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by planetthoughts</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-swiftboating-of-james-hansen/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:09:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Stay with the Truth<p>Those who lie will pay the price; it is a universal law. &nbsp;Those who speak the truth will find peace.<p>
James Hansen is a hero, and his place in the history of humanity is assured, as is the place of every truth-teller and those who try to get the truth out but are not in a strong enough position to do so safely.<p>
Their position is infinitely better than those sad-sacks who are clinging to misbegotten positions of guarding the status quo, which will not be here in 20 years, and maybe not even in 5 years.<br>


<p>David Alexander<br>
<a href="http://www.planetthoughts.org" rel="nofollow">PlanetThoughts.org<br>
Love your Planet.</br></a></br></p></br></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Stay with the Truth<p>Those who lie will pay the price; it is a universal law. &nbsp;Those who speak the truth will find peace.<p>
James Hansen is a hero, and his place in the history of humanity is assured, as is the place of every truth-teller and those who try to get the truth out but are not in a strong enough position to do so safely.<p>
Their position is infinitely better than those sad-sacks who are clinging to misbegotten positions of guarding the status quo, which will not be here in 20 years, and maybe not even in 5 years.<br>


<p>David Alexander<br>
<a href="http://www.planetthoughts.org" rel="nofollow">PlanetThoughts.org<br>
Love your Planet.</br></a></br></p></br></p></p></p></strong></p>
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