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            <title>Comment #1 by Benny Big Eye</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-on-the-reasonable-middle/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:22:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Classic Pielke Jr.</strong></p><p>You left out Pielk Jr., current love child of the Republican Congress. Pielke should get a gold star for irony with this quote.</p><p>
From the article <strong>"He's a very polarizing figure in the science community," said Roger A. Pielke Jr., an environmental scientist who is a colleague of Dr. Vranes at the University of Colorado center. "Very quickly, these discussions turn from the issue to the person, and become a referendum on Mr. Gore."</strong>

<p>Benny Big Eye</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Classic Pielke Jr.</strong></p><p>You left out Pielk Jr., current love child of the Republican Congress. Pielke should get a gold star for irony with this quote.</p><p>
From the article <strong>"He's a very polarizing figure in the science community," said Roger A. Pielke Jr., an environmental scientist who is a colleague of Dr. Vranes at the University of Colorado center. "Very quickly, these discussions turn from the issue to the person, and become a referendum on Mr. Gore."</strong>

<p>Benny Big Eye</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:47:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Related, but not directly<p>Almost at the same time, across the pond, there was another environmental hitjob.<p>
Channel 4 in the UK has been running this:<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKUVmLW8Nk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKUVmLW8Nk<p>
I think we could use a good dosage of grist debunking.<p>
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Gotta love it, it features our good friend Patrick Moore.</p></p></p></a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Related, but not directly<p>Almost at the same time, across the pond, there was another environmental hitjob.<p>
Channel 4 in the UK has been running this:<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKUVmLW8Nk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKUVmLW8Nk<p>
I think we could use a good dosage of grist debunking.<p>
_<p>
Gotta love it, it features our good friend Patrick Moore.</p></p></p></a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:58:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Actually<p>This Youtube seems to be the more dominant broadcast of it.<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk<br>
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				<p><strong>Actually<p>This Youtube seems to be the more dominant broadcast of it.<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&amp;v=u6IPHmJWmDk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&amp;v ...</a></br></a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by wiscidea</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:03:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>organization of the NYT &quot;editorial&quot;</strong></p><p>Journalists are taught to put their most important information near the top of the article because the average person rarely makes it all the way to the end of any substanital piece of writing.</p><p>
Toward the top...</p><p>
"I don't want to pick on Al Gore," Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. "But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data."</p><p>
At the bottom...</p><p>
"On balance, he did quite well -- a credible and entertaining job on a difficult subject," Dr. Oppenheimer said. "For that, he deserves a lot of credit. If you rake him over the coals, you're going to find people who disagree. But in terms of the big picture, he got it right."</p><p>
It is clear that Broad intended to smear Al Gore just enough to encourage the right wing to continue wallowing in a state of denial. The article does not leave the impression that Gore might have exagerated his claims a bit, which the "evidence" suggests, but that Al Gore is absolutely wrong about global climate change... so we are all supposed to stop worrying.

<p>Forward!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>organization of the NYT &quot;editorial&quot;</strong></p><p>Journalists are taught to put their most important information near the top of the article because the average person rarely makes it all the way to the end of any substanital piece of writing.</p><p>
Toward the top...</p><p>
"I don't want to pick on Al Gore," Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. "But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data."</p><p>
At the bottom...</p><p>
"On balance, he did quite well -- a credible and entertaining job on a difficult subject," Dr. Oppenheimer said. "For that, he deserves a lot of credit. If you rake him over the coals, you're going to find people who disagree. But in terms of the big picture, he got it right."</p><p>
It is clear that Broad intended to smear Al Gore just enough to encourage the right wing to continue wallowing in a state of denial. The article does not leave the impression that Gore might have exagerated his claims a bit, which the "evidence" suggests, but that Al Gore is absolutely wrong about global climate change... so we are all supposed to stop worrying.

<p>Forward!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Benny Big Eye</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:06:39 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The University of Colorado Media Duo<p>Something must be wrong at the University of Colorado....They haven't yet put up the link to media faves Pielke/Vranes getting into the New York Times.<p>
<a href="http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/outreach/news.html" rel="nofollow">http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/outreach/news.html<p>
Hmmmmmm..... 

<p>Benny Big Eye</p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>The University of Colorado Media Duo<p>Something must be wrong at the University of Colorado....They haven't yet put up the link to media faves Pielke/Vranes getting into the New York Times.<p>
<a href="http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/outreach/news.html" rel="nofollow">http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/outreach/news.html<p>
Hmmmmmm..... 

<p>Benny Big Eye</p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:47:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Oh nm<p>Looks like you guys picked that up over here<br>
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/3/12/152747/171" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/3/12/152747/171<br>
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				<p><strong>Oh nm<p>Looks like you guys picked that up over here<br>
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/3/12/152747/171" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/3/12/152747/171<br>
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