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            <title>Comment #1 by GreyFlcn</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-on-climate-change-and-national-security/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:06:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>All the more reason</strong></p><p>All the more reason to proliferate Nuclear reactors around the world.</p><p>
That way Global Warming is no longer our top threat.</p><p>
Problem solved :P</p>
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				<p><strong>All the more reason</strong></p><p>All the more reason to proliferate Nuclear reactors around the world.</p><p>
That way Global Warming is no longer our top threat.</p><p>
Problem solved :P</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:25:25 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>As said in the other thread<p>The easy answer to Nuclear? &nbsp;Geothermal.<p>
Specifically Binary "Hot Dry Rock" Geothermal, supported by superpowered iron electric drilling motors.<p>
<a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=17236" rel="nofollow">http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=1723 ...<br>
<a href="http://www.calenergy.com/html/aboutus4.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.calenergy.com/html/aboutus4.asp<br>
<a href="http://www.rasertech.com/media/movies/html/well_to_wheels.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rasertech.com/media/movies/html/well_to_wheels ...<br>
<a href="http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/?p=1206" rel="nofollow">http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/?p=1206<p>
Geothermal gets hardly a drop of government subsidy. <br>
(<a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&amp;storyid=2007-03-13T181100Z_01_N13459469_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-GEOTHERMAL-FUNDING.xml" rel="nofollow">Infact Bush wanted it to get $0 dollars in R&amp;D subsidy)<p>
And yet it can outcompete Nuclear on both cost, and building speed.<p>
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<a href="http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1148" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1148<br>
<a href="http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1212" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1212<br>
<a href="http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1088" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1088<br>
<a href="http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/partner/story?id=48563" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/partner/story?id ...<br>
<a href="http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=47266" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=47 ...<p>
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For everything else, there's solar panels, and solar thermal concentrators.<p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXjEBWBBdug&amp;eurl=" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXjEBWBBdug&amp;eurl=</a></p></p></p></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></p></p></p></a></br></p></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>As said in the other thread<p>The easy answer to Nuclear? &nbsp;Geothermal.<p>
Specifically Binary "Hot Dry Rock" Geothermal, supported by superpowered iron electric drilling motors.<p>
<a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=17236" rel="nofollow">http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=1723 ...<br>
<a href="http://www.calenergy.com/html/aboutus4.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.calenergy.com/html/aboutus4.asp<br>
<a href="http://www.rasertech.com/media/movies/html/well_to_wheels.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rasertech.com/media/movies/html/well_to_wheels ...<br>
<a href="http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/?p=1206" rel="nofollow">http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/?p=1206<p>
Geothermal gets hardly a drop of government subsidy. <br>
(<a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&amp;storyid=2007-03-13T181100Z_01_N13459469_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-GEOTHERMAL-FUNDING.xml" rel="nofollow">Infact Bush wanted it to get $0 dollars in R&amp;D subsidy)<p>
And yet it can outcompete Nuclear on both cost, and building speed.<p>
_<p>
<a href="http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1148" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1148<br>
<a href="http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1212" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1212<br>
<a href="http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1088" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegreentech.com/node/1088<br>
<a href="http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/partner/story?id=48563" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/partner/story?id ...<br>
<a href="http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=47266" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=47 ...<p>
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For everything else, there's solar panels, and solar thermal concentrators.<p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXjEBWBBdug&amp;eurl=" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXjEBWBBdug&amp;eurl=</a></p></p></p></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></p></p></p></a></br></p></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by tico89</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/more-on-climate-change-and-national-security/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:30:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The cause</strong></p><p>More and more experts are saying global warming is as grave a threat to our national security (PDF) as terrorism and nuclear proliferation.</p><p>
It sounds more like global warming will be a catalyst for grave threats like terrorism and nuclear proliferation. After all, it's not global warming itself that's a threat (a few degrees warmer? Air conditioning can deal with that). It's what it causes, especially among those who can't manage a move to the tundra once it becomes a tropical paradise, and famine, drought and floods spread through their own lands.

<p>If I share initials with 'Global Warming', is that a sign?</p></p>
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				<p><strong>The cause</strong></p><p>More and more experts are saying global warming is as grave a threat to our national security (PDF) as terrorism and nuclear proliferation.</p><p>
It sounds more like global warming will be a catalyst for grave threats like terrorism and nuclear proliferation. After all, it's not global warming itself that's a threat (a few degrees warmer? Air conditioning can deal with that). It's what it causes, especially among those who can't manage a move to the tundra once it becomes a tropical paradise, and famine, drought and floods spread through their own lands.

<p>If I share initials with 'Global Warming', is that a sign?</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Kristina & Jason Makansi</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:56:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>global warming and national security</strong></p><p>It isn't just global warming that is a threat to national security, it is our continued dependence on foreign sources of fuel. So, while some see increased use of LNG as a positive for reducing greenhouse gases, it is worth bearing in mind that much of the LNG in the world sits in the same geopolitical hot spots as oil. For a no-holds-barred look at topics like lengthening supply lines and national security, take a look at the new book: Lights Out-The Electricity Crisis, the Global Economy, and What It Means To You.</p>
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				<p><strong>global warming and national security</strong></p><p>It isn't just global warming that is a threat to national security, it is our continued dependence on foreign sources of fuel. So, while some see increased use of LNG as a positive for reducing greenhouse gases, it is worth bearing in mind that much of the LNG in the world sits in the same geopolitical hot spots as oil. For a no-holds-barred look at topics like lengthening supply lines and national security, take a look at the new book: Lights Out-The Electricity Crisis, the Global Economy, and What It Means To You.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:41:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Who Asked?<p><br>
Nice "answer to nuclear".<p>
But no one asked.<p>
Most people would be happy to have a nuclear grid producing 80% of our electricity just like France.

<p>John Bailo, The "Denier Guy"<br>
<a href="http://you-read-it-here-first.com" rel="nofollow">You Read It Here First</a></br></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Who Asked?<p><br>
Nice "answer to nuclear".<p>
But no one asked.<p>
Most people would be happy to have a nuclear grid producing 80% of our electricity just like France.

<p>John Bailo, The "Denier Guy"<br>
<a href="http://you-read-it-here-first.com" rel="nofollow">You Read It Here First</a></br></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:55:28 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Most people would be happy eh?<p>Is that why it makes national news when an Iranian tech guy merely downloads a nuclear training manual.<br>
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267641,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267641,00.html<p>
Besides which, I'm sure the last thing you'll hear from people on FreeRepublic etc. is "Lets be like the French"</p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Most people would be happy eh?<p>Is that why it makes national news when an Iranian tech guy merely downloads a nuclear training manual.<br>
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267641,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267641,00.html<p>
Besides which, I'm sure the last thing you'll hear from people on FreeRepublic etc. is "Lets be like the French"</p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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