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            <title>Comment #1 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:45:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Maybe, but...</strong></p><p>...there have been unconfirmed sightings of Monk Seals on Haiti and Jamaica (though there is some debate if they are Monk Seals or Hooded Seals).</p><p>
Think of it like Stellar's Sea Cow. &nbsp;It's probably extinct, but there's a very slim chance that it's not.</p>
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				<p><strong>Maybe, but...</strong></p><p>...there have been unconfirmed sightings of Monk Seals on Haiti and Jamaica (though there is some debate if they are Monk Seals or Hooded Seals).</p><p>
Think of it like Stellar's Sea Cow. &nbsp;It's probably extinct, but there's a very slim chance that it's not.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:56:25 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>none left; affluence<p>The IUCN was ready to call this poor critter extinct back in 1996; and if the last confirmed sighting was in the mid-1950s, then today's news from the US agency is a few steps beyond where we are with, say, the Yangtze river dolphin or Baiji, which a Swiss worker in China who had been looking for it for some time declared last winter to be extinct.<p>
The Monachus-Guardian page has a picture of a Caribbean monk seal from 1910, lying beside his/her pool in a zoo in New York:<p>
<a href="http://www.monachus-guardian.org/factfiles/carib01.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.monachus-guardian.org/factfiles/carib01.htm.<p>
As for the Steller's sea cow, their last known range, along the Pacific shore of Siberia, is indeed very remote. &nbsp;But they were very large animals, and usually human observers did not have a hard time spotting them (unfortunately for the sea cows!). &nbsp;They disappeared in the 18th century; so if one were to be discovered today, that would be an even more amazing reappearance than that of the Ivory-billed woodpecker.<p>
In connexion with the Caribbean monk seal, I was interested to read about their Mediterranean cousin, who appears in ancient Greek art and literature. &nbsp;Cf. the fascinating little story that Menelaus tells to Telemachus, in Odyssey 4, about how he caught Proteus the Old Man of the Sea, when Proteus had come up onto a beach to take a nap among his beloved seals.<p>
In the Mediterranean and the Caribbean, as well as around the Hawaiian Islands, monk seals seem always to have been hunted. &nbsp;But nowadays, presumably it is habitat loss that is the biggest threat to them. &nbsp;And that habitat loss seems driven by ever larger beachfront developments, for the sake of tourism, and preferred residential locations for newly affluent people.<p>
It should not surprise us that many kinds of animals, who used to rely on those beaches, are being severely pressured, such as certain shore birds, and sea turtles.</p></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>none left; affluence<p>The IUCN was ready to call this poor critter extinct back in 1996; and if the last confirmed sighting was in the mid-1950s, then today's news from the US agency is a few steps beyond where we are with, say, the Yangtze river dolphin or Baiji, which a Swiss worker in China who had been looking for it for some time declared last winter to be extinct.<p>
The Monachus-Guardian page has a picture of a Caribbean monk seal from 1910, lying beside his/her pool in a zoo in New York:<p>
<a href="http://www.monachus-guardian.org/factfiles/carib01.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.monachus-guardian.org/factfiles/carib01.htm.<p>
As for the Steller's sea cow, their last known range, along the Pacific shore of Siberia, is indeed very remote. &nbsp;But they were very large animals, and usually human observers did not have a hard time spotting them (unfortunately for the sea cows!). &nbsp;They disappeared in the 18th century; so if one were to be discovered today, that would be an even more amazing reappearance than that of the Ivory-billed woodpecker.<p>
In connexion with the Caribbean monk seal, I was interested to read about their Mediterranean cousin, who appears in ancient Greek art and literature. &nbsp;Cf. the fascinating little story that Menelaus tells to Telemachus, in Odyssey 4, about how he caught Proteus the Old Man of the Sea, when Proteus had come up onto a beach to take a nap among his beloved seals.<p>
In the Mediterranean and the Caribbean, as well as around the Hawaiian Islands, monk seals seem always to have been hunted. &nbsp;But nowadays, presumably it is habitat loss that is the biggest threat to them. &nbsp;And that habitat loss seems driven by ever larger beachfront developments, for the sake of tourism, and preferred residential locations for newly affluent people.<p>
It should not surprise us that many kinds of animals, who used to rely on those beaches, are being severely pressured, such as certain shore birds, and sea turtles.</p></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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