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            <title>Comment #1 by sideshow1979</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:16:12 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Oh yeah</strong></p><p>And that meat will come to the US, for sure. &nbsp;The industry salivates at the prospect of growing grain in Brazil and shipping it to the Brazilian coast where they will build enormous CAFOs and packinghouses, which will no doubt be USDA inspected. &nbsp;Tyson's already trying to pay USDA to put inspectors in Chinese poultry plants. &nbsp;Then you can ship cut meat to the US, Mexico, etc.</p><p>
All they really need to do is improve Brazil's infrastructure to get grain from the interior regions to the coast. &nbsp;I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyson et al get involved in financing road construction.</p>
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				<p><strong>Oh yeah</strong></p><p>And that meat will come to the US, for sure. &nbsp;The industry salivates at the prospect of growing grain in Brazil and shipping it to the Brazilian coast where they will build enormous CAFOs and packinghouses, which will no doubt be USDA inspected. &nbsp;Tyson's already trying to pay USDA to put inspectors in Chinese poultry plants. &nbsp;Then you can ship cut meat to the US, Mexico, etc.</p><p>
All they really need to do is improve Brazil's infrastructure to get grain from the interior regions to the coast. &nbsp;I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyson et al get involved in financing road construction.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Jason D Scorse</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:25:18 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>good post</strong></p><p>the industrial meat industry is a cancer on the planet that must ultimately be stopped either through sane policy mandating that meat producers pay the real cost of their resources and waste or through consumers turning away from their toxic products- or better yet, both.

<p>We need to focus on the root causes of problems. </p></p>
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				<p><strong>good post</strong></p><p>the industrial meat industry is a cancer on the planet that must ultimately be stopped either through sane policy mandating that meat producers pay the real cost of their resources and waste or through consumers turning away from their toxic products- or better yet, both.

<p>We need to focus on the root causes of problems. </p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:10:35 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>More rural slavery in Brazil?<p>You can count on the conditions surrounding Tyson meat packing plants to reproduce the debt-slavery that is associated with Brazil's sugar industry. <p>
The nasty part about "free trade" is that the conditions don't look all that free when you look at the lives of the people working the jobs involved. <p>
I have a strange idea. Lets raise meat on small farms where the animal numbers don't exceed the ability of the land to absorb their waste as fertilizer. Then we can process said meat at small local markets. <p>
We could save huge amounts of fuel that is now used to ship chickens, feed and fertilizer around the world. Sure, Mr. Tyson would no longer get his nickel for every chicken eaten but screw him anyway. His vision sucks.

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>More rural slavery in Brazil?<p>You can count on the conditions surrounding Tyson meat packing plants to reproduce the debt-slavery that is associated with Brazil's sugar industry. <p>
The nasty part about "free trade" is that the conditions don't look all that free when you look at the lives of the people working the jobs involved. <p>
I have a strange idea. Lets raise meat on small farms where the animal numbers don't exceed the ability of the land to absorb their waste as fertilizer. Then we can process said meat at small local markets. <p>
We could save huge amounts of fuel that is now used to ship chickens, feed and fertilizer around the world. Sure, Mr. Tyson would no longer get his nickel for every chicken eaten but screw him anyway. His vision sucks.

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by weevil</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:03:28 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>how to feed the world...</strong></p><p>just wondering how the limited supply on arable land on planet earth would provide enough food for said planet's population without utilizing the latest technology with regards to raising animals for human consumption? its a great idea that everyone be self sufficient, but how would someone living in manhattan possibly raise their own food? its very easy for us to have this discussion since the system used now has our hunger sated. </p>
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				<p><strong>how to feed the world...</strong></p><p>just wondering how the limited supply on arable land on planet earth would provide enough food for said planet's population without utilizing the latest technology with regards to raising animals for human consumption? its a great idea that everyone be self sufficient, but how would someone living in manhattan possibly raise their own food? its very easy for us to have this discussion since the system used now has our hunger sated. </p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by amc89</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:42:30 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A serious problem that needs more action</strong></p><p>Given that animal products do not currently reflect their true costs to the environment and society, NGO's in both developed and "transitional" nations should make it a priority to pressure their governments to stop the direct and indirect subsidies to the meat industry (such as subsidies for the growing of animal feed crops like corn and soy) and should actively encourage citizens to eat further down the food chain. There is some movement in this direction. &nbsp;The Brazilian NGO Consumer Defence Institute (IDEC) has launched a campaign to encourage supermarkets to track beef origins and to encourage consumers to reduce beef consumption. Governmental nutrition education campaigns also have a large potential to impact consumer demand for animal products. In America, we eat 1.6 times as much protein as we really need and this is causing all kinds of public health problems. Clearly we need to change our diets to include fewer animal products and more whole grains, legumes, nuts fruits and vegetables, which can in most situations be far more efficiently grown than animal products. If retailer and consumer preferences can be significantly altered, there may be hope for preserving the Amazon's remaining rainforests, preventing animal epidemics such as bird flu, reducing animal cruelty and slowing climate change since lower demand leads to lower prices for producers. &nbsp;Globally, the trend of increased meat consumption among newly developing countries must be reversed for public health and animal welfare reasons as well as environmental, climate and economic reasons. Environmental groups need to make this a priority! &nbsp;And we in the western world can set an example by examining the sustainability of our own diets.</p>
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				<p><strong>A serious problem that needs more action</strong></p><p>Given that animal products do not currently reflect their true costs to the environment and society, NGO's in both developed and "transitional" nations should make it a priority to pressure their governments to stop the direct and indirect subsidies to the meat industry (such as subsidies for the growing of animal feed crops like corn and soy) and should actively encourage citizens to eat further down the food chain. There is some movement in this direction. &nbsp;The Brazilian NGO Consumer Defence Institute (IDEC) has launched a campaign to encourage supermarkets to track beef origins and to encourage consumers to reduce beef consumption. Governmental nutrition education campaigns also have a large potential to impact consumer demand for animal products. In America, we eat 1.6 times as much protein as we really need and this is causing all kinds of public health problems. Clearly we need to change our diets to include fewer animal products and more whole grains, legumes, nuts fruits and vegetables, which can in most situations be far more efficiently grown than animal products. If retailer and consumer preferences can be significantly altered, there may be hope for preserving the Amazon's remaining rainforests, preventing animal epidemics such as bird flu, reducing animal cruelty and slowing climate change since lower demand leads to lower prices for producers. &nbsp;Globally, the trend of increased meat consumption among newly developing countries must be reversed for public health and animal welfare reasons as well as environmental, climate and economic reasons. Environmental groups need to make this a priority! &nbsp;And we in the western world can set an example by examining the sustainability of our own diets.</p>
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