<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Thoughts on the GISS temperature adjustment]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Andrew Dessler http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/ Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:23:25 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/1 Here's a pretty good article in the NYT about this

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]]> Here's a pretty good article in the NYT about this

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]]> Comment #2 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/ Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:03:23 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/2 In short

In short,

For the US Mainland only:
1998 lowered a couple hundreths of a degree below 1934.
http://greyfalcon.net/ustemps.png

For the Entire Globle:
1998 lowered a few thousands of a degree, and nothing really changed.
http://greyfalcon.net/globaltemps.png

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A more indepth by James Hansen who worked on the study:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/distro_LightUpstairs_70810. ...





]]> In short

In short,

For the US Mainland only:
1998 lowered a couple hundreths of a degree below 1934.
http://greyfalcon.net/ustemps.png

For the Entire Globle:
1998 lowered a few thousands of a degree, and nothing really changed.
http://greyfalcon.net/globaltemps.png

____

A more indepth by James Hansen who worked on the study:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/distro_LightUpstairs_70810. ...





]]> Comment #3 by plum http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/ Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:25:39 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/3 Snap!

...like string theory.

Think Lubos was reading that?

]]> Snap!

...like string theory.

Think Lubos was reading that?

]]> Comment #4 by Andrew Dessler http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/ Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:20:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/4 Bad form

GreyF-

I think Hansen's response is over-the-top.  It seems to me that McIntyre's actually a pretty reasonable and smart guy, and Hansen's obvious irritation with him does climate science no good.  Calling him a jester is not going to convince people to believe climate science --- in fact, I think it has the opposite effect.  Those people suspicious of climate science will conclude from his tone that Hansen has something to hide.  

As the old saying goes, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.  They should thank McIntyre for finding this error (which they did, although I perceive it was through gritted teeth) and encourage him to keep looking at the data.  If they do that sincerely, I think that by itself will convince a lot of people that our data are right ...

Thanks!

]]> Bad form

GreyF-

I think Hansen's response is over-the-top.  It seems to me that McIntyre's actually a pretty reasonable and smart guy, and Hansen's obvious irritation with him does climate science no good.  Calling him a jester is not going to convince people to believe climate science --- in fact, I think it has the opposite effect.  Those people suspicious of climate science will conclude from his tone that Hansen has something to hide.  

As the old saying goes, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.  They should thank McIntyre for finding this error (which they did, although I perceive it was through gritted teeth) and encourage him to keep looking at the data.  If they do that sincerely, I think that by itself will convince a lot of people that our data are right ...

Thanks!

]]> Comment #5 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/ Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:04:43 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/looking-over-our-shoulder/5 Yeah, I guess thats true

Yeah I guess thats true, thats why I normally just stick to the charts.

]]> Yeah, I guess thats true

Yeah I guess thats true, thats why I normally just stick to the charts.

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