<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for The song still has relevance today]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Nucbuddy http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:50:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/1 Nuclear-power reduces environmental radiation

Sarah van Schagen wrote: Radiation under ground


phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter12.html

When uranium is mined out of the ground to make nuclear fuel, it is no longer there as a source of radon emission. This is a point which has not been recognized until recently because the radon that percolates out of the ground originates largely within 1 meter of the surface; anything coming from much farther down will decay away before reaching the surface. Since the great majority of uranium mined comes from depths well below 1 meter, the radon emanating from it was always viewed as harmless. The fallacy of this reasoning is that it ignores erosion. As the ground erodes away at a rate of 1 meter every 22,000 years, any uranium in it will eventually approach the surface, spending its 22,000 years in the top meter, where it will presumably do great damage. The magnitude of this damage is calculated in the Chapter 12 Appendix, where it is shown that mining uranium to fuel one large nuclear power plant for one year will eventually save 420 lives! This completely overshadows all other health impacts of the nuclear industry, making it one of the greatest lifesaving enterprises of all time if one adopts a very long-term viewpoint.




]]> Nuclear-power reduces environmental radiation

Sarah van Schagen wrote: Radiation under ground


phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter12.html

When uranium is mined out of the ground to make nuclear fuel, it is no longer there as a source of radon emission. This is a point which has not been recognized until recently because the radon that percolates out of the ground originates largely within 1 meter of the surface; anything coming from much farther down will decay away before reaching the surface. Since the great majority of uranium mined comes from depths well below 1 meter, the radon emanating from it was always viewed as harmless. The fallacy of this reasoning is that it ignores erosion. As the ground erodes away at a rate of 1 meter every 22,000 years, any uranium in it will eventually approach the surface, spending its 22,000 years in the top meter, where it will presumably do great damage. The magnitude of this damage is calculated in the Chapter 12 Appendix, where it is shown that mining uranium to fuel one large nuclear power plant for one year will eventually save 420 lives! This completely overshadows all other health impacts of the nuclear industry, making it one of the greatest lifesaving enterprises of all time if one adopts a very long-term viewpoint.




]]> Comment #2 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:25:35 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/2 Nice post, Sarah

but that lyrics link gives my browser heartburn.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Nice post, Sarah

but that lyrics link gives my browser heartburn.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Comment #3 by SustainableGreen http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:37:41 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/3 Wow, I never knew

Hey, all:

Wow, after decades of hearing that song, I have never paid enough attention to it to recognize the lyrics.  And as much as I admired Marvin Gaye in years past, it never occurred to me to check.   Now I will have to find it to listen to it. Thanks for the lyrics...and the memory.  Good song for the occasion and sadly it seems to be timeless.

David
Sustainability For Life

Messages done with sustainable energy, with Wind and Sun!

]]> Wow, I never knew

Hey, all:

Wow, after decades of hearing that song, I have never paid enough attention to it to recognize the lyrics.  And as much as I admired Marvin Gaye in years past, it never occurred to me to check.   Now I will have to find it to listen to it. Thanks for the lyrics...and the memory.  Good song for the occasion and sadly it seems to be timeless.

David
Sustainability For Life

Messages done with sustainable energy, with Wind and Sun!

]]> Comment #4 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:32:06 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/4 I had mixed feelings...

I appreciated the efforts of the artists to get the worlds attention but having the event filtered by a corporation guaranteed that the really inflamatory bits got filtered while they showed us commercials for cars.

The concept that we can defeat global warming and have ALL the goodies we have now is just false. People will die, species will go extinct and nations will lie in ruins.

Ask an Australian....or a Pakistani.  The global shit has definately hit the fan.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> I had mixed feelings...

I appreciated the efforts of the artists to get the worlds attention but having the event filtered by a corporation guaranteed that the really inflamatory bits got filtered while they showed us commercials for cars.

The concept that we can defeat global warming and have ALL the goodies we have now is just false. People will die, species will go extinct and nations will lie in ruins.

Ask an Australian....or a Pakistani.  The global shit has definately hit the fan.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #5 by randino http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:54:33 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/5 All very true, BUT

you have to start where people are and that may not be a very smart place in our view. Live Earth used mass culture and mass media to move the ball down the field. This was not a reunion of Earth First! Yes, there was a good share of pimpin' for corporadoes and lots of green washing, but remember that the corporations just a few years ago did not want to touch this issue with a mile long pole. They are hustling like they always will, but they are being dragged along by the issue as well.

Social change is messy, contradictory and frequently involves alliances between people who just a short time ago, wouldn't have been caught dead in the same room with one another. I think we gained yardage with Live Earth. That's good enough for me.

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

]]> All very true, BUT

you have to start where people are and that may not be a very smart place in our view. Live Earth used mass culture and mass media to move the ball down the field. This was not a reunion of Earth First! Yes, there was a good share of pimpin' for corporadoes and lots of green washing, but remember that the corporations just a few years ago did not want to touch this issue with a mile long pole. They are hustling like they always will, but they are being dragged along by the issue as well.

Social change is messy, contradictory and frequently involves alliances between people who just a short time ago, wouldn't have been caught dead in the same room with one another. I think we gained yardage with Live Earth. That's good enough for me.

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

]]> Comment #6 by Whiskerfish http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:07:10 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/6 Preserve lawns, say police

Mercy me!

http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Off_Beat/0,,2- ...

The lengths USers will go to in order to preserve the great eco-destroying lawn are astonishing...

Whiskerfish

]]> Preserve lawns, say police

Mercy me!

http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Off_Beat/0,,2- ...

The lengths USers will go to in order to preserve the great eco-destroying lawn are astonishing...

Whiskerfish

]]> Comment #7 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:08:56 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/7 Back off Whiskerfish!

This is America and our lawns are a reflection of our ability to dominate our environment and those we pay to maintain it :p

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Back off Whiskerfish!

This is America and our lawns are a reflection of our ability to dominate our environment and those we pay to maintain it :p

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Comment #8 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/ Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:33:00 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/live-earth-mercy-mercy-me/8 2-way street


"Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality"

--What's Going On, M. Gaye

John Bailo
You Read It Here First



]]> 2-way street


"Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality"

--What's Going On, M. Gaye

John Bailo
You Read It Here First



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