<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Umbra on LED holiday lights]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by cicatrix http://www.grist.org/article/led1/ Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:26:14 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/led1/1 Throw them away???!!!???

I'm sorry, but I think it's really irresponsible to blithely advocate throwing functioning christmas tree lights in the rubbish.  I mean, donate them to an art centre, or a charitable organisation, make a table centrepiece to stop using candles, do something with them, find out if there's anywhere in your area that will recycle them, but shouldn't the landfill always be the last resort?  I'm disturbed to see Grist advocating the kind of disposable consumerism that is so poisonous to the ecological movement.

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I'm sorry, but I think it's really irresponsible to blithely advocate throwing functioning christmas tree lights in the rubbish.  I mean, donate them to an art centre, or a charitable organisation, make a table centrepiece to stop using candles, do something with them, find out if there's anywhere in your area that will recycle them, but shouldn't the landfill always be the last resort?  I'm disturbed to see Grist advocating the kind of disposable consumerism that is so poisonous to the ecological movement.

]]> Comment #2 by rglater http://www.grist.org/article/led1/ Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:01:29 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/led1/2 Moving Light Along

FreeCycle them!  www.freecycle.org for your local FreeCycle group.   If you are moving from minis to LEDs then help someone else move from big to mini.  People also use them for art projects, etc. The large ones are actually best for non-illuminating art projects.

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FreeCycle them!  www.freecycle.org for your local FreeCycle group.   If you are moving from minis to LEDs then help someone else move from big to mini.  People also use them for art projects, etc. The large ones are actually best for non-illuminating art projects.

]]> Comment #3 by dwolk http://www.grist.org/article/led1/ Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:59:19 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/led1/3 Discarding Xmas lights

Every package of mini-lights that Ive seen has borne the warning, "contains lead". I assume that it's in the solder or the insulation.  It gives one pause before tossing these in the trash.  Better to cannibalize an older string and keep replacing bulbs in a newer one as they burn out, then use the wire for something when all the bulbs are gone.

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Every package of mini-lights that Ive seen has borne the warning, "contains lead". I assume that it's in the solder or the insulation.  It gives one pause before tossing these in the trash.  Better to cannibalize an older string and keep replacing bulbs in a newer one as they burn out, then use the wire for something when all the bulbs are gone.

]]> Comment #4 by retrosurf http://www.grist.org/article/led1/ Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:05:30 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/led1/4 bad idea from the getgo

Replacing incandescents for LEDs for christmas
lights is wrong it at least 3 different ways.

First, the thing that kills most christmas lights
is the wiring, not the bulbs. After about 5 years,
the connections to the bulbs corrode or loosen,
and repair is impossible. Putting an LED that can
last 30,000 hours on a light string that is good
for at most 5 years is a waste.

Next, look at the waste stream generated by LED
based christmas lights. LEDs are made of
gallium arsenide (along with some copper, and
plastic, and maybe a little lead or tin). Light
bulbs are made of tungsten, glass, aluminum or
brass, and iron. I suspect that it is safer to
discard a light bulb than to discard an LED.

Finally, replacing working strings of bulbs with
another working string of bulbs encourages
consumer based wasted, as has been pointed out
by all the previous commenters.
















]]> bad idea from the getgo

Replacing incandescents for LEDs for christmas
lights is wrong it at least 3 different ways.

First, the thing that kills most christmas lights
is the wiring, not the bulbs. After about 5 years,
the connections to the bulbs corrode or loosen,
and repair is impossible. Putting an LED that can
last 30,000 hours on a light string that is good
for at most 5 years is a waste.

Next, look at the waste stream generated by LED
based christmas lights. LEDs are made of
gallium arsenide (along with some copper, and
plastic, and maybe a little lead or tin). Light
bulbs are made of tungsten, glass, aluminum or
brass, and iron. I suspect that it is safer to
discard a light bulb than to discard an LED.

Finally, replacing working strings of bulbs with
another working string of bulbs encourages
consumer based wasted, as has been pointed out
by all the previous commenters.
















]]> Comment #5 by gordonf http://www.grist.org/article/led1/ Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:37:30 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/led1/5 what to do with old Christmas lights

Move to British Columbia!! Here, BC Hydro offers rebate coupons towards the purchase of new l.e.d. lights for each string of old lights that you hand in. They do the same for those old, energy-inefficient halogen "torchiere" floor lamps.
Evolved, aren't they??

-Gordon Harris,
Campbell River, BC

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Move to British Columbia!! Here, BC Hydro offers rebate coupons towards the purchase of new l.e.d. lights for each string of old lights that you hand in. They do the same for those old, energy-inefficient halogen "torchiere" floor lamps.
Evolved, aren't they??

-Gordon Harris,
Campbell River, BC

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