<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for The fight is on]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by John McGrath http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/ Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:23:56 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/1 You're mistaken

An oversight:  A battle between silicon valley and the former constituents of Standard Oil is a battle between last century and the century before that.

Still rooting for the same people.

]]> You're mistaken

An oversight:  A battle between silicon valley and the former constituents of Standard Oil is a battle between last century and the century before that.

Still rooting for the same people.

]]> Comment #2 by gogogreenguy http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/ Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:23:19 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/2 Biohols in Silicon Valley

An interesting article in Wired this month on VC's in Silicon valley heavily funding the pro-oil CA tax.  Wired magazine (buy the print version) has an article from Venture Capitalist Vinod Khosla about this and his big bet investment into ethanol derived from all sorts of plants material (biohols).  Its online at wired.com come Oct 3rd.

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An interesting article in Wired this month on VC's in Silicon valley heavily funding the pro-oil CA tax.  Wired magazine (buy the print version) has an article from Venture Capitalist Vinod Khosla about this and his big bet investment into ethanol derived from all sorts of plants material (biohols).  Its online at wired.com come Oct 3rd.

]]> Comment #3 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/ Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:52:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/3 Open battle is joined

Finally it's out in the open.

Remember the 90s boom?  The Clinton years, hitech  internet productivity fueling investment and inovation.  The "new economy".

Remember telecommuting for one instance.  But instead of people working from home on the net and saving energy and traffic jams, their jobs were telecommuted to india and the philipines.  With Reagan Revolution tax breaks for exporting jobs.

Remember the promise of universal affordable wireless broadband internet replacing phones,cellphones (the new improved phone monopoly), TV, radio, cable, AOL and the stifling monopolies they rode in on.  All that promise of productivity was killed by bushwacker pandering to the old monopolists.  

Remember when the largest market capital company in the world, General Electric, was briefly surpassed by Cisco.  Now the biggest market cap trades off between exxonmob and GE.

Remember silicon valley powering the new economy and the bubble bursting as Greenspan met with then still candiate Bush during the disputed Florida fiasco.  The fed mysteriously raised rates at a very troubled time when standing pat would have seemed the wiser course.  Where was the inflation to justify that raise, it wasn't.

Now look at the fed standing pat in the face of inflation on every important economic front, supported by energy price rises, temporartily dipping from oil price manipulation for political ends.  Artificially boosting the dow and temporarily boosting consumer spending.

If you dispute that, look at the war.  The old guard is fearful.  If they have a democratic congress their precious oil wars are over, and a new boom begins.  A real boom.  The renewable energy, plugin electric vehicle boom is going to bury exxonmob and even GE.  So deep they won't get back up.

If renewable energy, distributed generation and storage, and universal wireless broadband over the power grid replaces all the old guard's favorite monopolies?  Where does the dow go?  As usual in an inovative boom the silicon valley powered Nasdaq will bury it.

Now that's an economic, social, political, and cultural war.  And the old guard is fighting people that run the new economy with fossilized corrupt boardroom and capital hill alchoholics.

Can venture capital power renewable energy like it did the internet boom, I think so.  With someone like Hillary trouncing the old monopolists from the whitehouse.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Open battle is joined

Finally it's out in the open.

Remember the 90s boom?  The Clinton years, hitech  internet productivity fueling investment and inovation.  The "new economy".

Remember telecommuting for one instance.  But instead of people working from home on the net and saving energy and traffic jams, their jobs were telecommuted to india and the philipines.  With Reagan Revolution tax breaks for exporting jobs.

Remember the promise of universal affordable wireless broadband internet replacing phones,cellphones (the new improved phone monopoly), TV, radio, cable, AOL and the stifling monopolies they rode in on.  All that promise of productivity was killed by bushwacker pandering to the old monopolists.  

Remember when the largest market capital company in the world, General Electric, was briefly surpassed by Cisco.  Now the biggest market cap trades off between exxonmob and GE.

Remember silicon valley powering the new economy and the bubble bursting as Greenspan met with then still candiate Bush during the disputed Florida fiasco.  The fed mysteriously raised rates at a very troubled time when standing pat would have seemed the wiser course.  Where was the inflation to justify that raise, it wasn't.

Now look at the fed standing pat in the face of inflation on every important economic front, supported by energy price rises, temporartily dipping from oil price manipulation for political ends.  Artificially boosting the dow and temporarily boosting consumer spending.

If you dispute that, look at the war.  The old guard is fearful.  If they have a democratic congress their precious oil wars are over, and a new boom begins.  A real boom.  The renewable energy, plugin electric vehicle boom is going to bury exxonmob and even GE.  So deep they won't get back up.

If renewable energy, distributed generation and storage, and universal wireless broadband over the power grid replaces all the old guard's favorite monopolies?  Where does the dow go?  As usual in an inovative boom the silicon valley powered Nasdaq will bury it.

Now that's an economic, social, political, and cultural war.  And the old guard is fighting people that run the new economy with fossilized corrupt boardroom and capital hill alchoholics.

Can venture capital power renewable energy like it did the internet boom, I think so.  With someone like Hillary trouncing the old monopolists from the whitehouse.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #4 by GreenEngineer http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/ Thu, 28 Sep 2006 03:13:11 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/4 R^2 on Prop 87

Robert Rapier, an renewable energy engineer who also happens to work for the oil industry, has a detailed analysis of Prop 87 on his blog.

Nutshell version: He thinks the supporters of prop 87 are lying through their teeth, especially with regards to the claim that prop 87 won't raise the price of oil (and thus gas).  But he supports Prop 87 precisely because he thinks that higher oil prices are a good thing.  I'm inclined to agree on both counts.

]]> R^2 on Prop 87

Robert Rapier, an renewable energy engineer who also happens to work for the oil industry, has a detailed analysis of Prop 87 on his blog.

Nutshell version: He thinks the supporters of prop 87 are lying through their teeth, especially with regards to the claim that prop 87 won't raise the price of oil (and thus gas).  But he supports Prop 87 precisely because he thinks that higher oil prices are a good thing.  I'm inclined to agree on both counts.

]]> Comment #5 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/ Thu, 28 Sep 2006 03:26:36 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/last-century-v-this-century/5 Vinod Khosla

Charlie Rose interviewed Vinod Khosla together with Richard Branson, a few days ago, right after Branson made the announcement of what he plans to do with the billions of dollars burning a hole in his pocket.  Khosla sounded really brilliant.  Not that I could tell you anything of what he said.  But I gather he and Branson are on the same page.

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> Vinod Khosla

Charlie Rose interviewed Vinod Khosla together with Richard Branson, a few days ago, right after Branson made the announcement of what he plans to do with the billions of dollars burning a hole in his pocket.  Khosla sounded really brilliant.  Not that I could tell you anything of what he said.  But I gather he and Branson are on the same page.

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

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