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            <title>Comment #1 by Catfish John</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:14:18 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Kyoto and Africa</strong></p><p>The argument seems sound, as you pointed out, in many respects, but I am loath to jump on any "help Africa" lines of speculation, since developed nations have long ignored the needs of Africa unless exploitable resources were up for grabs. The ongoing genocides in Congo and the Sudan, and the hopelessly inadequate assistance to Rwanda in their hours of need reflect just how interested in Africa the west is. </p><p>
Kyoto may benefit Africa indirectly, but I can't believe that any western interest wants to take the hard road to developing anything on a continent rife with instability, disease, and hunger, as that road requires expensive investments like education, health care, and other overhead expenses that we can't even adequately address within our own borders.</p><p>
There is a website, carbonfinance.org, that uses confounding language to explain all of this carbon-credit, emissions trading business. And it is business, in spite of the not-for-profit designation. I wish I understood it better than I do, and I truly hope we DO help Africa develop cleanly. But, if history is any indication...I'm not holding my breath for positive progress. <br>
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<p>Good things,

JDT</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Kyoto and Africa</strong></p><p>The argument seems sound, as you pointed out, in many respects, but I am loath to jump on any "help Africa" lines of speculation, since developed nations have long ignored the needs of Africa unless exploitable resources were up for grabs. The ongoing genocides in Congo and the Sudan, and the hopelessly inadequate assistance to Rwanda in their hours of need reflect just how interested in Africa the west is. </p><p>
Kyoto may benefit Africa indirectly, but I can't believe that any western interest wants to take the hard road to developing anything on a continent rife with instability, disease, and hunger, as that road requires expensive investments like education, health care, and other overhead expenses that we can't even adequately address within our own borders.</p><p>
There is a website, carbonfinance.org, that uses confounding language to explain all of this carbon-credit, emissions trading business. And it is business, in spite of the not-for-profit designation. I wish I understood it better than I do, and I truly hope we DO help Africa develop cleanly. But, if history is any indication...I'm not holding my breath for positive progress. <br>
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<p>Good things,

JDT</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Aimee Christensen</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 06:16:34 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Opportunities in Africa<p>Friends,<p>
The website you mention, <a href="http://www.carbonfinance.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbonfinance.org, is the website of the World Bank's Carbon Funds Business. &nbsp;As you may have read in today's Wall Street Journal, the World Bank has some $800 million in funds (from companies and governments) to purchase emission reduction "credits" from projects in developing countries and economies in transition. &nbsp;<p>
The exciting part in this is that the Bank and the governments and companies involved in these funds very much want projects developed in Africa and indeed in as many places as possible. &nbsp;So the World Bank is working hard on capacity building and reducing barriers to projects in Africa. &nbsp;I am hopeful about the potential for carbon finance in promoting sustainable development, indeed, it is why I got involved in climate change matters back in the mid-1990s when I was working to promote cleaner energy technologies in newly privatizing energy sectors in Latin America. &nbsp;The 'carbon' or climate benefits of these clean technologies should be recognized and are now, thanks to Kyoto and the global greenhouse gas emissions trading market.<p>
It's amazing what can happen when you put a price on carbon - the creativity on the ground is impressive.<br>


<p>Ever hopeful!</p></br></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Opportunities in Africa<p>Friends,<p>
The website you mention, <a href="http://www.carbonfinance.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbonfinance.org, is the website of the World Bank's Carbon Funds Business. &nbsp;As you may have read in today's Wall Street Journal, the World Bank has some $800 million in funds (from companies and governments) to purchase emission reduction "credits" from projects in developing countries and economies in transition. &nbsp;<p>
The exciting part in this is that the Bank and the governments and companies involved in these funds very much want projects developed in Africa and indeed in as many places as possible. &nbsp;So the World Bank is working hard on capacity building and reducing barriers to projects in Africa. &nbsp;I am hopeful about the potential for carbon finance in promoting sustainable development, indeed, it is why I got involved in climate change matters back in the mid-1990s when I was working to promote cleaner energy technologies in newly privatizing energy sectors in Latin America. &nbsp;The 'carbon' or climate benefits of these clean technologies should be recognized and are now, thanks to Kyoto and the global greenhouse gas emissions trading market.<p>
It's amazing what can happen when you put a price on carbon - the creativity on the ground is impressive.<br>


<p>Ever hopeful!</p></br></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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