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            <title>Comment #1 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:11:01 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Okay, but what specifically...</strong></p><p>...gives ya any indication that he will do it?</p><p>
That video is back in February, and some sections of the wall have already been constructed, and the funding has been approved for the other sections.</p><p>
Has he said anything 'bout use of executive order to halt it?</p>
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				<p><strong>Okay, but what specifically...</strong></p><p>...gives ya any indication that he will do it?</p><p>
That video is back in February, and some sections of the wall have already been constructed, and the funding has been approved for the other sections.</p><p>
Has he said anything 'bout use of executive order to halt it?</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:15:59 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>No Problemo</strong></p><p><br>
The immigration rate from Mexico to the US dropped to near zero starting in 2006.</p><p>
The birth rate among Mexicans plunged from 6 to 2 in recent years.</p><p>
That means the wall serves us better to keep our Mexican brothers in, not out, of the US. </br></p>
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				<p><strong>No Problemo</strong></p><p><br>
The immigration rate from Mexico to the US dropped to near zero starting in 2006.</p><p>
The birth rate among Mexicans plunged from 6 to 2 in recent years.</p><p>
That means the wall serves us better to keep our Mexican brothers in, not out, of the US. </br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Storm Dragon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:39:47 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Encouraging words, now show me deeds</strong></p><p>It is most heartening to hear that Obama intends to do the right thing with regard to the border fence. &nbsp;Now, we just have to lean on him, (and our representatives in Congress), to make sure the job gets done.

<p>Let the jaguars return!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Encouraging words, now show me deeds</strong></p><p>It is most heartening to hear that Obama intends to do the right thing with regard to the border fence. &nbsp;Now, we just have to lean on him, (and our representatives in Congress), to make sure the job gets done.

<p>Let the jaguars return!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:34:18 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>With the economic &quot;slowdown&quot;<p>I know a few immigrants who are now out of work and considering heading back to Mexico. No work there either but cost of living is lower. There is also less incentive to cross from Mexico if there is no work to be found. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>With the economic &quot;slowdown&quot;<p>I know a few immigrants who are now out of work and considering heading back to Mexico. No work there either but cost of living is lower. There is also less incentive to cross from Mexico if there is no work to be found. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:49:19 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Slowdown</strong></p><p>One way to slow the border wall down? &nbsp;Publicize the illegal immigrant labor that bush crony contractors are using to build it, and of course the typical shoddy construction and corruption involved in bush contracting on america.</p><p>
You can bet with 99% certainty that this is the case with any contracting deal oringinated in the worst, most corrupt administration in US history.</p><p>
The claims that it was actually built might even be faked. &nbsp;Has anyone checked to verify that any of the work has been completed?

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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				<p><strong>Slowdown</strong></p><p>One way to slow the border wall down? &nbsp;Publicize the illegal immigrant labor that bush crony contractors are using to build it, and of course the typical shoddy construction and corruption involved in bush contracting on america.</p><p>
You can bet with 99% certainty that this is the case with any contracting deal oringinated in the worst, most corrupt administration in US history.</p><p>
The claims that it was actually built might even be faked. &nbsp;Has anyone checked to verify that any of the work has been completed?

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Sam Wells</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/jaguars-for-change/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:20:53 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Border Wall</strong></p><p>Certain sections of the border wall in the Rio Valley do seem to be under construction. One section in Hidalgo County was actually a good idea because of their problems with the levee system. The parts that are most controversial are in Cameron County, which has those remaining populations of wild cats. </p><p>
Chances are that the December 31 deadline will run out the clock and much will not be re-authorized to complete the walling projects. Three sections have already been taken off the table. Nobody here likes the border walls, including the Fish &amp; Wildlife Service. Chertoff has proven that he is a mad fool for pursuing this goals despite Congress telling him to work with the locals. Us locals lost standing on one court case but have filed another - we'll see.

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Border Wall</strong></p><p>Certain sections of the border wall in the Rio Valley do seem to be under construction. One section in Hidalgo County was actually a good idea because of their problems with the levee system. The parts that are most controversial are in Cameron County, which has those remaining populations of wild cats. </p><p>
Chances are that the December 31 deadline will run out the clock and much will not be re-authorized to complete the walling projects. Three sections have already been taken off the table. Nobody here likes the border walls, including the Fish &amp; Wildlife Service. Chertoff has proven that he is a mad fool for pursuing this goals despite Congress telling him to work with the locals. Us locals lost standing on one court case but have filed another - we'll see.

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:41:53 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Good news Sam</strong></p><p>That's a relief. Thanks. &nbsp;</p><p>
Concentration on tax related documentation compliance would make sure those who are working here are allowed to legally. &nbsp;Make it legal for immigrants to work where they are needed. &nbsp;At fair wages and conditions and with proper tax collection.</p><p>
Don't prosecute employers the first or second offense, do spot checks and give people a chance to get legal. &nbsp;If present happy employers and employees who might not be documented were brought into the system it would be a much better mode of government oversight.</p><p>
Productive employment situations would be documented, without penalty, and no fence would be necessary.</p><p>
If government is worried about terrorists or smugglers they can use electronics. &nbsp;Deployed competently no one could sneak through without being noticed, including jaguars. &nbsp;Get some nature photographers to help out, they set up cameras to view the most elusive creatures.</p><p>
But once again, discourage illegal travel by encouraging legal work permits. &nbsp;The permits could then be established with reasonable limits to prevent sudden labor market disruptions. &nbsp;If it is cutting the average local pay rate by say over 10% per year, cut back on new permits.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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				<p><strong>Good news Sam</strong></p><p>That's a relief. Thanks. &nbsp;</p><p>
Concentration on tax related documentation compliance would make sure those who are working here are allowed to legally. &nbsp;Make it legal for immigrants to work where they are needed. &nbsp;At fair wages and conditions and with proper tax collection.</p><p>
Don't prosecute employers the first or second offense, do spot checks and give people a chance to get legal. &nbsp;If present happy employers and employees who might not be documented were brought into the system it would be a much better mode of government oversight.</p><p>
Productive employment situations would be documented, without penalty, and no fence would be necessary.</p><p>
If government is worried about terrorists or smugglers they can use electronics. &nbsp;Deployed competently no one could sneak through without being noticed, including jaguars. &nbsp;Get some nature photographers to help out, they set up cameras to view the most elusive creatures.</p><p>
But once again, discourage illegal travel by encouraging legal work permits. &nbsp;The permits could then be established with reasonable limits to prevent sudden labor market disruptions. &nbsp;If it is cutting the average local pay rate by say over 10% per year, cut back on new permits.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Wolverine</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:42:22 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Election Promises</strong></p><p>Let's hope Obama keeps this promise and breaks the ones about attacking Pakistan, making a surge in Afganistan, and increasing the size of the U.S. military. &nbsp;Unfortunately, I expect it to be the other way around.</p>
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				<p><strong>Election Promises</strong></p><p>Let's hope Obama keeps this promise and breaks the ones about attacking Pakistan, making a surge in Afganistan, and increasing the size of the U.S. military. &nbsp;Unfortunately, I expect it to be the other way around.</p>
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