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            <title>Comment #1 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:14:44 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;ladies&quot;?!</strong></p><p>It just ain't true, sister, that all of us who get blushy behind our fans at the sight of an underwear model hard at work are "ladies," 'fya know what I mean.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!  So are fish!  So are other sentient animals!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>&quot;ladies&quot;?!</strong></p><p>It just ain't true, sister, that all of us who get blushy behind our fans at the sight of an underwear model hard at work are "ladies," 'fya know what I mean.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!  So are fish!  So are other sentient animals!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:52:14 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Wood is good</strong></p><p>It stores carbon too! &nbsp;Hehey.

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				<p><strong>Wood is good</strong></p><p>It stores carbon too! &nbsp;Hehey.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Ashley Braun</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:53:02 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ship shape</strong></p><p>Why does it seem like nearly all of the eco-lingerie lines are based out of Britain? Shipping green knickers across the Atlantic nicks the eco-label in the butt bud.</p>
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				<p><strong>Ship shape</strong></p><p>Why does it seem like nearly all of the eco-lingerie lines are based out of Britain? Shipping green knickers across the Atlantic nicks the eco-label in the butt bud.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:50:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Why England</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;My friend who is releasing her new line of eco-shoes is doing so in England because people there care more about such things. &nbsp;The American market is minuscule. &nbsp;Go figure.</p><p>
patrick in Beijing</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Why England</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;My friend who is releasing her new line of eco-shoes is doing so in England because people there care more about such things. &nbsp;The American market is minuscule. &nbsp;Go figure.</p><p>
patrick in Beijing</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Icelander</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:46:35 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Clicked on the link...</strong></p><p>$50 (26&#163;) for ONE pair of boxers?!? They might be great underwear, but unless they make me look like that model I'll stick with my good ol' Old Navy cotton boxers, thankyouverymuch.</p><p>
These aren't going to make a dent until your average Joe Sixpack can run down to Wal*Mart and pick up ten for $10.</p>
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				<p><strong>Clicked on the link...</strong></p><p>$50 (26&#163;) for ONE pair of boxers?!? They might be great underwear, but unless they make me look like that model I'll stick with my good ol' Old Navy cotton boxers, thankyouverymuch.</p><p>
These aren't going to make a dent until your average Joe Sixpack can run down to Wal*Mart and pick up ten for $10.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by thadadkins</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:12:18 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I hate to be the raincloud, but...</strong></p><p>Pine plantation monocultures?!?!</p>
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				<p><strong>I hate to be the raincloud, but...</strong></p><p>Pine plantation monocultures?!?!</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by erb</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:31:36 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I hate to be a wet blanket to the raincloud...</strong></p><p>Would you prefer clearcutting old growth? &nbsp;Until we figure out a way to make fiber from air, we have to cut trees down. &nbsp;Don't get me wrong, I don't like tree plantations, and I would rather see individual tree selection leading to healthier forests, but it's better than cutting down old growth forest.</p>
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				<p><strong>I hate to be a wet blanket to the raincloud...</strong></p><p>Would you prefer clearcutting old growth? &nbsp;Until we figure out a way to make fiber from air, we have to cut trees down. &nbsp;Don't get me wrong, I don't like tree plantations, and I would rather see individual tree selection leading to healthier forests, but it's better than cutting down old growth forest.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:56:16 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Don't get your knickers in a twist over this one<p>I note that the fabric is manufactured in France. That is appropriate, because rayon fiber -- originally marketed as "artificial silk" -- was first invented (by one Hilaire de Chardonnet) and then developed in that country in the 1880s and 1890s. (No, I did not transpose the "8" and the "9".) It was the original manufactured fiber.<p>
Although most people consider rayon artificial, it is actually made from cellulose, unlike sythetic fibers made from petro-chemicals.<p>
However, the mere fact that rayon is derived from trees does not necessarily make it "eco-friendly". As explained in <a href="http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/5000/5538.html" rel="nofollow">this article:<p>
Although rayon is made from wood pulp, a relatively inexpensive and renewable resource, processing requires high water and energy use, and has contributed to air and water pollution.<p>
(Are they not confusing it with ethanol?)<p>
I'm not a chemist, but I assume that the French manufacturer, g=9.8, uses a different process than <a href="http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Cellulose/Rayon-Fiber.htm" rel="nofollow">one of the traditional ones used to make rayon.<p>
The <a href="http://www.realbusiness.co.uk/daily-blog/4950651/ecoentrepreneur-making-ethical-underwear-from-wood.thtml" rel="nofollow">source article asks, "What will they think of next?"<p>
Hmmm. Writing medium made from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus" rel="nofollow">the pith of a wetland sedge?

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></a></p></a></p></a></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Don't get your knickers in a twist over this one<p>I note that the fabric is manufactured in France. That is appropriate, because rayon fiber -- originally marketed as "artificial silk" -- was first invented (by one Hilaire de Chardonnet) and then developed in that country in the 1880s and 1890s. (No, I did not transpose the "8" and the "9".) It was the original manufactured fiber.<p>
Although most people consider rayon artificial, it is actually made from cellulose, unlike sythetic fibers made from petro-chemicals.<p>
However, the mere fact that rayon is derived from trees does not necessarily make it "eco-friendly". As explained in <a href="http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/5000/5538.html" rel="nofollow">this article:<p>
Although rayon is made from wood pulp, a relatively inexpensive and renewable resource, processing requires high water and energy use, and has contributed to air and water pollution.<p>
(Are they not confusing it with ethanol?)<p>
I'm not a chemist, but I assume that the French manufacturer, g=9.8, uses a different process than <a href="http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Cellulose/Rayon-Fiber.htm" rel="nofollow">one of the traditional ones used to make rayon.<p>
The <a href="http://www.realbusiness.co.uk/daily-blog/4950651/ecoentrepreneur-making-ethical-underwear-from-wood.thtml" rel="nofollow">source article asks, "What will they think of next?"<p>
Hmmm. Writing medium made from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus" rel="nofollow">the pith of a wetland sedge?

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></a></p></a></p></a></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:30:54 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Frankly<p>This is one of the few things where I think that Hemp rhetoric makes sense.<br>
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=hemp+underwear&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=hemp+underwear&amp;ie=utf- ...<p>
Not as a liquid fuel, but as an industrial material replacement.</p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Frankly<p>This is one of the few things where I think that Hemp rhetoric makes sense.<br>
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=hemp+underwear&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=hemp+underwear&amp;ie=utf- ...<p>
Not as a liquid fuel, but as an industrial material replacement.</p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by ckmotorka</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:34:33 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Modal is Wood, too.</strong></p><p>How different is this from Modal? Modal is a form of Rayon made from beech trees. It is supposed to be environmentally friendly and I personally have Modal boxer briefs from Target that are very comfortable and inexpensive (comparatively). Better than cotton in most ways. Beech trees grow quickly, as do some pines, but, honestly, anyone who has seen replanted pine "forests" knows this ain't a forest! I've never seen a real forest where all the rows are symmetrical and void of undergrowth beneath the uniformly sized trees!</p>
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				<p><strong>Modal is Wood, too.</strong></p><p>How different is this from Modal? Modal is a form of Rayon made from beech trees. It is supposed to be environmentally friendly and I personally have Modal boxer briefs from Target that are very comfortable and inexpensive (comparatively). Better than cotton in most ways. Beech trees grow quickly, as do some pines, but, honestly, anyone who has seen replanted pine "forests" knows this ain't a forest! I've never seen a real forest where all the rows are symmetrical and void of undergrowth beneath the uniformly sized trees!</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hemp underwear</strong></p><p>Yep, much better idea than wooden underwear. &nbsp;Organically farmed hemp need not be monocultural.</p><p>
With robotic farming, crop rotation and diversity from plant to plant in the field can still be just as productive in terms of land use and human labor input, as chemical GMO monocropping.</p><p>
And the soil ecosystem can be a healthy carbon sink, rather than a burned out, inert, chemically &nbsp;toxic potential dustbowl desert.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Hemp underwear</strong></p><p>Yep, much better idea than wooden underwear. &nbsp;Organically farmed hemp need not be monocultural.</p><p>
With robotic farming, crop rotation and diversity from plant to plant in the field can still be just as productive in terms of land use and human labor input, as chemical GMO monocropping.</p><p>
And the soil ecosystem can be a healthy carbon sink, rather than a burned out, inert, chemically &nbsp;toxic potential dustbowl desert.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by anormalmanrunning</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:10:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I mean, personally, I enjoy the photo too</strong></p><p>So why can't this one go out to all the men, too? &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>I mean, personally, I enjoy the photo too</strong></p><p>So why can't this one go out to all the men, too? &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by stephanieg</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:48:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Wood<p>Just thought I'd mention the name of the brand making those underwear. It is called g=9,8, it's a French company based near Paris, which decided to base production in France as well. The designer is a former architect, turned eco-entrepreneur, who designs sexy underwear made out of recycled wood fiber, and not just for guys!<br>
check it out at <a href="http://www.g98.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.g98.com</a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Wood<p>Just thought I'd mention the name of the brand making those underwear. It is called g=9,8, it's a French company based near Paris, which decided to base production in France as well. The designer is a former architect, turned eco-entrepreneur, who designs sexy underwear made out of recycled wood fiber, and not just for guys!<br>
check it out at <a href="http://www.g98.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.g98.com</a></br></p></strong></p>
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