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            <title>Comment #1 by mkayser</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:14:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Nice conclusion</strong></p><p>Nice post, I agree and disagree with some points.</p><p>
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Communities are important<br>
Local food fosters community<br>
Ideally, we would all eat local food<br>
Equity considerations can sometimes favor bringing in food from abroad.<br>
Let's use fair trade agreements to support communities elsewhere.</p><p>


I agree with #1 and #2, but I wouldn't put too much weight on #2. Your argument applies equally well to consumer products: is it really important that my computer be built in the same state as me? I would argue, "maybe in a perfect world, but not really." Same with food. It's nice to have the sense of community, but I'm not sure it's critical that local community be fostered through food choices. </p><p>
More fundamentally: why should I cultivate greater care for the people near me, compared to the people far from me? This sounds like it verges on xenophobia. You might argue that caring about the local community is not mutually exclusive with caring about people farther away. That might be true. It's a psychological question, really. Your argument might be that a) you cultivate care where it's easiest because that's the most efficient way to do it, b) it's naturally easiest for us humans to care about stuff we can see and touch and live near; and c) once you care about some stuff, you start caring more about everything else too. If so, that's a plausible argument, though I'm not sure whether I agree.</p><p>
Anyways, I disagree with #3. but #4 and #5 sound pretty good. "Fair trade" is kind of a murky issue (people can sometimes do more harm than good by trying to overpay for something) but it might be worth it.</br></br></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Nice conclusion</strong></p><p>Nice post, I agree and disagree with some points.</p><p>
To recap:<br>


Communities are important<br>
Local food fosters community<br>
Ideally, we would all eat local food<br>
Equity considerations can sometimes favor bringing in food from abroad.<br>
Let's use fair trade agreements to support communities elsewhere.</p><p>


I agree with #1 and #2, but I wouldn't put too much weight on #2. Your argument applies equally well to consumer products: is it really important that my computer be built in the same state as me? I would argue, "maybe in a perfect world, but not really." Same with food. It's nice to have the sense of community, but I'm not sure it's critical that local community be fostered through food choices. </p><p>
More fundamentally: why should I cultivate greater care for the people near me, compared to the people far from me? This sounds like it verges on xenophobia. You might argue that caring about the local community is not mutually exclusive with caring about people farther away. That might be true. It's a psychological question, really. Your argument might be that a) you cultivate care where it's easiest because that's the most efficient way to do it, b) it's naturally easiest for us humans to care about stuff we can see and touch and live near; and c) once you care about some stuff, you start caring more about everything else too. If so, that's a plausible argument, though I'm not sure whether I agree.</p><p>
Anyways, I disagree with #3. but #4 and #5 sound pretty good. "Fair trade" is kind of a murky issue (people can sometimes do more harm than good by trying to overpay for something) but it might be worth it.</br></br></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Sam Wells</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:50:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Food is a diverse industry</strong></p><p>Excellent article but I have trouble with the conclusions as well. &nbsp;When in season, we get the absolute best grapefruit (Rio/Ruby Red) and greens in the world. &nbsp;When not in season, we have to buy from God-knows-where. &nbsp;Fruit and vegetable growers try to space their crop production so they can get several months out of it, and maybe a month beyond that, but that's it - the stuff rots. &nbsp;It has always been that way, since the dawn of Mankind. &nbsp;To call any of it a "community" is rather weird. &nbsp;I'll stop before I go into the hunting / fishing dialectic so you vegetarians (another inappropriate name because most eat fruit) won't be disgusted. &nbsp;/sammie

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Food is a diverse industry</strong></p><p>Excellent article but I have trouble with the conclusions as well. &nbsp;When in season, we get the absolute best grapefruit (Rio/Ruby Red) and greens in the world. &nbsp;When not in season, we have to buy from God-knows-where. &nbsp;Fruit and vegetable growers try to space their crop production so they can get several months out of it, and maybe a month beyond that, but that's it - the stuff rots. &nbsp;It has always been that way, since the dawn of Mankind. &nbsp;To call any of it a "community" is rather weird. &nbsp;I'll stop before I go into the hunting / fishing dialectic so you vegetarians (another inappropriate name because most eat fruit) won't be disgusted. &nbsp;/sammie

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by gogreener</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:46:38 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Some food only available part of the year<p>When not in season, we have to buy from God-knows-where.<p>
Or why not try eating the foods that <strong>are in season, instead of transporting out-of-season foods from god-knows-where?

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				<p><strong>Some food only available part of the year<p>When not in season, we have to buy from God-knows-where.<p>
Or why not try eating the foods that <strong>are in season, instead of transporting out-of-season foods from god-knows-where?

<p>---- ---- ----
<a href="http://www.gogreeneraustralia.com/blog" rel="nofollow">Go Greener, Australia - you know you want to.</a></p></strong></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by johnilsr</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:16:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Food certainly builds community<p>The relationship between food and community is clear to me. The variety of area farmers that we buy from directly - from maple syrup and eggs to produce - are friends that we might not otherwise have had. Food was the purpose at first but seems it is now just an excuse to get together. <p>
The Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) movement is another example of collectively - as a community - supporting a local farm and reaping the benefits and sharing the risks with others. It's a shared experience and that's what community is all about, no? &nbsp;Seems like food is more related to a sense community and community building than most issues. &nbsp;

<p>John Bailey
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				<p><strong>Food certainly builds community<p>The relationship between food and community is clear to me. The variety of area farmers that we buy from directly - from maple syrup and eggs to produce - are friends that we might not otherwise have had. Food was the purpose at first but seems it is now just an excuse to get together. <p>
The Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) movement is another example of collectively - as a community - supporting a local farm and reaping the benefits and sharing the risks with others. It's a shared experience and that's what community is all about, no? &nbsp;Seems like food is more related to a sense community and community building than most issues. &nbsp;

<p>John Bailey
<a href="http://www.newrules.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newrules.org/</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by eriqa</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:22:57 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>you tell me what's &quot;in season&quot;</strong></p><p>in, say, Michigan in February. </p>
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				<p><strong>you tell me what's &quot;in season&quot;</strong></p><p>in, say, Michigan in February. </p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by gmunger</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:32:39 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>since the dawn of time</strong></p><p>Or why not try eating the foods that are in season, instead of transporting out-of-season foods from god-knows-where?</p><p>
And preserving food when it's in season to use when it's not. I suspect even primitive human ancestors engaged in some type of food storage activity. Interesting how we have forgotten the art of home food preservation in one, maybe two generations.</p><p>
Anyone read Barbara Kingsolver's Animal, Vegetable, Miracle?<br>
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				<p><strong>since the dawn of time</strong></p><p>Or why not try eating the foods that are in season, instead of transporting out-of-season foods from god-knows-where?</p><p>
And preserving food when it's in season to use when it's not. I suspect even primitive human ancestors engaged in some type of food storage activity. Interesting how we have forgotten the art of home food preservation in one, maybe two generations.</p><p>
Anyone read Barbara Kingsolver's Animal, Vegetable, Miracle?<br>
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            <title>Comment #7 by julyemarie</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:46:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A point not mentioned...</strong></p><p>One very important link in this complicated chain is eating with the seasons. &nbsp;If we all adapt our eating habits to what is in season, we won't &nbsp;worry about where things are coming from, because we are only eating "in season" items. &nbsp;This is, of course, an ideal, but to me it goes along with creating community. &nbsp;And I am not saying shun those more than 200 miles from you, but taking care of where you live is a huge part of societal responsibility. &nbsp;Just something to consider...

<p>"Evils that befall the world are not nearly so often caused by bad men, as they are by good men who are silent when an opinion must be voiced."</p></p>
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				<p><strong>A point not mentioned...</strong></p><p>One very important link in this complicated chain is eating with the seasons. &nbsp;If we all adapt our eating habits to what is in season, we won't &nbsp;worry about where things are coming from, because we are only eating "in season" items. &nbsp;This is, of course, an ideal, but to me it goes along with creating community. &nbsp;And I am not saying shun those more than 200 miles from you, but taking care of where you live is a huge part of societal responsibility. &nbsp;Just something to consider...

<p>"Evils that befall the world are not nearly so often caused by bad men, as they are by good men who are silent when an opinion must be voiced."</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by julyemarie</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:48:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Oops</strong></p><p>I guess someone did mention it. :) &nbsp;Sorry about that...anyone know how to delete a comment?

<p>"Evils that befall the world are not nearly so often caused by bad men, as they are by good men who are silent when an opinion must be voiced."</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Oops</strong></p><p>I guess someone did mention it. :) &nbsp;Sorry about that...anyone know how to delete a comment?

<p>"Evils that befall the world are not nearly so often caused by bad men, as they are by good men who are silent when an opinion must be voiced."</p></p>
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