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            <title>Comment #1 by Tom Twigg</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:32:55 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What do you think the chances are</strong></p><p>that every right-to-life group and church will come out to condemn industrial Ag for this grievous loss and demand reform? Maybe withhold communion from Big Ag business leaders; suggest food buyers and other supporters of the industry repent?</p><p>
Yeah, me neither.

<p>If a twigg falls in the forest but nobody is there to hear it, it's probably best because there is bound to be cussing.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>What do you think the chances are</strong></p><p>that every right-to-life group and church will come out to condemn industrial Ag for this grievous loss and demand reform? Maybe withhold communion from Big Ag business leaders; suggest food buyers and other supporters of the industry repent?</p><p>
Yeah, me neither.

<p>If a twigg falls in the forest but nobody is there to hear it, it's probably best because there is bound to be cussing.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by atreyger</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:09:55 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>well,</strong></p><p>On the bright side, as expected, herbicides do not have an effect. I also further doubt that the herbicides are having an effect in the broad ten-pesticide mixture, and are included for thoroughness, I guess. Clearly, while we do not want to spray herbicides in ridiculous amounts, they do not seem to negatively affect human or animal health, since they act on entirely different physiological systems than those of the Kingdom Animalia.</p><p>
Because of that, I think it is rather silly to keep talking about pesticides in such broad terms. If you want to talk about insecticides, fungicides or herbicides, that's acceptable, yet, there needs to be a clear distinction about what it is that you mean.<br>
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				<p><strong>well,</strong></p><p>On the bright side, as expected, herbicides do not have an effect. I also further doubt that the herbicides are having an effect in the broad ten-pesticide mixture, and are included for thoroughness, I guess. Clearly, while we do not want to spray herbicides in ridiculous amounts, they do not seem to negatively affect human or animal health, since they act on entirely different physiological systems than those of the Kingdom Animalia.</p><p>
Because of that, I think it is rather silly to keep talking about pesticides in such broad terms. If you want to talk about insecticides, fungicides or herbicides, that's acceptable, yet, there needs to be a clear distinction about what it is that you mean.<br>
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            <title>Comment #3 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:46:03 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>questionable chemical-dumping<p>This is an off-topic tangent, but I do not know if Grist covered this interesting report, on the possible environmental damage caused by fire retardant:<p>
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/16wildfires.html?_r=1&amp;scp=2&amp;sq=California%20fire%20environmental%20risk&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/16wildfires.html?_r= ...

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>questionable chemical-dumping<p>This is an off-topic tangent, but I do not know if Grist covered this interesting report, on the possible environmental damage caused by fire retardant:<p>
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/16wildfires.html?_r=1&amp;scp=2&amp;sq=California%20fire%20environmental%20risk&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/16wildfires.html?_r= ...

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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