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            <title>Comment #1 by infp</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:18:15 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Freedom bacon anyone?</strong></p><p>Does this mean that the U.S. Congressional cafeteria will refuse to serve Candaian bacon? &nbsp;Freedom bacon anyone? &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Freedom bacon anyone?</strong></p><p>Does this mean that the U.S. Congressional cafeteria will refuse to serve Candaian bacon? &nbsp;Freedom bacon anyone? &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:17:02 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I have a funny feeling<p>this is just to free up land for rapeseed based biodiesel. Imperium claims they can buy up most every drop Canada can produce. &nbsp;<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~russ676/biodiesel/bob.html" rel="nofollow">Biofuel Bob is thinking it all over in his dreams.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>I have a funny feeling<p>this is just to free up land for rapeseed based biodiesel. Imperium claims they can buy up most every drop Canada can produce. &nbsp;<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~russ676/biodiesel/bob.html" rel="nofollow">Biofuel Bob is thinking it all over in his dreams.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:32:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Alberta bound<p>Rapeseed ("canola" in Canada) is produced mainly in the Prairie Provinces, with a little bit prouced in northeastern B.C. Here's a <a href="http://www.pecad.fas.usda.gov/highlights/2006/07/Canada_17July2006/images/productionmap_000.jpg" rel="nofollow">map, courtesy of the USDA.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Alberta bound<p>Rapeseed ("canola" in Canada) is produced mainly in the Prairie Provinces, with a little bit prouced in northeastern B.C. Here's a <a href="http://www.pecad.fas.usda.gov/highlights/2006/07/Canada_17July2006/images/productionmap_000.jpg" rel="nofollow">map, courtesy of the USDA.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:12:08 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>So much for that conspiracy theory<p>Take a look at this example of government leadership:<br>
&nbsp;<a href="http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=50533" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=50 ...<p>
U.S. Senators Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and Richard Lugar (R-IN) have introduced legislation that will significantly impact the auto industry by requiring automakers nation-wide to produce more "flex fuel" vehicles that can run on biofuels. The benchmark goal is to get 50 percent of the auto fleet using biofuels by 2012 and increase gradually to 80 percent by 2015.<p>
Senator Lugar emphasized that it will take strong government leadership to help accelerate development and use of biofuels to complement today's corn-based ethanol production.<p>
Cosponsors for the bill include Senators Maria Cantwell (D-WA), 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>So much for that conspiracy theory<p>Take a look at this example of government leadership:<br>
&nbsp;<a href="http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=50533" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=50 ...<p>
U.S. Senators Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and Richard Lugar (R-IN) have introduced legislation that will significantly impact the auto industry by requiring automakers nation-wide to produce more "flex fuel" vehicles that can run on biofuels. The benchmark goal is to get 50 percent of the auto fleet using biofuels by 2012 and increase gradually to 80 percent by 2015.<p>
Senator Lugar emphasized that it will take strong government leadership to help accelerate development and use of biofuels to complement today's corn-based ethanol production.<p>
Cosponsors for the bill include Senators Maria Cantwell (D-WA), 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:25:06 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It's called picking winners</strong></p><p>Or, "Betting in a horse race with other people's money, some of it your grandchildren's."</p>
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				<p><strong>It's called picking winners</strong></p><p>Or, "Betting in a horse race with other people's money, some of it your grandchildren's."</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by justlou</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:50:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>More Flex Fuel Vehicles</strong></p><p>Add more FFVs and ramp up the percentage of ethanol blends from 10% upward to 20% and beyond. &nbsp;People are balking at the lousy mileage they get in 85% ethanol. &nbsp;But find that magic dilution percentage that hides the poorer fuel economy with the right price and people will buy it and think they are getting a deal. &nbsp;Call it "tastes great, more filling". &nbsp;Or do something to make people think they are using less foreign oil while they are using just as much or more foreign oil. &nbsp;Or technocratizing the can down the road under the banner of freedom. Or if you ain't got vision, muddle on and build on illusion. &nbsp; </p>
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				<p><strong>More Flex Fuel Vehicles</strong></p><p>Add more FFVs and ramp up the percentage of ethanol blends from 10% upward to 20% and beyond. &nbsp;People are balking at the lousy mileage they get in 85% ethanol. &nbsp;But find that magic dilution percentage that hides the poorer fuel economy with the right price and people will buy it and think they are getting a deal. &nbsp;Call it "tastes great, more filling". &nbsp;Or do something to make people think they are using less foreign oil while they are using just as much or more foreign oil. &nbsp;Or technocratizing the can down the road under the banner of freedom. Or if you ain't got vision, muddle on and build on illusion. &nbsp; </p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:31:06 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Already been done<p>Justlou, the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition is already on the job. Here's a bumper sticker for FFVs that people can order from the NEVC's <a href="http://www.e85fuel.com/promoitems.php" rel="nofollow">website. And I'm sure that they do not intend it the least bit ironically:<p>
<a href="http://www.e85fuel.com/imgs/promo_item_graphics/ethanol_guzzler_bumper_sticker.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.e85fuel.com/imgs/promo_item_graphics/ethanol_guzzler_bumper_sticker.gif</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Already been done<p>Justlou, the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition is already on the job. Here's a bumper sticker for FFVs that people can order from the NEVC's <a href="http://www.e85fuel.com/promoitems.php" rel="nofollow">website. And I'm sure that they do not intend it the least bit ironically:<p>
<a href="http://www.e85fuel.com/imgs/promo_item_graphics/ethanol_guzzler_bumper_sticker.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.e85fuel.com/imgs/promo_item_graphics/ethanol_guzzler_bumper_sticker.gif</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Sam Wells</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:55:40 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>peroxyacetyl nitrate (PAN)</strong></p><p>PAN is some nasty stuff, and secondary reaction of burning fuels such as alcohols. &nbsp;Not only a toxic and irritant on its own, it can cause ozone reactions far downwind of the emissions source. &nbsp;It would be interesting to see if PAN is affecting the situation with the arctic ice shelf. &nbsp;/sam

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>peroxyacetyl nitrate (PAN)</strong></p><p>PAN is some nasty stuff, and secondary reaction of burning fuels such as alcohols. &nbsp;Not only a toxic and irritant on its own, it can cause ozone reactions far downwind of the emissions source. &nbsp;It would be interesting to see if PAN is affecting the situation with the arctic ice shelf. &nbsp;/sam

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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