<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Immelt: yay RPS!]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Russ http://www.grist.org/article/immelt-yay-rps/ Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:29:06 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/immelt-yay-rps/1 energy and politics

And he keeps insisting that it's not particularly political. "Energy is easy," he says.

Then again, Al Gore (who apparently is also in the room) asked him directly about what's blocking this stuff in Congress, and he basically dodged. "Partisanship," blah blah.

There's a word, Jeff. It starts with an R. Try saying it!

It shouldn't be political (Hansen has been saying the same thing).

But the Reps politicize this for the same reason they politicize everything else: by now all they represent, all they are, is greed, violence, and nihilism. Burn Baby Burn.
So the only way they can win elections is by turning everything into a political wedge issue. Everything is directly part of or adjunct to the culture wars.

Thus drilling and AGW holocaust denial have a richer significance than being "just" energy or environmental issues. They go to the core of a furious, mindless, really childish reaction to the end of this fat, arrogant, globally belligerent way of life their kind has become so used to. This is "reaction" in its purest form.

So nothing will be dealt with on its merits. Otherwise we'd long ago have shifted to a renewables-based grid and electrified mass transit as the energy/transportation base, and installed a rigorous carbon price, which by now we'd hardly even need.

]]> energy and politics

And he keeps insisting that it's not particularly political. "Energy is easy," he says.

Then again, Al Gore (who apparently is also in the room) asked him directly about what's blocking this stuff in Congress, and he basically dodged. "Partisanship," blah blah.

There's a word, Jeff. It starts with an R. Try saying it!

It shouldn't be political (Hansen has been saying the same thing).

But the Reps politicize this for the same reason they politicize everything else: by now all they represent, all they are, is greed, violence, and nihilism. Burn Baby Burn.
So the only way they can win elections is by turning everything into a political wedge issue. Everything is directly part of or adjunct to the culture wars.

Thus drilling and AGW holocaust denial have a richer significance than being "just" energy or environmental issues. They go to the core of a furious, mindless, really childish reaction to the end of this fat, arrogant, globally belligerent way of life their kind has become so used to. This is "reaction" in its purest form.

So nothing will be dealt with on its merits. Otherwise we'd long ago have shifted to a renewables-based grid and electrified mass transit as the energy/transportation base, and installed a rigorous carbon price, which by now we'd hardly even need.

]]> Comment #2 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/immelt-yay-rps/ Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:51:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/immelt-yay-rps/2 On carbon pricing

What if they just regulated CH2, NO2, CFC's, HCFC's, and certain agricultural/forestry policies etc
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And then slapped a CO2 point-of-wholesale surcharge on Coal, Oil, and Natural gas.

And then be done with it.

No reason to make it a logistical nightmare, fraught with corruption, and needed oversight.

-David Ahlport


]]> On carbon pricing

What if they just regulated CH2, NO2, CFC's, HCFC's, and certain agricultural/forestry policies etc
_

And then slapped a CO2 point-of-wholesale surcharge on Coal, Oil, and Natural gas.

And then be done with it.

No reason to make it a logistical nightmare, fraught with corruption, and needed oversight.

-David Ahlport


]]> Comment #3 by cheflovesbeer http://www.grist.org/article/immelt-yay-rps/ Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:07:18 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/immelt-yay-rps/3 How to break the gridlock

If only Jeff Immelt had some platform like a news net work. He could then certainly change public opinion enough to make the republicans change their mind.

Wait, I have it they could buy a network to spread the news. Or better yet they could use the two cable networks they already own(CNBC,MSNBC) to push for more renewable energy tax credits. Plus they own NBC.

What is the purpose of owning the media if you are not going to work for your bottom line?

]]> How to break the gridlock

If only Jeff Immelt had some platform like a news net work. He could then certainly change public opinion enough to make the republicans change their mind.

Wait, I have it they could buy a network to spread the news. Or better yet they could use the two cable networks they already own(CNBC,MSNBC) to push for more renewable energy tax credits. Plus they own NBC.

What is the purpose of owning the media if you are not going to work for your bottom line?

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