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            <title>Comment #1 by Spence</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/i-love-coal-more-no-i-love-coal-more/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:30:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Meh.</strong></p><p>I don't love coal at all. Not one bit. My hope level just declined three base points.</p>
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				<p><strong>Meh.</strong></p><p>I don't love coal at all. Not one bit. My hope level just declined three base points.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:44:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Joe Biden: &quot;I don't love coal&quot;<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/_127386.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/_127386.html<br>
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/biden-off-message-again-w_n_128652.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/biden-off-messag ...<p>
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Perhaps since we got Joe, David, and Kate blogging at HuffPo we could get a "He doesn't love coal, and that rocks!" post.

<p>-David Ahlport</p></p></p></a></br></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Joe Biden: &quot;I don't love coal&quot;<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/_127386.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/_127386.html<br>
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/biden-off-message-again-w_n_128652.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/biden-off-messag ...<p>
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Perhaps since we got Joe, David, and Kate blogging at HuffPo we could get a "He doesn't love coal, and that rocks!" post.

<p>-David Ahlport</p></p></p></a></br></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by GreyFlcn</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/i-love-coal-more-no-i-love-coal-more/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:52:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Or ya know what<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2200302/pagenum/all" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2200302/pagenum/all<br>


<p>-David Ahlport</p></br></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Or ya know what<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2200302/pagenum/all" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2200302/pagenum/all<br>


<p>-David Ahlport</p></br></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by human power</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/i-love-coal-more-no-i-love-coal-more/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:40:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bottom line</strong></p><p>Surprise, no matter who wins this election, we will continue to have corporate based policies that will assure our demise.</p><p>
Do we at least get bread with this circus?</p>
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				<p><strong>Bottom line</strong></p><p>Surprise, no matter who wins this election, we will continue to have corporate based policies that will assure our demise.</p><p>
Do we at least get bread with this circus?</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by vakibs</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:48:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It is a great defeat for the environmentalists<p>That people are still talking about clean coal.. <p>
Clean coal is the quintessential definition of greenwashing. Much more than corn ethanol.<p>
And who is doing the maximum talking ? Democrats. <p>
What happened to your voice ? Is it that you guys scream only when it is politically acceptable.. ? 

<p>Let's think in terms of <a href="http://the-redpill.blogspot.com/2008/08/eco-dollar-future-global-currency.html" rel="nofollow">eco-dollars. </a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>It is a great defeat for the environmentalists<p>That people are still talking about clean coal.. <p>
Clean coal is the quintessential definition of greenwashing. Much more than corn ethanol.<p>
And who is doing the maximum talking ? Democrats. <p>
What happened to your voice ? Is it that you guys scream only when it is politically acceptable.. ? 

<p>Let's think in terms of <a href="http://the-redpill.blogspot.com/2008/08/eco-dollar-future-global-currency.html" rel="nofollow">eco-dollars. </a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by serflorus</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:40:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I could like coal...for a little while</strong></p><p>If coal was used to make energy for facilities that build wind turbines and solar panels and that's all... I could "like" it, as long as I knew we were headed straight for a time when the turbines/panels would turn on and the coal would turn off...</p><p>
Is that too PollyAnna of me?</p>
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				<p><strong>I could like coal...for a little while</strong></p><p>If coal was used to make energy for facilities that build wind turbines and solar panels and that's all... I could "like" it, as long as I knew we were headed straight for a time when the turbines/panels would turn on and the coal would turn off...</p><p>
Is that too PollyAnna of me?</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by redpanda</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:55:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Being Serious about Global Warming</strong></p><p>Considering the massive amount of infrastructure already in place for coal extraction, transportation, and burning, it's unrealistic to suggest that the next president will flip a switch and end coal as a component of our energy mix.</p><p>
There are a lot of reasons for environmentalists to hate coal. &nbsp;Ecosystems and natural hydrological systems are ruined by mountaintop removal, coal-burning power plants emit dangerous levels of mercury and other pollutants, and of course, coal is one of the top contributors to global warming.</p><p>
But if environmentalists are going to have any credibility on the seriousness of global warming, we can't use carbon emissions as a backdoor to attacking coal because we don't like it for other reasons.</p><p>
From everything I've read on Grist and elsewhere, I doubt that carbon sequestration is technically and economically feasible. &nbsp;But we don't know, because nobody has actually built a CCS coal plant. &nbsp;For all the lip-service that carbon sequestration has received and all the hope that some politicians have pinned on it, I don't think it's a bad idea to try it out and see how it works. &nbsp;But the fights against mountaintop removal and mercury emissions should be fought on their own merits.</p>
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				<p><strong>Being Serious about Global Warming</strong></p><p>Considering the massive amount of infrastructure already in place for coal extraction, transportation, and burning, it's unrealistic to suggest that the next president will flip a switch and end coal as a component of our energy mix.</p><p>
There are a lot of reasons for environmentalists to hate coal. &nbsp;Ecosystems and natural hydrological systems are ruined by mountaintop removal, coal-burning power plants emit dangerous levels of mercury and other pollutants, and of course, coal is one of the top contributors to global warming.</p><p>
But if environmentalists are going to have any credibility on the seriousness of global warming, we can't use carbon emissions as a backdoor to attacking coal because we don't like it for other reasons.</p><p>
From everything I've read on Grist and elsewhere, I doubt that carbon sequestration is technically and economically feasible. &nbsp;But we don't know, because nobody has actually built a CCS coal plant. &nbsp;For all the lip-service that carbon sequestration has received and all the hope that some politicians have pinned on it, I don't think it's a bad idea to try it out and see how it works. &nbsp;But the fights against mountaintop removal and mercury emissions should be fought on their own merits.</p>
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