<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for October is Energy Awareness Month]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by SnoDragon http://www.grist.org/article/i-am-pretty-sure-you-are-not-aware-of-this/ Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:16:53 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/i-am-pretty-sure-you-are-not-aware-of-this/1 WTF, DOE?

If one walked up one flight of stairs and down two, would one not be a floor lower than originally intended? And would one have not just wasted a lot of personal energy in doing so? Wouldn't walking down one flight of stairs just make so much more sense to the same end?

I do not see the logic of that rule.

On a related note: does Bush even know the meanings of the words "whereof" and "hereunto?" And isn't "in the year of our Lord" a violation of separation of church and state?

The pointlessness of the Bush Administration's rhetoric is mind-boggling.

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If one walked up one flight of stairs and down two, would one not be a floor lower than originally intended? And would one have not just wasted a lot of personal energy in doing so? Wouldn't walking down one flight of stairs just make so much more sense to the same end?

I do not see the logic of that rule.

On a related note: does Bush even know the meanings of the words "whereof" and "hereunto?" And isn't "in the year of our Lord" a violation of separation of church and state?

The pointlessness of the Bush Administration's rhetoric is mind-boggling.

]]> Comment #2 by purplepeacock http://www.grist.org/article/i-am-pretty-sure-you-are-not-aware-of-this/ Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:59 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/i-am-pretty-sure-you-are-not-aware-of-this/2 Rule

I understand the confusion,
but i'm pretty sure the 1-2 Rule means walking up one flight of stairs instead of taking the elevator, or walking down two flights of stairs instead of taking the elevator.  You don't put both parts of the rule into action in one trip :)

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I understand the confusion,
but i'm pretty sure the 1-2 Rule means walking up one flight of stairs instead of taking the elevator, or walking down two flights of stairs instead of taking the elevator.  You don't put both parts of the rule into action in one trip :)

]]> Comment #3 by Steve Erickson http://www.grist.org/article/i-am-pretty-sure-you-are-not-aware-of-this/ Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:24:27 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/i-am-pretty-sure-you-are-not-aware-of-this/3 Up & Down

Under the rules of statutory construction you can't assume that what makes rational sense is what was meant. If the 1-2 rule says 1 flight up and 2 flights down, that's what it means. Better start climbing.
Let's just hope that DOE doesn't make it a formal rule. First off,  the hearings on it will be impossible to find - unless the directions take the 1-2 rule into account. Otherwise, people going to the hearing will end up on the wrong floor if they prematurely follow the rule!
On the other hand, there is already a catchy jingle to help people remember the 1-2 rule: 1, 2, Buckle my shoe . . . I can just hear the Public Service Announcements.
But we really need a full cycle analysis accounting for how much extra energy is consumed by people going up 1 flight and then down 2 twice to get to where they could have gotten if they'd only gone directly to where they were going in the first place. And of course, for those of us who don't work or live in places with elevators, think about all the energy consumed in manufacturing and installing elevators so that we can then save energy by not using them and instead going up one flight and down 2. In fact, some places will have to install whole new floors on the buildings so that  a simple 1 - 2 is even possible. I'm confident that DOE will help out with this, however, since they're environmentalists 2.
Oh, the mind just boggles!  

Steve E.





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Under the rules of statutory construction you can't assume that what makes rational sense is what was meant. If the 1-2 rule says 1 flight up and 2 flights down, that's what it means. Better start climbing.
Let's just hope that DOE doesn't make it a formal rule. First off,  the hearings on it will be impossible to find - unless the directions take the 1-2 rule into account. Otherwise, people going to the hearing will end up on the wrong floor if they prematurely follow the rule!
On the other hand, there is already a catchy jingle to help people remember the 1-2 rule: 1, 2, Buckle my shoe . . . I can just hear the Public Service Announcements.
But we really need a full cycle analysis accounting for how much extra energy is consumed by people going up 1 flight and then down 2 twice to get to where they could have gotten if they'd only gone directly to where they were going in the first place. And of course, for those of us who don't work or live in places with elevators, think about all the energy consumed in manufacturing and installing elevators so that we can then save energy by not using them and instead going up one flight and down 2. In fact, some places will have to install whole new floors on the buildings so that  a simple 1 - 2 is even possible. I'm confident that DOE will help out with this, however, since they're environmentalists 2.
Oh, the mind just boggles!  

Steve E.





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