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            <title>Comment #1 by SnoDragon</title>
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				<p><strong>Fabulous... for the homeowners</strong></p><p>Tom, I love your articles, and the guest article was also very good regarding kitchen gardens. However, there's one important component missing: not everyone owns (or even rents) houses with yards. In fact, quite a few of us, myself included, live in apartments. </p><p>
So maybe the key to home veg production is not only kitchen gardens, but also community, urban, and rooftop gardens. Because it's hard to grow veggies like squash or carrots in a pot on your balcony, even if it gets plenty of sun like mine.</p><p>
And how about putting gardening in the science curricula of middle school and high school students? And I don't mean growing bean plants in a styrofoam cup. Gardening should be a life skill, like driving and balancing a checkbook.</p><p>
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				<p><strong>Fabulous... for the homeowners</strong></p><p>Tom, I love your articles, and the guest article was also very good regarding kitchen gardens. However, there's one important component missing: not everyone owns (or even rents) houses with yards. In fact, quite a few of us, myself included, live in apartments. </p><p>
So maybe the key to home veg production is not only kitchen gardens, but also community, urban, and rooftop gardens. Because it's hard to grow veggies like squash or carrots in a pot on your balcony, even if it gets plenty of sun like mine.</p><p>
And how about putting gardening in the science curricula of middle school and high school students? And I don't mean growing bean plants in a styrofoam cup. Gardening should be a life skill, like driving and balancing a checkbook.</p><p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:46:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Always the trendy one<p>I've decided, despite a black-thumb history ladened with dead basil, oregano, fern, ivy, and even spider plants, to attempt to grow tomatoes on my back deck this summer.<p>
I ordered five different varieties of organic tomato seeds from Seeds of Change, along with sweet basil, lemon basil, parsley and chives. I scoured the local antique/junk shop for old galvanized tin pails, bushel baskets and a couple of wooden soda crates that will be pressed into service as tomato pots. &nbsp;My fiance requested pickling cucumbers, so even though I hear that the vines get really big, I'm going to sow them in a big ole pot and give 'em a try. If it doesn't work, hey, I'm out a little time and $3 for seeds (well, plus organic potting soil, but you get the idea).<p>
As we speak my tomato seedlings are luxuriating in the sun on this gorgeous NY spring day. &nbsp;I feel the need to "check on them" about every 20 minutes or so... and while I'm at it, enjoy the gorgeous Spring day. Most of the basil seeds have germinated and I have one, tiny chive shoot. &nbsp;If I'm this proud of my ability to simply germinate seeds, I may burst if I actually get to harvest a tomato. &nbsp;Only time (and sunshine, and water, and TLC) will tell.<p>
SnoDragon, there are plenty of resources on the Web for urban gardening. &nbsp;Since I'm only doing container gardening (my rental house yard is nearly all shaded by hemlocks and covered in pine needles) I Googled "container gardening" and "urban gardening" and came up with quite a few good tips. &nbsp;Mother Earth had a good section on seed starting and <a href="http://www.yougrowgirl.com" rel="nofollow">You Grow Girl has been a great resource.</a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Always the trendy one<p>I've decided, despite a black-thumb history ladened with dead basil, oregano, fern, ivy, and even spider plants, to attempt to grow tomatoes on my back deck this summer.<p>
I ordered five different varieties of organic tomato seeds from Seeds of Change, along with sweet basil, lemon basil, parsley and chives. I scoured the local antique/junk shop for old galvanized tin pails, bushel baskets and a couple of wooden soda crates that will be pressed into service as tomato pots. &nbsp;My fiance requested pickling cucumbers, so even though I hear that the vines get really big, I'm going to sow them in a big ole pot and give 'em a try. If it doesn't work, hey, I'm out a little time and $3 for seeds (well, plus organic potting soil, but you get the idea).<p>
As we speak my tomato seedlings are luxuriating in the sun on this gorgeous NY spring day. &nbsp;I feel the need to "check on them" about every 20 minutes or so... and while I'm at it, enjoy the gorgeous Spring day. Most of the basil seeds have germinated and I have one, tiny chive shoot. &nbsp;If I'm this proud of my ability to simply germinate seeds, I may burst if I actually get to harvest a tomato. &nbsp;Only time (and sunshine, and water, and TLC) will tell.<p>
SnoDragon, there are plenty of resources on the Web for urban gardening. &nbsp;Since I'm only doing container gardening (my rental house yard is nearly all shaded by hemlocks and covered in pine needles) I Googled "container gardening" and "urban gardening" and came up with quite a few good tips. &nbsp;Mother Earth had a good section on seed starting and <a href="http://www.yougrowgirl.com" rel="nofollow">You Grow Girl has been a great resource.</a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by GreenEngineer</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:59:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Gardening can be easy<p>There is this perception that gardening is hard work, and hard to learn. &nbsp;It doesn't have to be, though there is a learning curve: failure is part of the process.<p>
One of the most important things for new gardeners to do is to choose their plants correctly: grow what you will eat, and grow things that maximally benefit from being fresh and readily available. &nbsp;Also, don't get too ambitious. &nbsp;Tomatoes are one of the "standard" garden plants, but they can be tricky (especially the heirlooms) and they take alot of space.<p>
I always suggest that first-time gardeners start with:<br>


culinary herbs (ones you will cook with)<br>
salad greens<br>
strawberries<p>


These are all relatively easy to grow (some herbs more than others) and benefit greatly from being fresh. &nbsp;A fresh-picked salad is so much better than bag salad from the store (and much less energy intensive as well).<p>
Also, these are all things that do well in containers, so you can grow them on your balcony, roof, concrete patio, etc. &nbsp;To make your life even easier, try an <a href="http://www.earthbox.com" rel="nofollow">Earthbox. &nbsp;These self-watering containers make the whole process very easy.<br>
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				<p><strong>Gardening can be easy<p>There is this perception that gardening is hard work, and hard to learn. &nbsp;It doesn't have to be, though there is a learning curve: failure is part of the process.<p>
One of the most important things for new gardeners to do is to choose their plants correctly: grow what you will eat, and grow things that maximally benefit from being fresh and readily available. &nbsp;Also, don't get too ambitious. &nbsp;Tomatoes are one of the "standard" garden plants, but they can be tricky (especially the heirlooms) and they take alot of space.<p>
I always suggest that first-time gardeners start with:<br>


culinary herbs (ones you will cook with)<br>
salad greens<br>
strawberries<p>


These are all relatively easy to grow (some herbs more than others) and benefit greatly from being fresh. &nbsp;A fresh-picked salad is so much better than bag salad from the store (and much less energy intensive as well).<p>
Also, these are all things that do well in containers, so you can grow them on your balcony, roof, concrete patio, etc. &nbsp;To make your life even easier, try an <a href="http://www.earthbox.com" rel="nofollow">Earthbox. &nbsp;These self-watering containers make the whole process very easy.<br>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:32:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tomato sandwich<p>Wait until at least noon when the day is warm. Set out your cutting board and tomato knife. Add mayonnaise to two slices of fresh whole grain bread and a quick grind of pepper. <p>
Now go outside and pick your tomato and without washing it or allowing it to cool cut fat slices out of the heart of the tomato and make your sandwich. Eat immediately. <p>
Don't think you are going to eat just one sandwich either; be prepared. 

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				<p><strong>Tomato sandwich<p>Wait until at least noon when the day is warm. Set out your cutting board and tomato knife. Add mayonnaise to two slices of fresh whole grain bread and a quick grind of pepper. <p>
Now go outside and pick your tomato and without washing it or allowing it to cool cut fat slices out of the heart of the tomato and make your sandwich. Eat immediately. <p>
Don't think you are going to eat just one sandwich either; be prepared. 

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            <title>Comment #5 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:35:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Salad greens<p>Actually, I was sorely tempted by the several varieties of lettuce seedlings basking in the sun at the <a href="http://www.holbrookfarm.net/" rel="nofollow">Holbrook Farm market this week, but since our back deck is not fenced, and we have a plethora of rabbits, deer, squirrels, chipmunks, birds, etc., that frequent our yard, I thought that salad greens were likely to be nothing more than snacks for the local fauna. (On a whim this week I planted some pansies, in a rather scrabbly patch of dirt near the deck, which prompted the comment from a friend "Oh, how cute, you put out snacks for the deer!"). <p>
I'm hoping that tomatoes, being related to nightshade, will not tempt the local critters. If not, I guess I'll have to cage them instead of staking, or think about some (oh-so-attractive) chicken wire/deer fence strategy. <p>
At any rate, if I can harvest even one excellent tomato, I'll feel rewarded. &nbsp;I have less confidence in my ability to grow the herbs, as I have tried and failed many times in the past. &nbsp;</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Salad greens<p>Actually, I was sorely tempted by the several varieties of lettuce seedlings basking in the sun at the <a href="http://www.holbrookfarm.net/" rel="nofollow">Holbrook Farm market this week, but since our back deck is not fenced, and we have a plethora of rabbits, deer, squirrels, chipmunks, birds, etc., that frequent our yard, I thought that salad greens were likely to be nothing more than snacks for the local fauna. (On a whim this week I planted some pansies, in a rather scrabbly patch of dirt near the deck, which prompted the comment from a friend "Oh, how cute, you put out snacks for the deer!"). <p>
I'm hoping that tomatoes, being related to nightshade, will not tempt the local critters. If not, I guess I'll have to cage them instead of staking, or think about some (oh-so-attractive) chicken wire/deer fence strategy. <p>
At any rate, if I can harvest even one excellent tomato, I'll feel rewarded. &nbsp;I have less confidence in my ability to grow the herbs, as I have tried and failed many times in the past. &nbsp;</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Martha Hagood</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:24:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Let's hear it for Barbara Damrosch</strong></p><p>B.D. issued the ultimate challenge to the post-consumer gardener, one I have been trying to meet ever since. I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like, "You know, once you own good tools and understand something about seed saving, you can actually garden year after year without spending anything at all."<br>
She's my favorite crunchy role model. Above challenge was issued in 2004 or 2005, I think. I don't think she really meant for people to go all radical non-consumerist, just chill out on the unnecessary garden-related gadgets, but it really made an impression on me.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Let's hear it for Barbara Damrosch</strong></p><p>B.D. issued the ultimate challenge to the post-consumer gardener, one I have been trying to meet ever since. I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like, "You know, once you own good tools and understand something about seed saving, you can actually garden year after year without spending anything at all."<br>
She's my favorite crunchy role model. Above challenge was issued in 2004 or 2005, I think. I don't think she really meant for people to go all radical non-consumerist, just chill out on the unnecessary garden-related gadgets, but it really made an impression on me.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Howell Haus</title>
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				<p><strong>Kitchen Gardening Revival</strong></p><p>When I was a boy growing up in Ohio, my now 91 year old Grandmother put us to work. When I finished the mowing and trimming of her yard, I energetically joined her in the hoeing, spading, turning of soil, planting of seeds and harvesting associated with a city lot sized garden. &nbsp;It was a joy to eat a pasta dinner with sauce made by hand, grown by hand, right outside the door of her house.</p><p>
Now I live with my wife in Oregon and we've taken it a step further to include hydroponics grown outside, rooftop gardens (deer and racoons are rampant) and our own indoor germinating system complete with energy star rated T8 growing lamps purchased from our local organic growers supply. &nbsp;Our seeds are increasingly heirloom (read Seeds of Change) and we've also got a small vermiculture project going on to speed up our compost and soil rejuvenation.</p><p>
All I can say is we're hooked, and we try to hook as many other people as possible. &nbsp;It's one great way to save money, and the quality and taste are so much better than even the organic stuff we buy at the markets. &nbsp;I wholly recommend that we shoot for 50% reduction in long distance food, just like we're shooting for 50% reductions in carbon. How else will we achieve these numbers ?</p><p>
As for me and mine, don't be surprised to see us hauling garden supplies, on our bikes, of course ! - JD &amp; Kelley Howell, Eugene, OR

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				<p><strong>Kitchen Gardening Revival</strong></p><p>When I was a boy growing up in Ohio, my now 91 year old Grandmother put us to work. When I finished the mowing and trimming of her yard, I energetically joined her in the hoeing, spading, turning of soil, planting of seeds and harvesting associated with a city lot sized garden. &nbsp;It was a joy to eat a pasta dinner with sauce made by hand, grown by hand, right outside the door of her house.</p><p>
Now I live with my wife in Oregon and we've taken it a step further to include hydroponics grown outside, rooftop gardens (deer and racoons are rampant) and our own indoor germinating system complete with energy star rated T8 growing lamps purchased from our local organic growers supply. &nbsp;Our seeds are increasingly heirloom (read Seeds of Change) and we've also got a small vermiculture project going on to speed up our compost and soil rejuvenation.</p><p>
All I can say is we're hooked, and we try to hook as many other people as possible. &nbsp;It's one great way to save money, and the quality and taste are so much better than even the organic stuff we buy at the markets. &nbsp;I wholly recommend that we shoot for 50% reduction in long distance food, just like we're shooting for 50% reductions in carbon. How else will we achieve these numbers ?</p><p>
As for me and mine, don't be surprised to see us hauling garden supplies, on our bikes, of course ! - JD &amp; Kelley Howell, Eugene, OR

<p>JD &amp; Kelley Howell of
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visit us: Cut20.blogspot.com</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by KZ</title>
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				<p><strong>Garden for the planet!</strong></p><p>This is a subject so very near and dear to my heart. I've been growing my own veggies for years and would love to see more people do so. It strikes me that in the suburbs, we are already a nation of farmers: We slavishly farm - grass. Stupid, useless plant that requires water, fertilizer, pesticides and weekly passes with a gas-guzzling mower. If only we could get more people to replace some portion of their lawns with veggies, how good it would be for the planet and, not incidentally, for our own health!</p>
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				<p><strong>Garden for the planet!</strong></p><p>This is a subject so very near and dear to my heart. I've been growing my own veggies for years and would love to see more people do so. It strikes me that in the suburbs, we are already a nation of farmers: We slavishly farm - grass. Stupid, useless plant that requires water, fertilizer, pesticides and weekly passes with a gas-guzzling mower. If only we could get more people to replace some portion of their lawns with veggies, how good it would be for the planet and, not incidentally, for our own health!</p>
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				<p><strong>Tool lust<p>If you need information about garden tools this old article from Mother Earth News, <a href="http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/1987-07-01/In-Search-of-the-Perfect-Hoe.aspx" rel="nofollow">"In search of the perfect hoe" is a great summary. The fact that it's still there from a 1987 article says something. <p>
If you simply must have the best hand tools available for gardening <a href="http://www.hidatool.com" rel="nofollow">Hida Tools is the place to go to. If you are anywhere near Berkeley it's worth the drive as it's just across from REI and a few doors down from <a href="http://www.ashkenaz.com" rel="nofollow">Ashkenaz. It's the same tiny hole-in-the-wall it's been for twenty years. A living museum. &nbsp;

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				<p><strong>Tool lust<p>If you need information about garden tools this old article from Mother Earth News, <a href="http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/1987-07-01/In-Search-of-the-Perfect-Hoe.aspx" rel="nofollow">"In search of the perfect hoe" is a great summary. The fact that it's still there from a 1987 article says something. <p>
If you simply must have the best hand tools available for gardening <a href="http://www.hidatool.com" rel="nofollow">Hida Tools is the place to go to. If you are anywhere near Berkeley it's worth the drive as it's just across from REI and a few doors down from <a href="http://www.ashkenaz.com" rel="nofollow">Ashkenaz. It's the same tiny hole-in-the-wall it's been for twenty years. A living museum. &nbsp;

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            <title>Comment #10 by caniscandida</title>
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				<p><strong>gardening as a major!</strong></p><p>I love SnoDragon's idea, to make gardening an important part of the curriculum in high schools and colleges. &nbsp;Especially at an urban campus such as my alma mater, Columbia, I suspect doing gardening as one's science requirement would be hugely popular.

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				<p><strong>gardening as a major!</strong></p><p>I love SnoDragon's idea, to make gardening an important part of the curriculum in high schools and colleges. &nbsp;Especially at an urban campus such as my alma mater, Columbia, I suspect doing gardening as one's science requirement would be hugely popular.

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            <title>Comment #11 by ataremove</title>
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				<p><strong>KMP - Cucumbers</strong></p><p>KMP <br>
Go vertical with the cucumbers. &nbsp;I started growing them more than 15 years ago, and I have always used a trellis or two or three of some sort. &nbsp;Nothing fancy, just somethings I put together from scavanged material, ornamental metal wire fencing stapled/nailed to a scrap lumber frame 5-6 feet tall. &nbsp;For a few years, my sister used a simple string net hanging from a privacy fence. &nbsp;I like mine to be free standing so I can get around behind. &nbsp;Makes for easy pickings. &nbsp;You have to pay attention to the vines when they are young to get them to start climbing. &nbsp;I also move them as they are growing to get them to spread out. &nbsp;Kind of an art form. <br>
A warning that probably doesn't apply to you: &nbsp;One year I helped a friend trellis her cucumbers. &nbsp;One morning after the vines has just reached the top of the 6-foot trellis, she looked out to see the top three feet gone. &nbsp;During the night, deer ate the vines thru the back of the trellis. &nbsp;A wire-mesh fence around the garden kept them from getting the lower three feet. &nbsp;<br>
One of the simple pleasures I get from gardening is the aroma of fresh green bell peppers. &nbsp;A few of them sitting in the kitchen will shortly fill the room with their aroma. &nbsp;<br>
Oh, yeah. &nbsp;When growing peppers, don't grow habanero. &nbsp;One small plant produces 20-40 little yellow peppers, and you got to wear gloves to work with them. &nbsp;I didn't and my hands tingled for two days. 

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				<p><strong>KMP - Cucumbers</strong></p><p>KMP <br>
Go vertical with the cucumbers. &nbsp;I started growing them more than 15 years ago, and I have always used a trellis or two or three of some sort. &nbsp;Nothing fancy, just somethings I put together from scavanged material, ornamental metal wire fencing stapled/nailed to a scrap lumber frame 5-6 feet tall. &nbsp;For a few years, my sister used a simple string net hanging from a privacy fence. &nbsp;I like mine to be free standing so I can get around behind. &nbsp;Makes for easy pickings. &nbsp;You have to pay attention to the vines when they are young to get them to start climbing. &nbsp;I also move them as they are growing to get them to spread out. &nbsp;Kind of an art form. <br>
A warning that probably doesn't apply to you: &nbsp;One year I helped a friend trellis her cucumbers. &nbsp;One morning after the vines has just reached the top of the 6-foot trellis, she looked out to see the top three feet gone. &nbsp;During the night, deer ate the vines thru the back of the trellis. &nbsp;A wire-mesh fence around the garden kept them from getting the lower three feet. &nbsp;<br>
One of the simple pleasures I get from gardening is the aroma of fresh green bell peppers. &nbsp;A few of them sitting in the kitchen will shortly fill the room with their aroma. &nbsp;<br>
Oh, yeah. &nbsp;When growing peppers, don't grow habanero. &nbsp;One small plant produces 20-40 little yellow peppers, and you got to wear gloves to work with them. &nbsp;I didn't and my hands tingled for two days. 

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            <title>Comment #12 by wiscidea</title>
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				<p><strong>Vegetable and Herb Gardens<p>Hello.<p>
Starting a vegetable and and herb garden was one of our better decisions. Regarding labor... don't give up too early. The gardening gets easier year after year as you build your soil and exclude weeds. The first year was horrible. Tiny vegetables, dry sandy soil, weeds, weeds, weeds. Now the plants grow much more vigorously. We've used only composted manure, composted yard waste, and hay to build the soil.<p>
Two suggestions... (1) remove annual weeds BEFORE they set seed and (2) learn to use the appropriate mulch around each plant. Hay over a layer of newspaper will substantially reduce weeds and demand for water.<p>
If you don't give up too early, having a garden becomes and addiction. We NEED fresh herbs now. I have basil, parsley, and rosemary growing in front of a window all winter to satisify our addiction to a small extent. We also NEED fresh tomatoes, carrots, and strawberries. Home grown are MUCH better than the best, even organic, you can get at a grocery store.<p>
This year I'm considering trying no-till gardening. Nothing like a noisy CO2-spewing tiller kicking up dust to ruin a perfectly fine spring day. I'm skeptical, but I'll see how it goes.<p>
The University of Wisconsin Extension has a lot of information available for home gardeners ( <a href="http://wihort.uwex.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://wihort.uwex.edu/). &nbsp;I assume other state provide similar resources?<p>
One general question...<p>
Advice for getting a child into a garden and maintaining their interest?. My 6-year-old nephew -- thrilled by any vegetable he can pull from the ground -- wants his own garden this year. What should his mother do to make sure it is a good experience?</p></p></a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Vegetable and Herb Gardens<p>Hello.<p>
Starting a vegetable and and herb garden was one of our better decisions. Regarding labor... don't give up too early. The gardening gets easier year after year as you build your soil and exclude weeds. The first year was horrible. Tiny vegetables, dry sandy soil, weeds, weeds, weeds. Now the plants grow much more vigorously. We've used only composted manure, composted yard waste, and hay to build the soil.<p>
Two suggestions... (1) remove annual weeds BEFORE they set seed and (2) learn to use the appropriate mulch around each plant. Hay over a layer of newspaper will substantially reduce weeds and demand for water.<p>
If you don't give up too early, having a garden becomes and addiction. We NEED fresh herbs now. I have basil, parsley, and rosemary growing in front of a window all winter to satisify our addiction to a small extent. We also NEED fresh tomatoes, carrots, and strawberries. Home grown are MUCH better than the best, even organic, you can get at a grocery store.<p>
This year I'm considering trying no-till gardening. Nothing like a noisy CO2-spewing tiller kicking up dust to ruin a perfectly fine spring day. I'm skeptical, but I'll see how it goes.<p>
The University of Wisconsin Extension has a lot of information available for home gardeners ( <a href="http://wihort.uwex.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://wihort.uwex.edu/). &nbsp;I assume other state provide similar resources?<p>
One general question...<p>
Advice for getting a child into a garden and maintaining their interest?. My 6-year-old nephew -- thrilled by any vegetable he can pull from the ground -- wants his own garden this year. What should his mother do to make sure it is a good experience?</p></p></a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:30:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Cucumbers, tomatoes and basil, oh my!</strong></p><p>Ataremove, thanks for the advice on the cukes. &nbsp;I'm planning on some sort of inventive, backyard-tree-branch sort of staking, if I can make it strong enough. &nbsp;If not I suppose a trip to the hardware store will be warranted. &nbsp;This is assuming that I can get them to grow more than a couple of inches, which will be success in and of itself. White-tailed deer are rampant here (although my pansies have lasted 3 whole days now, hurrah!) so I'm hoping they won't actually come up onto the deck - I think the sound of their hooves on the wooden planking startles them, as I've heard them take one or two steps up before and then bound away.</p><p>
A couple of my tomato &nbsp;plants are indeterminate, so they will definitely need staking as well. &nbsp;A year of experimenting in my "garden" I guess!</p><p>
My 4 year-old friend Kami loves any vegetable that is a "surprise;" potatoes, root veggies, carrots, etc., with their leafy green tops and surprising gem of a veggie under the dirt, thrill her more than words. &nbsp;She also seems fascinated by all the different varieties of leafy &amp; salad greens, but passed by the herbs in the Stone Barns greenhouse with nary a glance. &nbsp;Veggies that flower seem to be an obvious choice for kids and the whole germination process is pretty much a miracle - what kid could not be excited by boring old dirt suddenly sprouting into green life?</p>
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				<p><strong>Cucumbers, tomatoes and basil, oh my!</strong></p><p>Ataremove, thanks for the advice on the cukes. &nbsp;I'm planning on some sort of inventive, backyard-tree-branch sort of staking, if I can make it strong enough. &nbsp;If not I suppose a trip to the hardware store will be warranted. &nbsp;This is assuming that I can get them to grow more than a couple of inches, which will be success in and of itself. White-tailed deer are rampant here (although my pansies have lasted 3 whole days now, hurrah!) so I'm hoping they won't actually come up onto the deck - I think the sound of their hooves on the wooden planking startles them, as I've heard them take one or two steps up before and then bound away.</p><p>
A couple of my tomato &nbsp;plants are indeterminate, so they will definitely need staking as well. &nbsp;A year of experimenting in my "garden" I guess!</p><p>
My 4 year-old friend Kami loves any vegetable that is a "surprise;" potatoes, root veggies, carrots, etc., with their leafy green tops and surprising gem of a veggie under the dirt, thrill her more than words. &nbsp;She also seems fascinated by all the different varieties of leafy &amp; salad greens, but passed by the herbs in the Stone Barns greenhouse with nary a glance. &nbsp;Veggies that flower seem to be an obvious choice for kids and the whole germination process is pretty much a miracle - what kid could not be excited by boring old dirt suddenly sprouting into green life?</p>
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            <title>Comment #14 by GreenEngineer</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:04:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tools<p>My favorite gardening tools are of a japanese design. &nbsp;The <a href="http://www.hidatool.com/shop/gardening/trowel/g_trowel.html" rel="nofollow">hori hori (translates as "dig dig" apparently) isn't really a trowel in the western sense. &nbsp;It's too small for moving scoops of soil efficient. &nbsp;But it's the best thing in the world for digging small holes, detail weeding, prying up rocks, etc. &nbsp;Get the carbon steel blade, rather than the stainless one. &nbsp;It's much stronger, so you can pry with impunity. &nbsp;I was converted to this tool after destroying my third western-style trowel. &nbsp;(I live in an area with clay soil. &nbsp;If your soil is sandy, you may not care so much.)<p>
My other favorite is what Hida tools refers to as a <a href="http://www.hidatool.com/shop/gardening/weeder/g_weeder.html" rel="nofollow">weeder but I think of as a hand-plow. &nbsp;It's great for weeding, since you can hit broad areas with the blade, or do fine work with the tip. &nbsp;But where it really shines is for preparing seedbeds. &nbsp;I'm of the no-till philosophy myself, but it's still useful to stir up a bed that has been fallow all winter before you put your seedlings or seeds in. &nbsp;The hand plow works just like the name would suggest in this application.</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Tools<p>My favorite gardening tools are of a japanese design. &nbsp;The <a href="http://www.hidatool.com/shop/gardening/trowel/g_trowel.html" rel="nofollow">hori hori (translates as "dig dig" apparently) isn't really a trowel in the western sense. &nbsp;It's too small for moving scoops of soil efficient. &nbsp;But it's the best thing in the world for digging small holes, detail weeding, prying up rocks, etc. &nbsp;Get the carbon steel blade, rather than the stainless one. &nbsp;It's much stronger, so you can pry with impunity. &nbsp;I was converted to this tool after destroying my third western-style trowel. &nbsp;(I live in an area with clay soil. &nbsp;If your soil is sandy, you may not care so much.)<p>
My other favorite is what Hida tools refers to as a <a href="http://www.hidatool.com/shop/gardening/weeder/g_weeder.html" rel="nofollow">weeder but I think of as a hand-plow. &nbsp;It's great for weeding, since you can hit broad areas with the blade, or do fine work with the tip. &nbsp;But where it really shines is for preparing seedbeds. &nbsp;I'm of the no-till philosophy myself, but it's still useful to stir up a bed that has been fallow all winter before you put your seedlings or seeds in. &nbsp;The hand plow works just like the name would suggest in this application.</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #15 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:57:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Carpet Knife....<p>One of the most useful tools that I use in the garden along with the Hori Hori (mine's going on 18 years) is the carpet or linoleum knife. <p>
The basic linoleum knife pictured <a href="http://hand-tools.hardwarestore.com/67-419-flooring-and-roofing-knives/linoleum-flooring-knife-652477.aspx" rel="nofollow">here is great for detail weeding and can be had at any hardware store for about $6. Make sure you paint the handle yellow, red or wrap some colored electrical tape around it because you will put it down in the dirt and then the thing's invisible.<p>
For you true garden fanatics consider investing in one of <a href="http://questknives.4mg.com/305_02.jpg" rel="nofollow">these, a "Tile, Linoleum, Carpet Knife." &nbsp;This indestructible tool (I've tried, believe me) can be used for everything from weeding to pruning to picking oak seedlings out of your flower bed. The super-tough blade has to be sharpened with a diamond hone or by a pro though. It's worth it. <p>
Oh, I highly recommend green grape tomatoes, armenian cucumbers and micky lee watermelons. Also if you buy a bunch of basil and trim the stems like cut flowers 3/4 of them will root in a glass jar in a sunny window. <p>
They need 12 step programs for gardeners......<br>
We admitted we were powerless over our garden - that our beds had become unmanageable<br>
Came to believe that a Power greater than Rodale could restore us to sanity<br>
 Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of the Gaia as we understood Gaia<br>
Made a searching and fearless inventory of ours beds, seeds and tools<br>
Admitted to Gaia, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our chemical use<br>
 Were entirely ready to have Gaia remove all these weeds<br>
Humbly asked Gaia to manage our pests<br>
 Made a list of all persons we had ignored, and became willing to notice to them and not babble about gardening<br>
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when the weather is really good<br>
 Continued to take garden inventory and when we have too many plants promptly admitted it<br>
Sought through watering, pruning and weeding to improve our conscious contact with Gaia as we understood Gaia, praying only for knowledge of Gaia's will for us and some really decent weather<br>
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other gardeners, and to resist giving them zucchini or bragging about our gardens<p>
Ok, so I missed a few meetings; it's SPRING ok!<br>


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				<p><strong>Carpet Knife....<p>One of the most useful tools that I use in the garden along with the Hori Hori (mine's going on 18 years) is the carpet or linoleum knife. <p>
The basic linoleum knife pictured <a href="http://hand-tools.hardwarestore.com/67-419-flooring-and-roofing-knives/linoleum-flooring-knife-652477.aspx" rel="nofollow">here is great for detail weeding and can be had at any hardware store for about $6. Make sure you paint the handle yellow, red or wrap some colored electrical tape around it because you will put it down in the dirt and then the thing's invisible.<p>
For you true garden fanatics consider investing in one of <a href="http://questknives.4mg.com/305_02.jpg" rel="nofollow">these, a "Tile, Linoleum, Carpet Knife." &nbsp;This indestructible tool (I've tried, believe me) can be used for everything from weeding to pruning to picking oak seedlings out of your flower bed. The super-tough blade has to be sharpened with a diamond hone or by a pro though. It's worth it. <p>
Oh, I highly recommend green grape tomatoes, armenian cucumbers and micky lee watermelons. Also if you buy a bunch of basil and trim the stems like cut flowers 3/4 of them will root in a glass jar in a sunny window. <p>
They need 12 step programs for gardeners......<br>
We admitted we were powerless over our garden - that our beds had become unmanageable<br>
Came to believe that a Power greater than Rodale could restore us to sanity<br>
 Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of the Gaia as we understood Gaia<br>
Made a searching and fearless inventory of ours beds, seeds and tools<br>
Admitted to Gaia, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our chemical use<br>
 Were entirely ready to have Gaia remove all these weeds<br>
Humbly asked Gaia to manage our pests<br>
 Made a list of all persons we had ignored, and became willing to notice to them and not babble about gardening<br>
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when the weather is really good<br>
 Continued to take garden inventory and when we have too many plants promptly admitted it<br>
Sought through watering, pruning and weeding to improve our conscious contact with Gaia as we understood Gaia, praying only for knowledge of Gaia's will for us and some really decent weather<br>
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other gardeners, and to resist giving them zucchini or bragging about our gardens<p>
Ok, so I missed a few meetings; it's SPRING ok!<br>


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            <title>Comment #16 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:01:57 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>the school year</strong></p><p>Perversely, the September-to-June school year seems to have been designed, historically, with the sense that the school kids will have to be available to help their families when stuff is growing on their families' farms.</p><p>
So, with respect to the seasons, and the way plants respond to them, it makes no sense to do a gardening course, beginning in September and ending in December; and another one, beginning in January and ending in May.</p><p>
Or, given lab opportunities nowadays, could the seasons be altered, somehow?

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				<p><strong>the school year</strong></p><p>Perversely, the September-to-June school year seems to have been designed, historically, with the sense that the school kids will have to be available to help their families when stuff is growing on their families' farms.</p><p>
So, with respect to the seasons, and the way plants respond to them, it makes no sense to do a gardening course, beginning in September and ending in December; and another one, beginning in January and ending in May.</p><p>
Or, given lab opportunities nowadays, could the seasons be altered, somehow?

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            <title>Comment #17 by caniscandida</title>
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				<p><strong>the cult of Gaia</strong></p><p>Pangolin,<br>
Gaia, the Earth, the original female principle, is not easy to fathom.</p><p>
She came to hate her male mate Ouranos, who kvetched that she was constantly bearing him horrible monsters, such as one-eyed Cyclopes and hundred-armed Giants. &nbsp;And yet, he lay on top of her, and was constantly impregnating her; they could not help it.</p><p>
In pain and misery, she asked her children to deliver her from him. &nbsp;Only one of her many sons and daughters, the Titan Kronos, listened to his mother, over against his father, and obeyed her.</p><p>
He took a great sickle, and lopped off the genitals of his father Ouranos. &nbsp;Ouranos in great pain moved heavenward, and never again impregnated Gaia. &nbsp;(Nor presumably did he impregnate anybody ever after; he could not; plus, he now had a terrificly bad genital memory.) &nbsp;The genitals descended into the Mediterranean Sea, and became the island of Cyprus. &nbsp;The blood-mixed-with-sperm-straight-from-the-testicles floated in the Mediterranean Sea, near the western shore of Cyprus, and in due course gave rise, amidst light foam and sweet attendant gods and goddesses, to the goddess Aphrodite, as depicted in the famous quattrocento painting by Sandro Botticelli of the "Birth of Venus," aka Aphrodite.</p><p>
You might think that Gaia wanted to favor Kronos with great favor subsequently. &nbsp;In fact, she shared with him only a limited prophecy, that a child of his would overthrow him. &nbsp;So, every child that his sister/wife Rhea bore, he swallowed at once, alive: Hera (pop!), Demeter (pop!), Hestia (pop!), Poseidon (pop!), and Hades (pop! - yuck!).</p><p>
Last of all to be born was Zeus, whom Rhea figured (duh!, brilliant lady!) she had to hide. &nbsp;So, she wrapped a great boulder in baby clothes and presented it to Kronos as his new-born son (pop! - ugh!). &nbsp;Then, she hid baby Zeus in a cave on the island of Crete.</p><p>
When he grew up, he pretended he was a physician, and went to attend his father Kronos, who was complaining of a monstrous belly ache. &nbsp;So, she gave him an emetic to make him throw up all his children -- being immortal gods, they were alive and full-grown -- : Hera, Demeter, Hestia, Poseidon, and Hades; and the boulder, which landed on the spot that is now Delphi, the most sacred oracle of Gaia in the world, called the Omphalos, the Navel.</p><p>
With his brothers and sisters at his side, as well as his disrespected aunts and uncles, Zeus went on to overthrow Papa Kronos.</p><p>
But Gaia maintained an oracle at Delphi, where the Omphalos landed. &nbsp;Later, her great-grandson Apollo, son of Zeus, took charge of it; but she was always the principle of wisdom there.</p><p>
The thing is, if you ask Gaia a question, she will always give some sort of answer; but the answer is rarely straight-forward. &nbsp;Dealing with her answer is about as difficult as never having asked her in the first place.</p><p>
Unless of course, dear Pangolin, you are the stuff of heroes, such as I have no doubt you are.

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				<p><strong>the cult of Gaia</strong></p><p>Pangolin,<br>
Gaia, the Earth, the original female principle, is not easy to fathom.</p><p>
She came to hate her male mate Ouranos, who kvetched that she was constantly bearing him horrible monsters, such as one-eyed Cyclopes and hundred-armed Giants. &nbsp;And yet, he lay on top of her, and was constantly impregnating her; they could not help it.</p><p>
In pain and misery, she asked her children to deliver her from him. &nbsp;Only one of her many sons and daughters, the Titan Kronos, listened to his mother, over against his father, and obeyed her.</p><p>
He took a great sickle, and lopped off the genitals of his father Ouranos. &nbsp;Ouranos in great pain moved heavenward, and never again impregnated Gaia. &nbsp;(Nor presumably did he impregnate anybody ever after; he could not; plus, he now had a terrificly bad genital memory.) &nbsp;The genitals descended into the Mediterranean Sea, and became the island of Cyprus. &nbsp;The blood-mixed-with-sperm-straight-from-the-testicles floated in the Mediterranean Sea, near the western shore of Cyprus, and in due course gave rise, amidst light foam and sweet attendant gods and goddesses, to the goddess Aphrodite, as depicted in the famous quattrocento painting by Sandro Botticelli of the "Birth of Venus," aka Aphrodite.</p><p>
You might think that Gaia wanted to favor Kronos with great favor subsequently. &nbsp;In fact, she shared with him only a limited prophecy, that a child of his would overthrow him. &nbsp;So, every child that his sister/wife Rhea bore, he swallowed at once, alive: Hera (pop!), Demeter (pop!), Hestia (pop!), Poseidon (pop!), and Hades (pop! - yuck!).</p><p>
Last of all to be born was Zeus, whom Rhea figured (duh!, brilliant lady!) she had to hide. &nbsp;So, she wrapped a great boulder in baby clothes and presented it to Kronos as his new-born son (pop! - ugh!). &nbsp;Then, she hid baby Zeus in a cave on the island of Crete.</p><p>
When he grew up, he pretended he was a physician, and went to attend his father Kronos, who was complaining of a monstrous belly ache. &nbsp;So, she gave him an emetic to make him throw up all his children -- being immortal gods, they were alive and full-grown -- : Hera, Demeter, Hestia, Poseidon, and Hades; and the boulder, which landed on the spot that is now Delphi, the most sacred oracle of Gaia in the world, called the Omphalos, the Navel.</p><p>
With his brothers and sisters at his side, as well as his disrespected aunts and uncles, Zeus went on to overthrow Papa Kronos.</p><p>
But Gaia maintained an oracle at Delphi, where the Omphalos landed. &nbsp;Later, her great-grandson Apollo, son of Zeus, took charge of it; but she was always the principle of wisdom there.</p><p>
The thing is, if you ask Gaia a question, she will always give some sort of answer; but the answer is rarely straight-forward. &nbsp;Dealing with her answer is about as difficult as never having asked her in the first place.</p><p>
Unless of course, dear Pangolin, you are the stuff of heroes, such as I have no doubt you are.

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #18 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:06:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Alas and alak<p>as I appear to be a protaganist in a Tom Robbins novel. For my luck has a wicked sense of humour and my muse has fled for the nonce. I'm pretty decent with sword and staff though. <p>
No, I won't tell which one; call it a composite. 

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				<p><strong>Alas and alak<p>as I appear to be a protaganist in a Tom Robbins novel. For my luck has a wicked sense of humour and my muse has fled for the nonce. I'm pretty decent with sword and staff though. <p>
No, I won't tell which one; call it a composite. 

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            <title>Comment #19 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:27:48 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;decent with sword and staff&quot;</strong></p><p>Yes, I am sure you are a regular Orlando Bloom.</p><p>
Give me Kevin Costner any day.

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				<p><strong>&quot;decent with sword and staff&quot;</strong></p><p>Yes, I am sure you are a regular Orlando Bloom.</p><p>
Give me Kevin Costner any day.

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            <title>Comment #20 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:52:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>'Cyrano De Bergerac<p>For though it is spring and my heart waxes full with the moon for dear Roxane she cannot see my soul and looks aside from the man. <p>
Yeah, a man so afflicted should grasp firmly the stem of the budding rose and give proof that twinned to beauty and sweet tempting fragrance comes the price of blood and pain. <p>
......or some such. <p>
It's getting very warm here, this is a college town. and my sword arm is nigh weary though the steel is still strong. <p>
Nah, more a short Balzac with a tin ear. 

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				<p><strong>'Cyrano De Bergerac<p>For though it is spring and my heart waxes full with the moon for dear Roxane she cannot see my soul and looks aside from the man. <p>
Yeah, a man so afflicted should grasp firmly the stem of the budding rose and give proof that twinned to beauty and sweet tempting fragrance comes the price of blood and pain. <p>
......or some such. <p>
It's getting very warm here, this is a college town. and my sword arm is nigh weary though the steel is still strong. <p>
Nah, more a short Balzac with a tin ear. 

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            <title>Comment #21 by caniscandida</title>
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				<p><strong>Ah!, j'entends maintenant!</strong></p><p>Nous ne sommes pas du tout en Angleterre, nous sommes en France! &nbsp;La belle France!</p><p>
Do you know "The Three Musketeers," of 1973? &nbsp;The late Oliver Reed as Athos? &nbsp;The older warrior holding up against the young whipper-snappers, nay!, overcoming them? &nbsp;Tre'sor!

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				<p><strong>Ah!, j'entends maintenant!</strong></p><p>Nous ne sommes pas du tout en Angleterre, nous sommes en France! &nbsp;La belle France!</p><p>
Do you know "The Three Musketeers," of 1973? &nbsp;The late Oliver Reed as Athos? &nbsp;The older warrior holding up against the young whipper-snappers, nay!, overcoming them? &nbsp;Tre'sor!

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				<p><strong>Raquel Welch<p>Faye Dunaway and four guys with swords. Did they make another version? I can't recall. The tavern brawl was possibly my favorite scene with the gentlemen or perhaps the battle with the Huguenots. I've always wondered about Huguenots......<p>
Googled.<p>
Aack, they were French Calvinists. Can you imagine anything more insufferably painful than the combination of frenchman+Calvinist. I would have hunted them down too if just out of pity. At least the Catholic priesthood was habitually corrupt and therefore subject to blackmail. I shudder at the thought of a french Calvinist. <p>
I'm sure there was a garden in there somewhere; perhaps the collapsed wall that could be built as a folly on an estate. <p>
Enough of tangents. My apologies to all trying to figure out how this connects. 

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				<p><strong>Raquel Welch<p>Faye Dunaway and four guys with swords. Did they make another version? I can't recall. The tavern brawl was possibly my favorite scene with the gentlemen or perhaps the battle with the Huguenots. I've always wondered about Huguenots......<p>
Googled.<p>
Aack, they were French Calvinists. Can you imagine anything more insufferably painful than the combination of frenchman+Calvinist. I would have hunted them down too if just out of pity. At least the Catholic priesthood was habitually corrupt and therefore subject to blackmail. I shudder at the thought of a french Calvinist. <p>
I'm sure there was a garden in there somewhere; perhaps the collapsed wall that could be built as a folly on an estate. <p>
Enough of tangents. My apologies to all trying to figure out how this connects. 

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            <title>Comment #23 by SMLowry</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:29:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yeah for gardens!</strong></p><p>That tomato sandwich (post way back) sounds awesome! Finally spring is here and I believe the final few inches of snow in the garden will melt this week. Yeah! It's been a long, hard winter here in Maine. But right behind me as I type, seedlings are growing - tomatoes, many kinds, too many really, celery, basil, oregano (which doesn't come back in my garden, more basil, stevia (which I treat as an annual), and various flowers. Soon I'll plant the brassicas and then I'll start some nasturtiums because one can never have them soon enough. And the birds have returned along with the sun and warmth. Such a blessing, at last. Yes, growing a garden, wherever it may be - in pots, in the yard, on the roof, is a wonderful thing. No one mentioned beans. Beans are great for kids, or anyone, to grow. And you can freeze, pickle (dilly beans) or can them (which I prefer over freezing) whatever you can't eat. And garlic - don't forget garlic (which we plant in the fall here in Maine).</p>
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				<p><strong>Yeah for gardens!</strong></p><p>That tomato sandwich (post way back) sounds awesome! Finally spring is here and I believe the final few inches of snow in the garden will melt this week. Yeah! It's been a long, hard winter here in Maine. But right behind me as I type, seedlings are growing - tomatoes, many kinds, too many really, celery, basil, oregano (which doesn't come back in my garden, more basil, stevia (which I treat as an annual), and various flowers. Soon I'll plant the brassicas and then I'll start some nasturtiums because one can never have them soon enough. And the birds have returned along with the sun and warmth. Such a blessing, at last. Yes, growing a garden, wherever it may be - in pots, in the yard, on the roof, is a wonderful thing. No one mentioned beans. Beans are great for kids, or anyone, to grow. And you can freeze, pickle (dilly beans) or can them (which I prefer over freezing) whatever you can't eat. And garlic - don't forget garlic (which we plant in the fall here in Maine).</p>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:24:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Huguenots and the state of Maine</strong></p><p>"Maine" is a French placename, but I do not know if French Protestants ever had a hand in settling it -- or in settling any part of Quebec or Acadie. &nbsp;To judge from the names of towns on the right bank of the Saint Lawrence, it looks like the French back then in the 17th century were as bad as the Spanish (?!), unable to found anything without naming it after one saint or another. &nbsp;And the impressive Catholic churches of the "Acadian Coast" of Nova Scotia are among that province's sightseeing destinations.</p><p>
But in fact I do not remember Huguenots in "The Three Musketeers." &nbsp;However, the subject came up in a sexy and evil episode in the sequel, "The Four Musketeers: Milady's Revenge." &nbsp;Faye Dunaway, as Milady de Winter, finds herself in an English prison, guarded by a sensitive young Puritan; she wins his sympathy by telling him that she is a persecuted Huguenot -- which is a lie, however -- ; when he sits with her in her cell to do Bible study, she seduces him, and murders him, and takes his keys, and escapes.</p><p>
SMLowry,<br>
congratulations on the good start our garden is having! &nbsp;Back in the 1970s, when I spent the summer with my grandparents on the New Jersey seashore (and worked as a projectionist, showing such movies as "The Three Musketeers" and its sequel), I vaguely remember that the only brassica that my grandfather planted was broccoli; possibly there was cauliflower and kale and cabbage, but I am not sure.</p><p>
But he always planted beans. &nbsp;His favorite variety was pole beans, which were rather spectacular, because they required an elaborate system of sticks and strings.</p><p>
I would like to be able to ask him how he went about planning the garden every year, moving the vegetables around so that the soil would not be depleted. &nbsp;Usually whatever he did worked; but every now and again one of his vegetables came in feebly. &nbsp;I think the cucumbers might have been the most delicate in that regard.</p><p>
There was a loose cat in the neighborhood, whom he hated with a great passion (well, he was a Scorpio, after all, and Scorpios rarely do anything less than passionately), because the cat would enter the garden sneakily and poop there. &nbsp;It seemed to find the prepared soil of the garden a nice place to dig and bury its poop. &nbsp;I do not think that would have been bad for the plants, actually; but yes, it would have made my grandfather's job a bit messier.

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				<p><strong>Huguenots and the state of Maine</strong></p><p>"Maine" is a French placename, but I do not know if French Protestants ever had a hand in settling it -- or in settling any part of Quebec or Acadie. &nbsp;To judge from the names of towns on the right bank of the Saint Lawrence, it looks like the French back then in the 17th century were as bad as the Spanish (?!), unable to found anything without naming it after one saint or another. &nbsp;And the impressive Catholic churches of the "Acadian Coast" of Nova Scotia are among that province's sightseeing destinations.</p><p>
But in fact I do not remember Huguenots in "The Three Musketeers." &nbsp;However, the subject came up in a sexy and evil episode in the sequel, "The Four Musketeers: Milady's Revenge." &nbsp;Faye Dunaway, as Milady de Winter, finds herself in an English prison, guarded by a sensitive young Puritan; she wins his sympathy by telling him that she is a persecuted Huguenot -- which is a lie, however -- ; when he sits with her in her cell to do Bible study, she seduces him, and murders him, and takes his keys, and escapes.</p><p>
SMLowry,<br>
congratulations on the good start our garden is having! &nbsp;Back in the 1970s, when I spent the summer with my grandparents on the New Jersey seashore (and worked as a projectionist, showing such movies as "The Three Musketeers" and its sequel), I vaguely remember that the only brassica that my grandfather planted was broccoli; possibly there was cauliflower and kale and cabbage, but I am not sure.</p><p>
But he always planted beans. &nbsp;His favorite variety was pole beans, which were rather spectacular, because they required an elaborate system of sticks and strings.</p><p>
I would like to be able to ask him how he went about planning the garden every year, moving the vegetables around so that the soil would not be depleted. &nbsp;Usually whatever he did worked; but every now and again one of his vegetables came in feebly. &nbsp;I think the cucumbers might have been the most delicate in that regard.</p><p>
There was a loose cat in the neighborhood, whom he hated with a great passion (well, he was a Scorpio, after all, and Scorpios rarely do anything less than passionately), because the cat would enter the garden sneakily and poop there. &nbsp;It seemed to find the prepared soil of the garden a nice place to dig and bury its poop. &nbsp;I do not think that would have been bad for the plants, actually; but yes, it would have made my grandfather's job a bit messier.

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            <title>Comment #25 by Pompey Road</title>
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				<p><strong>Chicken Stuff</strong></p><p>The fertilizer companies are reaping almost as large of a profit as the oil companies. The new demand for corn has placed a high demand on fertilizer. </p><p>
Fertilizer company stocks reflect the recent increase in demand. We need however to grow organic. In Eastern Ky. I know of gardens that have been tended for over 120 years and the soil is rich and black and productive. The mules and cows and chickens produce the fertilizer needed to keep the soil tip top and not burn it up. </p><p>
A chicken house used to be the most effective for a compost heap. The straw and vegatible matter that was placed under the chicken house to catch the droppings went right into the mix. You got the added advantage of fresh eggs and in this post out of respect for those of us who don't eat animals. You know what else you got...</p><p>
The price of feed even for county folk who have the room and no zoning laws has put a crimp on the family garden. </p><p>
I loved the post about children working in the garden during summer vacation, yea right, like all of us that had that program made available to them in past generations rejoiced in that prospect. 

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				<p><strong>Chicken Stuff</strong></p><p>The fertilizer companies are reaping almost as large of a profit as the oil companies. The new demand for corn has placed a high demand on fertilizer. </p><p>
Fertilizer company stocks reflect the recent increase in demand. We need however to grow organic. In Eastern Ky. I know of gardens that have been tended for over 120 years and the soil is rich and black and productive. The mules and cows and chickens produce the fertilizer needed to keep the soil tip top and not burn it up. </p><p>
A chicken house used to be the most effective for a compost heap. The straw and vegatible matter that was placed under the chicken house to catch the droppings went right into the mix. You got the added advantage of fresh eggs and in this post out of respect for those of us who don't eat animals. You know what else you got...</p><p>
The price of feed even for county folk who have the room and no zoning laws has put a crimp on the family garden. </p><p>
I loved the post about children working in the garden during summer vacation, yea right, like all of us that had that program made available to them in past generations rejoiced in that prospect. 

<p>The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Radishes!<p>I've got broccoli and romaine starts going, plus lettuce, greens, garlic and peas of two kinds coming up from seed - two weeks ago I was still shoveling the snow off, that's how late the winter went here.<p>
Also coming up are radishes, and Wiscidea, if you're reading this, the time tested kids' first gardening project is just that: your nephew should be helped to grow some radishes this year, even if he doesn't like to eat spicy stuff like that. Radishes sprout so readily from seed that the child can scarcely fail at it, and then they make a rewarding and colorful harvest in a short time. <p>
Many a kid has been hooked on gardening by the lowly radish.<p>
Erik<br>


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				<p><strong>Radishes!<p>I've got broccoli and romaine starts going, plus lettuce, greens, garlic and peas of two kinds coming up from seed - two weeks ago I was still shoveling the snow off, that's how late the winter went here.<p>
Also coming up are radishes, and Wiscidea, if you're reading this, the time tested kids' first gardening project is just that: your nephew should be helped to grow some radishes this year, even if he doesn't like to eat spicy stuff like that. Radishes sprout so readily from seed that the child can scarcely fail at it, and then they make a rewarding and colorful harvest in a short time. <p>
Many a kid has been hooked on gardening by the lowly radish.<p>
Erik<br>


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