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            <title>Comment #1 by Martha Hagood</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:38:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>we need models like this</strong></p><p>Ok, good. Keep it coming. My partners and I can grow, and shill, and talk to other growers, but to get something like this going we need models. Thanks.</p>
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				<p><strong>we need models like this</strong></p><p>Ok, good. Keep it coming. My partners and I can grow, and shill, and talk to other growers, but to get something like this going we need models. Thanks.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Martha Hagood</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:39:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hole in the Middle</strong></p><p>Ok, good. Keep it coming. My partners and I can grow, and shill, and talk to other growers, but to get something like this going we need models. Thanks.</p>
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				<p><strong>Hole in the Middle</strong></p><p>Ok, good. Keep it coming. My partners and I can grow, and shill, and talk to other growers, but to get something like this going we need models. Thanks.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by usandthem</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:36:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hello!<p>I have been haranguing on this subject for years.The small farmer is and has been short changed for decades in this country.Big Agribusiness gets all the rewards from congress and the small farmer simply can not compete against billion dollar a year agri-farms.<br>
&nbsp;There is and has been a movement and an increase in small farms,but it is difficult.People are starting to see that the food quality from agri-business farms is low and suspect.This will help fuel the small farm revolution.In Russia during the cold war period.Russian peasants gardens far out produced the collective farms.It is kind of simple really.You have more pride and will put forth more effort for something that is yours.<br>
&nbsp;Of all places,I found out about the small farm movement at the Midwest Energy Fair,held in or near Amherst,Wisconsin.This year it is in Custer,Wisconsin,on june 20-22.Their website is <a href="http://www.the-mrea.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-mrea.org .A lot of good things are happening there,so come and find out.</a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Hello!<p>I have been haranguing on this subject for years.The small farmer is and has been short changed for decades in this country.Big Agribusiness gets all the rewards from congress and the small farmer simply can not compete against billion dollar a year agri-farms.<br>
&nbsp;There is and has been a movement and an increase in small farms,but it is difficult.People are starting to see that the food quality from agri-business farms is low and suspect.This will help fuel the small farm revolution.In Russia during the cold war period.Russian peasants gardens far out produced the collective farms.It is kind of simple really.You have more pride and will put forth more effort for something that is yours.<br>
&nbsp;Of all places,I found out about the small farm movement at the Midwest Energy Fair,held in or near Amherst,Wisconsin.This year it is in Custer,Wisconsin,on june 20-22.Their website is <a href="http://www.the-mrea.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-mrea.org .A lot of good things are happening there,so come and find out.</a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by jedimomma</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:53:51 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Go co-op!<p>This is exactly where local, cooperatively-owned markets come in to play. &nbsp;We are working on starting one in Terre Haute, Indiana right now, exactly to address the need of a reliable, larger-scale place that mid-sized farmers can supply. &nbsp;Co-ops are not concerned with profits beyond what it takes to sustain the store, so they are more able to deal with the higher costs of working with mid-sized farms. &nbsp;And the benefits to the local economy are obvious. &nbsp;Right now there is a major move to start another 500 co-ops within the next couple of decades. &nbsp;Check out <a href="http://www.foodcoop500.coop/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foodcoop500.coop/ for more information!</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Go co-op!<p>This is exactly where local, cooperatively-owned markets come in to play. &nbsp;We are working on starting one in Terre Haute, Indiana right now, exactly to address the need of a reliable, larger-scale place that mid-sized farmers can supply. &nbsp;Co-ops are not concerned with profits beyond what it takes to sustain the store, so they are more able to deal with the higher costs of working with mid-sized farms. &nbsp;And the benefits to the local economy are obvious. &nbsp;Right now there is a major move to start another 500 co-ops within the next couple of decades. &nbsp;Check out <a href="http://www.foodcoop500.coop/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foodcoop500.coop/ for more information!</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Jeremy Cherfas</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:23:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Thanks for this</strong></p><p>I somehow missed this a couple of days ago, and found it when a friend commented on a post I had written.</p><p>
The problems are not exclusive to the US, although where the US leads the rest of us follow, and that includes repeating some of your mistakes.</p><p>
When you consider the sorts of things that Wes Jackson of The Land Institute has been saying about community values and the rest of it, I'm wondering whether anyone has done a good economic analysis of how mid-swize farms stack up.</p>
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				<p><strong>Thanks for this</strong></p><p>I somehow missed this a couple of days ago, and found it when a friend commented on a post I had written.</p><p>
The problems are not exclusive to the US, although where the US leads the rest of us follow, and that includes repeating some of your mistakes.</p><p>
When you consider the sorts of things that Wes Jackson of The Land Institute has been saying about community values and the rest of it, I'm wondering whether anyone has done a good economic analysis of how mid-swize farms stack up.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by otocco</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:04:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>An Answer from the Market<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks for the post. &nbsp;More need to speak out about this.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Where I work in Michigan the trend is the same. &nbsp;A growing small farm base and increasing Mega farms but the midsized farms get squeezed out. &nbsp;A current local study showed 71% of the farmers in the region gross less than $20K.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;One of the ways we've been working to facilitate change in the marketplace is by providing mechanisms to help midsized farmers find scaleable markets. &nbsp;One tool that is currently active is online called MarketMaker (<a href="http://national.marketmaker.uiuc.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://national.marketmaker.uiuc.edu/) &nbsp;This helps these farmers find another avenue, sometimes circumventing the brokers and shippers and directly going to retailers. &nbsp;It also helps the retailers find farmers.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From the retail end, we're beginning to see much more than just lip service from produce buyers about finding local sources. &nbsp;Mid-sized grocery chains paying freight to get produce to market are feeling the pinch of $4.20 diesel. &nbsp;Their buyers are doing a lot to fill orders as close to local hubs as possible. &nbsp;This is a sea change from just three years ago, when the only company that was actually walking the walk was Wal-Mart.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I don't shop at Wal-Mart and despise many of the things they do, but they organized regional produce hubs in close proximity to their growers and cultivated relationships with these growers to make far more local supply chains, long before it was cool or even financially expedient to do. &nbsp;One of the apple growers who supplies Wal-Mart used to be a business aquaintance, and he saw the value in the system when he bought into it back in the 90's. &nbsp;It's a pity the rest of the food system is still playing catch up with Wal-Mart.</br></br></a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>An Answer from the Market<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks for the post. &nbsp;More need to speak out about this.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Where I work in Michigan the trend is the same. &nbsp;A growing small farm base and increasing Mega farms but the midsized farms get squeezed out. &nbsp;A current local study showed 71% of the farmers in the region gross less than $20K.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;One of the ways we've been working to facilitate change in the marketplace is by providing mechanisms to help midsized farmers find scaleable markets. &nbsp;One tool that is currently active is online called MarketMaker (<a href="http://national.marketmaker.uiuc.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://national.marketmaker.uiuc.edu/) &nbsp;This helps these farmers find another avenue, sometimes circumventing the brokers and shippers and directly going to retailers. &nbsp;It also helps the retailers find farmers.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From the retail end, we're beginning to see much more than just lip service from produce buyers about finding local sources. &nbsp;Mid-sized grocery chains paying freight to get produce to market are feeling the pinch of $4.20 diesel. &nbsp;Their buyers are doing a lot to fill orders as close to local hubs as possible. &nbsp;This is a sea change from just three years ago, when the only company that was actually walking the walk was Wal-Mart.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I don't shop at Wal-Mart and despise many of the things they do, but they organized regional produce hubs in close proximity to their growers and cultivated relationships with these growers to make far more local supply chains, long before it was cool or even financially expedient to do. &nbsp;One of the apple growers who supplies Wal-Mart used to be a business aquaintance, and he saw the value in the system when he bought into it back in the 90's. &nbsp;It's a pity the rest of the food system is still playing catch up with Wal-Mart.</br></br></a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by spaceshaper</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:31:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>An undeserved slight</strong></p><p>Shame that while he rightly praises our most excellent Carrboro Farmer's Market Tom Philpott exhibits such disdain for its symbiotic twin Weaver Street Market, the equally beloved local food coop he dismissively bunches with corporate giant Whole Foods in this article. Setting aside the fact that WSM's local food offerings are an order of magnitude or so greater than Whole Foods, the reality is that Carrboro/Chapel Hill's "incredibly vibrant local-food scene" owes an enormous debt to Weaver Street Market's relentless work over the last two decades, much of it in close coordination with Farmer's Market organizers. Example: together with the Carolina Farm Stewardship Association WSM has for many years co-sponsored what has become one of the largest local farm tours in the nation, for which it received an award this year from the National Cooperative Grocers Association, recognizing the event as a model for co-ops across the country. It's no exaggeration to say that without the consistent and long-term support that WSM has provided, &nbsp;many of the farms that supply the "few visionary, and necessarily relatively expensive, restaurants" would probably not exist.</p><p>
Weaver Street Market spends over two million dollars a year with local growers and food producers: as a percentage of twenty million dollars in total sales, I challenge Tom to show more than a handful of grocery stores in the country that can match, let alone exceed this record. Saturday mornings and Wednesday evenings finds crowds of local folks walking the four blocks from farmer's market to coop market, buying from each the best they have to offer. If Tom finds an insufficiency of local farm produce on the shelves at WSM he probably got there too late. </p>
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				<p><strong>An undeserved slight</strong></p><p>Shame that while he rightly praises our most excellent Carrboro Farmer's Market Tom Philpott exhibits such disdain for its symbiotic twin Weaver Street Market, the equally beloved local food coop he dismissively bunches with corporate giant Whole Foods in this article. Setting aside the fact that WSM's local food offerings are an order of magnitude or so greater than Whole Foods, the reality is that Carrboro/Chapel Hill's "incredibly vibrant local-food scene" owes an enormous debt to Weaver Street Market's relentless work over the last two decades, much of it in close coordination with Farmer's Market organizers. Example: together with the Carolina Farm Stewardship Association WSM has for many years co-sponsored what has become one of the largest local farm tours in the nation, for which it received an award this year from the National Cooperative Grocers Association, recognizing the event as a model for co-ops across the country. It's no exaggeration to say that without the consistent and long-term support that WSM has provided, &nbsp;many of the farms that supply the "few visionary, and necessarily relatively expensive, restaurants" would probably not exist.</p><p>
Weaver Street Market spends over two million dollars a year with local growers and food producers: as a percentage of twenty million dollars in total sales, I challenge Tom to show more than a handful of grocery stores in the country that can match, let alone exceed this record. Saturday mornings and Wednesday evenings finds crowds of local folks walking the four blocks from farmer's market to coop market, buying from each the best they have to offer. If Tom finds an insufficiency of local farm produce on the shelves at WSM he probably got there too late. </p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by greenfire8</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:06:51 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Nice piece!</strong></p><p>I was a farm manager on a certified organic farm of this scale...direct sales through CSA and farmers market as well as supplying several retailers. More folks need to put pressure on their grocers to buy from farms of this scale! Taking your business where smaller scale farms are represented is one part, but we must communicate this to the larger retailers as well.</p><p>
On a side, many people are just too picky about produce. One blemish and they turn their nose up. You gotta love the person who comes up to the market table and says "i just dont trust corn w/o a little earworm damage." </p><p>
Personally, I'd rather have a fresh, ripe tomatoe w/ a few marks than an immaculate one picked and shipped green then gassed to ripen. From personal experience, this kind of expectation of "quality" is the greatest roadblock to smaller organic farms entering the retail markets. I was told by a couple of retailers that the produce had to be able to maintain its quality after being shipped to regional warehouses and then back. Yeesh!</p>
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				<p><strong>Nice piece!</strong></p><p>I was a farm manager on a certified organic farm of this scale...direct sales through CSA and farmers market as well as supplying several retailers. More folks need to put pressure on their grocers to buy from farms of this scale! Taking your business where smaller scale farms are represented is one part, but we must communicate this to the larger retailers as well.</p><p>
On a side, many people are just too picky about produce. One blemish and they turn their nose up. You gotta love the person who comes up to the market table and says "i just dont trust corn w/o a little earworm damage." </p><p>
Personally, I'd rather have a fresh, ripe tomatoe w/ a few marks than an immaculate one picked and shipped green then gassed to ripen. From personal experience, this kind of expectation of "quality" is the greatest roadblock to smaller organic farms entering the retail markets. I was told by a couple of retailers that the produce had to be able to maintain its quality after being shipped to regional warehouses and then back. Yeesh!</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by greenfire8</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:19:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>one caveat</strong></p><p>I disagree w/ the notion that mid-sized farms are too big for direct sales. We were selling 200+ shares annually, some of which were picked up weekly at the Farmers Market.</p>
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				<p><strong>one caveat</strong></p><p>I disagree w/ the notion that mid-sized farms are too big for direct sales. We were selling 200+ shares annually, some of which were picked up weekly at the Farmers Market.</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Colin Wright</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:28:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Time to grow the cooperative movement?<p>Another great article, Tom. I think the time is over-ripe for this problem of scaling up local, organic foods.<p>
I second jedimomma's push for expanding the food coop model. Here in Seattle, PCC now has nine branches (including an innovative farmland trust fund). <p>
Another successful approach is the networking with local government. Here, <a href="http://www.cascadeharvest.org/" rel="nofollow">Cascade Harvest Coalition works with county governments to create innovative local food promotion, including a labeling brand, Puget Sound Fresh.<p>
Any chance of an article reviewing the rich history of cooperatives in this country and their potential? </p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Time to grow the cooperative movement?<p>Another great article, Tom. I think the time is over-ripe for this problem of scaling up local, organic foods.<p>
I second jedimomma's push for expanding the food coop model. Here in Seattle, PCC now has nine branches (including an innovative farmland trust fund). <p>
Another successful approach is the networking with local government. Here, <a href="http://www.cascadeharvest.org/" rel="nofollow">Cascade Harvest Coalition works with county governments to create innovative local food promotion, including a labeling brand, Puget Sound Fresh.<p>
Any chance of an article reviewing the rich history of cooperatives in this country and their potential? </p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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