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            <title>Comment #1 by Sam Wells</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:06:28 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>scrap tire brouhaha</strong></p><p>Perhaps Hillary got some real bad from her advisers? In the early stages of the game, many states had a huge glut of waste tires, many dumped in illegal landfills where they could (1) breed mosquitoes and spread disease and/or (2) catch on fire, in spectacular events that took weeks to extinguish. Thus from the beginning, many states wanted to find ways to recycle, burn, or somehow get rid of a few million tons of scrap tires. &nbsp;</p><p>
And industry was willing to oblige.</p><p>
The unanticipated problem was that scrap tires are difficult to burn in a power boiler that uses coal, oil, natural gas, wood products, and so forth. The emissions, so far as I know, where never a big issue, although I'm glad that became one. But the main engineering problem was that most tires these days have woven steel belts in them.</p><p>
The woven steel belts in the tires made it very difficult to split and crumb the tires very quickly, and engineers became alarmed that a big fraction of steel could get into the power boiler. They were right. The steel was clogging the slag and ash outlet on the boiler bottoms, a condition that if maintained for a while could blow up the entire unit (I am not kidding). &nbsp;</p><p>
So industry said "no thanks." &nbsp;</p><p>
Needless to say, there was a lot of eggs left on many faces, and not just Hillary's either ... nothing compared to what her husband did with his lawyering of hazardous waste dumps in Arkansas, I mean, come on get real.

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>scrap tire brouhaha</strong></p><p>Perhaps Hillary got some real bad from her advisers? In the early stages of the game, many states had a huge glut of waste tires, many dumped in illegal landfills where they could (1) breed mosquitoes and spread disease and/or (2) catch on fire, in spectacular events that took weeks to extinguish. Thus from the beginning, many states wanted to find ways to recycle, burn, or somehow get rid of a few million tons of scrap tires. &nbsp;</p><p>
And industry was willing to oblige.</p><p>
The unanticipated problem was that scrap tires are difficult to burn in a power boiler that uses coal, oil, natural gas, wood products, and so forth. The emissions, so far as I know, where never a big issue, although I'm glad that became one. But the main engineering problem was that most tires these days have woven steel belts in them.</p><p>
The woven steel belts in the tires made it very difficult to split and crumb the tires very quickly, and engineers became alarmed that a big fraction of steel could get into the power boiler. They were right. The steel was clogging the slag and ash outlet on the boiler bottoms, a condition that if maintained for a while could blow up the entire unit (I am not kidding). &nbsp;</p><p>
So industry said "no thanks." &nbsp;</p><p>
Needless to say, there was a lot of eggs left on many faces, and not just Hillary's either ... nothing compared to what her husband did with his lawyering of hazardous waste dumps in Arkansas, I mean, come on get real.

<p>Onward through the fog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Bo Gardiner</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/hillarys-poisonous-nh-cloud/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:56:29 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Wrong -- she supported only the TEST</strong></p><p>This article deeply troubled me until I looked further. &nbsp;When I read the letter which the supposedly demonstrates Clinton's willingness to "sacrifice" children on the altar of her "desperate" "ambition," I found only her support for a two-week TEST, NOT for final approval.</p><p>
Bloomberg.com reports a statement from her office that she "takes seriously the outstanding questions about the environmental impacts, and believes that the two-week test will provide the information needed to answer those questions."</p><p>
She was right... it did. &nbsp;The test failed, and from what I can tell she appropriately dropped her support given the evidence. &nbsp;I supect that one failed test will do far more to halt tireburning plans around the nation than all the efforts to prevent the test.</p><p>
Action based on evidence -- makes sense to me. &nbsp;Isn't that we want Americans to do in the face of global warming? &nbsp;Obama has done far greater damage with his support of the horrendous 2005 energy bill, which Clinton opposed. &nbsp;The real poison here is in the hyperbole of this article.</p>
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				<p><strong>Wrong -- she supported only the TEST</strong></p><p>This article deeply troubled me until I looked further. &nbsp;When I read the letter which the supposedly demonstrates Clinton's willingness to "sacrifice" children on the altar of her "desperate" "ambition," I found only her support for a two-week TEST, NOT for final approval.</p><p>
Bloomberg.com reports a statement from her office that she "takes seriously the outstanding questions about the environmental impacts, and believes that the two-week test will provide the information needed to answer those questions."</p><p>
She was right... it did. &nbsp;The test failed, and from what I can tell she appropriately dropped her support given the evidence. &nbsp;I supect that one failed test will do far more to halt tireburning plans around the nation than all the efforts to prevent the test.</p><p>
Action based on evidence -- makes sense to me. &nbsp;Isn't that we want Americans to do in the face of global warming? &nbsp;Obama has done far greater damage with his support of the horrendous 2005 energy bill, which Clinton opposed. &nbsp;The real poison here is in the hyperbole of this article.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Shelby Jennings</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/hillarys-poisonous-nh-cloud/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 04:22:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tests</strong></p><p>Don't we all wish tests were just preludes? &nbsp;I would love to call up Harvard and let them know that I'm taking the LSAT as a prelude to entrance to their law school.</p><p>
Unfortunately, they are not, which makes this article sound sadly like a failed campaign smear.</p>
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				<p><strong>Tests</strong></p><p>Don't we all wish tests were just preludes? &nbsp;I would love to call up Harvard and let them know that I'm taking the LSAT as a prelude to entrance to their law school.</p><p>
Unfortunately, they are not, which makes this article sound sadly like a failed campaign smear.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:05:54 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Smear</strong></p><p>Yep, carefully crafted. &nbsp;Imagine the eventual candidate facing these tactics in the general election.</p><p>
Are copies of articles like this being stuck under windshield wipers in NH? &nbsp;By Clinton haters. &nbsp;It wouldn't be surprising.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Smear</strong></p><p>Yep, carefully crafted. &nbsp;Imagine the eventual candidate facing these tactics in the general election.</p><p>
Are copies of articles like this being stuck under windshield wipers in NH? &nbsp;By Clinton haters. &nbsp;It wouldn't be surprising.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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