<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Climate skeptics hold conference in New York City]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Angry African http://www.grist.org/article/hackery/ Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:36:23 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/hackery/1 And they'll forget about Africa

They will deny. And they will ignore Africa as well. No problem there with climate change I guess. Africa might suffer more from the changing climate than any other continent. Especially because of the lack of social safety nets provided by governments. Is there a solution for Africa when they have so much else to focus on - health, poverty, war and hunger? Or are we caught in a Catch 22 with no sustainable solutions? More on this in my blog at http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/solving-the- ...

]]> And they'll forget about Africa

They will deny. And they will ignore Africa as well. No problem there with climate change I guess. Africa might suffer more from the changing climate than any other continent. Especially because of the lack of social safety nets provided by governments. Is there a solution for Africa when they have so much else to focus on - health, poverty, war and hunger? Or are we caught in a Catch 22 with no sustainable solutions? More on this in my blog at http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/solving-the- ...

]]> Comment #2 by enki09 http://www.grist.org/article/hackery/ Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:27:25 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/hackery/2 Pointless Argument

I have been reading the Heartland Institutes's material for a while now. I have also been following the science behind climate change research.

It seems that we have an argument which is un-winnable as it is framed. Both sides are making predictions of different futures based on the same set of data. But the future will be what it will be regardless of which side wins the argument. That is the reality.

Our energy future can be determined based on what works best and what meets the needs of the consumer best at the lowest cost. The need to replace fossil fuels for reasons of the economy, security and the environment are and have been well known since before the climate change issue became a factor.

While it is true that the potential for dire consequences related to human induced climate change are a great incentive to move rapidly on the energy issue that is all that it really is; an incentive to do what we have to do either way. This argument is just a replay of the creation vs evolution debate in different clothes.

]]> Pointless Argument

I have been reading the Heartland Institutes's material for a while now. I have also been following the science behind climate change research.

It seems that we have an argument which is un-winnable as it is framed. Both sides are making predictions of different futures based on the same set of data. But the future will be what it will be regardless of which side wins the argument. That is the reality.

Our energy future can be determined based on what works best and what meets the needs of the consumer best at the lowest cost. The need to replace fossil fuels for reasons of the economy, security and the environment are and have been well known since before the climate change issue became a factor.

While it is true that the potential for dire consequences related to human induced climate change are a great incentive to move rapidly on the energy issue that is all that it really is; an incentive to do what we have to do either way. This argument is just a replay of the creation vs evolution debate in different clothes.

]]> Comment #3 by TitanGreens http://www.grist.org/article/hackery/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:22:36 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/hackery/3 The Skeptic Tank

Check out this video from the "Climate Change Conference" -- it's funny, informative, and um, afterwards, you can deny the believers or believe the deniers.
But don't ignore the planet just because you have a big oil company in your back pocket.

http://video.titantv.com/content/000B00PS/video.aspx

Enjoy!


]]> The Skeptic Tank

Check out this video from the "Climate Change Conference" -- it's funny, informative, and um, afterwards, you can deny the believers or believe the deniers.
But don't ignore the planet just because you have a big oil company in your back pocket.

http://video.titantv.com/content/000B00PS/video.aspx

Enjoy!


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