<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Gratitude for quirky wind entrepreneurs]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/ Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:19:46 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/1 Yes!

By all means, give it up for the pioneers.  Especially the floating wind/wave/ocean current/desalinization pioneers.  Call them energy ships to cut through the red tape and litigation.

Then the wall street economists can invent wind power bond derivitaves and bring the whole boom tumbling down into financial ruin in a decade or so.

Even that won't prevent the wind from generating clean kwhs for all, for decades to come.

Which brings up the point.  Why exactly do we need the derivative designers?  Wouldn't they be better off going right from Harvard to a nice white collar prison, before they steal trillions yet again?  

It just seems like something the "free" market would incentivize.  

(ps.  Greenspan was testifying about the derivative "credit default swaps" today.  Wouldn't we all be happier if these fellers were swapping prison "spouses" instead of trillions in bad paper?)

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Yes!

By all means, give it up for the pioneers.  Especially the floating wind/wave/ocean current/desalinization pioneers.  Call them energy ships to cut through the red tape and litigation.

Then the wall street economists can invent wind power bond derivitaves and bring the whole boom tumbling down into financial ruin in a decade or so.

Even that won't prevent the wind from generating clean kwhs for all, for decades to come.

Which brings up the point.  Why exactly do we need the derivative designers?  Wouldn't they be better off going right from Harvard to a nice white collar prison, before they steal trillions yet again?  

It just seems like something the "free" market would incentivize.  

(ps.  Greenspan was testifying about the derivative "credit default swaps" today.  Wouldn't we all be happier if these fellers were swapping prison "spouses" instead of trillions in bad paper?)

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Comment #2 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/ Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:39:40 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/2 Nice idea.

Dr. X are you suggesting that we finance the coming wind industry boom with hedge-fund type financial instruments and then burn the intermediaries allowing the US to collect power from all our new infrastructure while paying the remains of the bill with devalued fiat currency?

Why, that is as evil as invading other countries to control the worlds remaining oil reserves. The only thing more evil would be to publish the plan in a book and call it something like "Project for a New American Century." Perhaps "Building the Green Millenium" would do as a title. Once you publish an insane plan like that only a conspiracy theorist would be willing to believe that the events in front of them corresponded to the plan in the book.

I say we do it.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Nice idea.

Dr. X are you suggesting that we finance the coming wind industry boom with hedge-fund type financial instruments and then burn the intermediaries allowing the US to collect power from all our new infrastructure while paying the remains of the bill with devalued fiat currency?

Why, that is as evil as invading other countries to control the worlds remaining oil reserves. The only thing more evil would be to publish the plan in a book and call it something like "Project for a New American Century." Perhaps "Building the Green Millenium" would do as a title. Once you publish an insane plan like that only a conspiracy theorist would be willing to believe that the events in front of them corresponded to the plan in the book.

I say we do it.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #3 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/ Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:11:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/3 Hehehey

"are you suggesting that we finance the coming wind industry boom with hedge-fund type financial instruments ..."

A renewable project for the new american century?  Funded with bad paper?  This is fine satire Pang.  Let's get Jon to put up an article on it!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Hehehey

"are you suggesting that we finance the coming wind industry boom with hedge-fund type financial instruments ..."

A renewable project for the new american century?  Funded with bad paper?  This is fine satire Pang.  Let's get Jon to put up an article on it!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Comment #4 by JMG http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/ Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:30:41 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/4 Prophets without honor

Your post is just in time to note the Oregonian editorial board* saying "We LOVE wind -- just not off our (sacred) shore!"

Too perfect.

http://is.gd/4GSN

(*God's constant proof of the dictum that the intelligence of a group is inversely proportional to its size.)

The 5% Project


]]> Prophets without honor

Your post is just in time to note the Oregonian editorial board* saying "We LOVE wind -- just not off our (sacred) shore!"

Too perfect.

http://is.gd/4GSN

(*God's constant proof of the dictum that the intelligence of a group is inversely proportional to its size.)

The 5% Project


]]> Comment #5 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/ Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:01:23 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/gratitude-for-quirky-wind-entrepreneurs/5 Another NIMBY fight?

This is why energy ships are the way to go with offshore power.  Anchored out past visibility from shore, with power cables coming in underwater.

The pandering to status quo industry disguised as environmental concern will delay this project far too long as it has cape wind.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Another NIMBY fight?

This is why energy ships are the way to go with offshore power.  Anchored out past visibility from shore, with power cables coming in underwater.

The pandering to status quo industry disguised as environmental concern will delay this project far too long as it has cape wind.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

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