<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Republican convention will go green]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by davedenali http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:13:12 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/1 Another GreenScam

Observers have noted that there were more African Americans on the GOP convention stage in 2004 than there were in the entire lily-white audience combined.  These folks know how to bullshit people. The party of James ("Global Warming is a Hoax") Inhofe, Arctic Drilling, oil industry subsidies and industry hacks like Mark Rey can reycle its aluminum cans and fake an environmetal conscience til the cows come home and poop on the floor.  Today's GOP is still a criminal conspiracy against the environment, and the greenest thing it could do is liquidate itself immediately and pay reparations to the American public.

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Observers have noted that there were more African Americans on the GOP convention stage in 2004 than there were in the entire lily-white audience combined.  These folks know how to bullshit people. The party of James ("Global Warming is a Hoax") Inhofe, Arctic Drilling, oil industry subsidies and industry hacks like Mark Rey can reycle its aluminum cans and fake an environmetal conscience til the cows come home and poop on the floor.  Today's GOP is still a criminal conspiracy against the environment, and the greenest thing it could do is liquidate itself immediately and pay reparations to the American public.

]]> Comment #2 by cyclelicious http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:24:34 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/2 That's unexpected

But then it was Nixon who created the EPA and the Clean Air and Water bills into law. California Governor Schwarzenegger is about as progressive as they come among U.S. governors when it comes to pushing "green" initiatives. Go figure.

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But then it was Nixon who created the EPA and the Clean Air and Water bills into law. California Governor Schwarzenegger is about as progressive as they come among U.S. governors when it comes to pushing "green" initiatives. Go figure.

]]> Comment #3 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/3 Nixon was to the left of Clinton

Both Bill and Hillary. Which shows how much politics have degraded in the US.

How's that corporate media monopoly working out for everybody?

]]> Nixon was to the left of Clinton

Both Bill and Hillary. Which shows how much politics have degraded in the US.

How's that corporate media monopoly working out for everybody?

]]> Comment #4 by davedenali http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:09:46 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/4 re: That's unexpected.

Nixon and Schwarzenegger aren't hard to figure at all.  Nixon faced a liberal Dem Congress that had held power for years. He was a crook, but no ideologue, and he came to power long before the Reagan/James Watt era signaled the lunatic right takeover of the GOP.  Schwarzenegger lives in California, and if he were not environmentally progressive, he would not be governor.  

Faking green is trendy, popular and easy.  John McCain has done it for his entire career: look at his actual environmental record at http://www.lcv.org  His career score is under 30 percent -- it stinks.  But he fakes it well.  .

]]> re: That's unexpected.

Nixon and Schwarzenegger aren't hard to figure at all.  Nixon faced a liberal Dem Congress that had held power for years. He was a crook, but no ideologue, and he came to power long before the Reagan/James Watt era signaled the lunatic right takeover of the GOP.  Schwarzenegger lives in California, and if he were not environmentally progressive, he would not be governor.  

Faking green is trendy, popular and easy.  John McCain has done it for his entire career: look at his actual environmental record at http://www.lcv.org  His career score is under 30 percent -- it stinks.  But he fakes it well.  .

]]> Comment #5 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:15:56 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/5 I wonder...

...how much of this "green" tech was installed in the building already?

I mean, is it really green if they just happen to hold the convention that had been converted to green for other reasons beforehand?

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...how much of this "green" tech was installed in the building already?

I mean, is it really green if they just happen to hold the convention that had been converted to green for other reasons beforehand?

]]> Comment #6 by Angry African http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:54:36 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/6 Huh, everything going green?

It seems as if everything is turning green nowadays. And people just can't understand why consumers aren't buying more of it or voters aren't really into it. Not rocket science - really. People buy and vote for many reasons - not just the environmental impact. You think you can sell a "green" blow-up doll? Maybe look at functionality, price, quality etc first before turning everything green. Then we can start changing the consumers. More on this on my blog at http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/make-it-bett ...

]]> Huh, everything going green?

It seems as if everything is turning green nowadays. And people just can't understand why consumers aren't buying more of it or voters aren't really into it. Not rocket science - really. People buy and vote for many reasons - not just the environmental impact. You think you can sell a "green" blow-up doll? Maybe look at functionality, price, quality etc first before turning everything green. Then we can start changing the consumers. More on this on my blog at http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/make-it-bett ...

]]> Comment #7 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:31:34 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/7 GOP Does; Dems Say


GOP takes action.  

Dems mouth words.

]]> GOP Does; Dems Say


GOP takes action.  

Dems mouth words.

]]> Comment #8 by 2wheeler http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:25:47 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/8 Now if they could just ...

...do so the other 1457 days of the presidential electoral term, and at the local level around the country in all the operations that members of that political party bear public responsibility for.

Actions speak louder, and the daily actions speak loudest.  Sustainability is more than something to pursue on TV for a couple days once every 4 years.  Public accountability for sustainability needs to be reckoned on a daily basis.

1-20-09: The End of an Error

]]> Now if they could just ...

...do so the other 1457 days of the presidential electoral term, and at the local level around the country in all the operations that members of that political party bear public responsibility for.

Actions speak louder, and the daily actions speak loudest.  Sustainability is more than something to pursue on TV for a couple days once every 4 years.  Public accountability for sustainability needs to be reckoned on a daily basis.

1-20-09: The End of an Error

]]> Comment #9 by mavkato http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:30:04 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/9 Minneapolis != St Paul

one itty bitty minor teeny weeny correction to the article above, the site of the convention is actually in St Paul, not Minneapolis.

]]> Minneapolis != St Paul

one itty bitty minor teeny weeny correction to the article above, the site of the convention is actually in St Paul, not Minneapolis.

]]> Comment #10 by EcoReason http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/ Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:14:05 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gop_convention/10 Heresy

But it's institution's like Grist that make such meaningless gestures as the Republicans are making even appear on the radar.  The only thing green about either party is the money that influences their decision-making.

But, heck, Grist is just a PR machine itself, throwing about symbolism and catch phrases and whatever is the most popular hot air about 'green' issues.  They effect none of the fundamental change necessary to maintain habitability on Earth.

Do I think the Republicans are really "green?"  Yes.  They are as "green" as Grist and no greener.

Talk is easy.  Change is hard.  Green chic won't cut it, here or there or anywhere.

Ecoreason.

"Come to know the landscape in which you live and you will help to restore the world."

]]> Heresy

But it's institution's like Grist that make such meaningless gestures as the Republicans are making even appear on the radar.  The only thing green about either party is the money that influences their decision-making.

But, heck, Grist is just a PR machine itself, throwing about symbolism and catch phrases and whatever is the most popular hot air about 'green' issues.  They effect none of the fundamental change necessary to maintain habitability on Earth.

Do I think the Republicans are really "green?"  Yes.  They are as "green" as Grist and no greener.

Talk is easy.  Change is hard.  Green chic won't cut it, here or there or anywhere.

Ecoreason.

"Come to know the landscape in which you live and you will help to restore the world."

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