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            <title>Comment #1 by mreinbold</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/gop-platform-no-ethanol-mandate/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:57:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Oh, my God</strong></p><p>I think I find myself agreeing with you on something. Is there something wrong with me?</p>
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				<p><strong>Oh, my God</strong></p><p>I think I find myself agreeing with you on something. Is there something wrong with me?</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:10:36 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Implementing the biofuels mandate was a<p>bipartisan affair. Hopefully, removing it will also be one. One can only hope.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Implementing the biofuels mandate was a<p>bipartisan affair. Hopefully, removing it will also be one. One can only hope.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:20:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Heh</strong></p><p>Well isn't that a turn of events.

<p>-David Ahlport</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Heh</strong></p><p>Well isn't that a turn of events.

<p>-David Ahlport</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:43:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Good news</strong></p><p>Better be ready for a possible McCain win.</p><p>
Let's look at the bright side of armageddon.</p><p>
Gas will soar to 10 bucks per gallon as Iran is invaded. &nbsp;A great impetus for plugin hybrids.</p><p>
Home heating and electricity will soar too. &nbsp;Forcing investment in ground source heating/cooling and solar cogeneration.</p><p>
Nuclear power building will impell lawsuits aplenty as NIMBYism takes over.</p><p>
The draft, a necessary part of more invasion, occupation, and nation building, will create a huge war protest movement.</p><p>
Good stuff. &nbsp;Vote McCain!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Good news</strong></p><p>Better be ready for a possible McCain win.</p><p>
Let's look at the bright side of armageddon.</p><p>
Gas will soar to 10 bucks per gallon as Iran is invaded. &nbsp;A great impetus for plugin hybrids.</p><p>
Home heating and electricity will soar too. &nbsp;Forcing investment in ground source heating/cooling and solar cogeneration.</p><p>
Nuclear power building will impell lawsuits aplenty as NIMBYism takes over.</p><p>
The draft, a necessary part of more invasion, occupation, and nation building, will create a huge war protest movement.</p><p>
Good stuff. &nbsp;Vote McCain!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by mreinbold</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:05:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Thanks</strong></p><p>I will be voting for Sarah Palin and her running mate.</p>
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				<p><strong>Thanks</strong></p><p>I will be voting for Sarah Palin and her running mate.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by mreinbold</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:06:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>My agreement</strong></p><p>is on the biofuels part.</p>
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				<p><strong>My agreement</strong></p><p>is on the biofuels part.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:29:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Compromise</strong></p><p>Obama crafts compromise, McCain wants to go forward with coal, nuclear, and oil/gas as it is used now. &nbsp;But just expand the supply somehow. By invading, occupying, and nation building country after country that happens to be located over oil?</p><p>
Witness McCain's "Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb Iran" joke?</p><p>
The "drill, drill, drill" strategy is not a strategy, it's an anti-thinking slogan like "9/11"<br>
&nbsp;has become.</p><p>
We have seen how policy by sloganeering has worked. &nbsp;"WMD", "mushroom cloud", "war on terror", and similar sloganeering style non-policies.</p><p>
Obama wants oil companies to drill where they have already been "given" (the Bush administration let them have leases without paying) leases to drill. &nbsp;But big oil wants a lock on every last drop of oil. &nbsp;Monopoly control of markets with no competition. &nbsp;</p><p>
Leverage to kill any and all environmental oversight or enforcement of antitrust laws.</p><p>
"Drill, drill, drill" what you already have been given to drill is a compromise.</p><p>
The other part of the Obama compromise is to gradually reduce our dependence on oil to match the inevitable reduction in supply. &nbsp;</p><p>
Over matching that supply/demand mismatch, by reducing demand even faster than the natural supply dries up, is a very good strategy to maintain our economic and political leadership position as a nation. &nbsp;</p><p>
The US can become a force for freedom and environmentalism once again by maintaining that global leadership position. &nbsp;</p><p>
Leadership in oily corporate militaristic imperialism, as the Bush administration has sought, is not working out.</p><p>
5% of the world population acting as a global police force, with technology, research, development, and manufacturing rapidly outsourced offshore with the help of corporate tax breaks is not a formula for continued US success. &nbsp;

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Compromise</strong></p><p>Obama crafts compromise, McCain wants to go forward with coal, nuclear, and oil/gas as it is used now. &nbsp;But just expand the supply somehow. By invading, occupying, and nation building country after country that happens to be located over oil?</p><p>
Witness McCain's "Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb Iran" joke?</p><p>
The "drill, drill, drill" strategy is not a strategy, it's an anti-thinking slogan like "9/11"<br>
&nbsp;has become.</p><p>
We have seen how policy by sloganeering has worked. &nbsp;"WMD", "mushroom cloud", "war on terror", and similar sloganeering style non-policies.</p><p>
Obama wants oil companies to drill where they have already been "given" (the Bush administration let them have leases without paying) leases to drill. &nbsp;But big oil wants a lock on every last drop of oil. &nbsp;Monopoly control of markets with no competition. &nbsp;</p><p>
Leverage to kill any and all environmental oversight or enforcement of antitrust laws.</p><p>
"Drill, drill, drill" what you already have been given to drill is a compromise.</p><p>
The other part of the Obama compromise is to gradually reduce our dependence on oil to match the inevitable reduction in supply. &nbsp;</p><p>
Over matching that supply/demand mismatch, by reducing demand even faster than the natural supply dries up, is a very good strategy to maintain our economic and political leadership position as a nation. &nbsp;</p><p>
The US can become a force for freedom and environmentalism once again by maintaining that global leadership position. &nbsp;</p><p>
Leadership in oily corporate militaristic imperialism, as the Bush administration has sought, is not working out.</p><p>
5% of the world population acting as a global police force, with technology, research, development, and manufacturing rapidly outsourced offshore with the help of corporate tax breaks is not a formula for continued US success. &nbsp;

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by mreinbold</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:39:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>amazingdrx</strong></p><p>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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				<p><strong>amazingdrx</strong></p><p>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by vakibs</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:22:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What's the diff between a GW Bush &amp; a S Palin?<p>lipstick

<p>Let's think in terms of <a href="http://the-redpill.blogspot.com/2008/08/eco-dollar-future-global-currency.html" rel="nofollow">eco-dollars.</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>What's the diff between a GW Bush &amp; a S Palin?<p>lipstick

<p>Let's think in terms of <a href="http://the-redpill.blogspot.com/2008/08/eco-dollar-future-global-currency.html" rel="nofollow">eco-dollars.</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by vakibs</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:18:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>do you vote for a GW Bush with lipstick ?<p><b> @mreinbold  <p>
If you do, then go ahead. It makes you kinda kinky, but we have no issues with you. But if you think otherwise, do explain the differences please :) <p>
It is quite difficult for us to distinguish Mrs Palin's policies from those of a lipsticked George W Bush. <br>


<p>Let's think in terms of <a href="http://the-redpill.blogspot.com/2008/08/eco-dollar-future-global-currency.html" rel="nofollow">eco-dollars.</a></p></br></p></p></b></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>do you vote for a GW Bush with lipstick ?<p><b> @mreinbold  <p>
If you do, then go ahead. It makes you kinda kinky, but we have no issues with you. But if you think otherwise, do explain the differences please :) <p>
It is quite difficult for us to distinguish Mrs Palin's policies from those of a lipsticked George W Bush. <br>


<p>Let's think in terms of <a href="http://the-redpill.blogspot.com/2008/08/eco-dollar-future-global-currency.html" rel="nofollow">eco-dollars.</a></p></br></p></p></b></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:49:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Palin</strong></p><p>Openly says the Ieaq war is a mission from "God" and the "He" controls it. &nbsp; Duuhbya only makes remarks like that in private. &nbsp;</p><p>
In Palin we have a whole new level of potential theocracy. &nbsp;Also duuhbya may have proudly worn the confederate flag, briefly while stripping on the bar for his fraternity in college, but unlike Palin, he was never a menmber of a party that wanted to actually secede from the union. &nbsp;</p><p>
You can be sure pretty duuhbya never shot a moose or bear either.</p><p>
Palin is the real thing. &nbsp;A secesionist, fundamentalist, creationist, abstinence educationist, book banning, "God" hearing/fearing, animal killingest, drilliest, gas guzzlingest, armageddonist. Neeehaaaaww!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Palin</strong></p><p>Openly says the Ieaq war is a mission from "God" and the "He" controls it. &nbsp; Duuhbya only makes remarks like that in private. &nbsp;</p><p>
In Palin we have a whole new level of potential theocracy. &nbsp;Also duuhbya may have proudly worn the confederate flag, briefly while stripping on the bar for his fraternity in college, but unlike Palin, he was never a menmber of a party that wanted to actually secede from the union. &nbsp;</p><p>
You can be sure pretty duuhbya never shot a moose or bear either.</p><p>
Palin is the real thing. &nbsp;A secesionist, fundamentalist, creationist, abstinence educationist, book banning, "God" hearing/fearing, animal killingest, drilliest, gas guzzlingest, armageddonist. Neeehaaaaww!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by mreinbold</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:15:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Palin adjectives</strong></p><p>Wow, what a list! However, she was never a member of the secessionist party. Nice try. You people are in a panic.</p>
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				<p><strong>Palin adjectives</strong></p><p>Wow, what a list! However, she was never a member of the secessionist party. Nice try. You people are in a panic.</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:51:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Coverup</strong></p><p>A blatant coverup einy. &nbsp;She was a member before she suddenly wasn't a member. &nbsp;As with earmarks and the bridge to nowhere, she was for them, before she was against them (then she kept the bridge to nowhere money). &nbsp;</p><p>
Flip flopping much like a Salmon, debilitated by metal sulfide pollution from the proposed Pebble Mine project, that she is championing in Alaska.</p><p>
It would be the largest open pit mining project in the US. &nbsp;With toxic tailings piling up behind fragile earthen tailings pond dams. &nbsp;Any earthquake or flood could potentially break these dams, destroying Salmon runs that provide family business fishing jobs. &nbsp;good jobs that she and her family once depended on for income.</p><p>
Now that her income is from "contributions" and insider trading tips (on oil, gas, and mining stock), she has turned her back on Alaska fishing families and the ecosystem they depend on.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Coverup</strong></p><p>A blatant coverup einy. &nbsp;She was a member before she suddenly wasn't a member. &nbsp;As with earmarks and the bridge to nowhere, she was for them, before she was against them (then she kept the bridge to nowhere money). &nbsp;</p><p>
Flip flopping much like a Salmon, debilitated by metal sulfide pollution from the proposed Pebble Mine project, that she is championing in Alaska.</p><p>
It would be the largest open pit mining project in the US. &nbsp;With toxic tailings piling up behind fragile earthen tailings pond dams. &nbsp;Any earthquake or flood could potentially break these dams, destroying Salmon runs that provide family business fishing jobs. &nbsp;good jobs that she and her family once depended on for income.</p><p>
Now that her income is from "contributions" and insider trading tips (on oil, gas, and mining stock), she has turned her back on Alaska fishing families and the ecosystem they depend on.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #14 by mreinbold</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:05:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>amazingdrx</strong></p><p>Perhaps you should contact the AIP.</p>
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				<p><strong>amazingdrx</strong></p><p>Perhaps you should contact the AIP.</p>
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