<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Hybrid production costs may drop two-thirds within 10 years]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by racc http://www.grist.org/article/going-down/ Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:35:20 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/going-down/1 Not a Solution

Hybrids are not a climate solution. Increasing auto sales and vehicle miles driven due to the lower cost per mile of hybrid use will likely negate any benefits of hybrids. As well don't forget that hybrids are more resource intensive requiring more GHG emissions for manufacture.

The solution is to drive less and use more rail and public transit.

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Hybrids are not a climate solution. Increasing auto sales and vehicle miles driven due to the lower cost per mile of hybrid use will likely negate any benefits of hybrids. As well don't forget that hybrids are more resource intensive requiring more GHG emissions for manufacture.

The solution is to drive less and use more rail and public transit.

]]> Comment #2 by scatter http://www.grist.org/article/going-down/ Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:41:52 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/going-down/2 Reduce not Negate

The rebound effect is very real but if you halve the per mile cost of driving, you're not going to double the vehicle miles driven - people have much better things to be doing with their time than drive around. Figures vary but reductions in theoretical savings range from 10% to 30%. It's worth reading this:

http://www.ukerc.ac.uk/Downloads/PDF/07/0710ReboundEffect ...

Public transport must be strongly developed all over the world but it will never be suitable for all journeys. People will still need to drive and if they're going to drive it needs to happen in the most efficient vehicles possible.

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The rebound effect is very real but if you halve the per mile cost of driving, you're not going to double the vehicle miles driven - people have much better things to be doing with their time than drive around. Figures vary but reductions in theoretical savings range from 10% to 30%. It's worth reading this:

http://www.ukerc.ac.uk/Downloads/PDF/07/0710ReboundEffect ...

Public transport must be strongly developed all over the world but it will never be suitable for all journeys. People will still need to drive and if they're going to drive it needs to happen in the most efficient vehicles possible.

]]> Comment #3 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/going-down/ Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:46:04 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/going-down/3 The gristmill treadmill

Point:

"...vehicle miles driven due to the lower cost per mile of hybrid use will likely negate any benefits"

Couunterpoint:

"...if you halve the per mile cost of driving, you're not going to double the vehicle miles driven."

Point:

"...hybrids are more resource intensive requiring more GHG emissions for manufacture."

Couunterpoint:

That is a debunked urban myth.

and around and around we go...

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

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Point:

"...vehicle miles driven due to the lower cost per mile of hybrid use will likely negate any benefits"

Couunterpoint:

"...if you halve the per mile cost of driving, you're not going to double the vehicle miles driven."

Point:

"...hybrids are more resource intensive requiring more GHG emissions for manufacture."

Couunterpoint:

That is a debunked urban myth.

and around and around we go...

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

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