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            <title>Comment #1 by naught101</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:00:47 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yay!<p>And wipe out all the endemic species of penguins and seals, and other critters! I applaud the systematic approach taken in this ecologically-aware plan!<p>
What the fuck? It's either not going to work, and the bears will die out anyway, or they'll become a weed species. Either way, no-one gives a shit about the bears, it's just a publicity stunt, and one that's going to backfire horribly if it goes ahead.

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				<p><strong>Yay!<p>And wipe out all the endemic species of penguins and seals, and other critters! I applaud the systematic approach taken in this ecologically-aware plan!<p>
What the fuck? It's either not going to work, and the bears will die out anyway, or they'll become a weed species. Either way, no-one gives a shit about the bears, it's just a publicity stunt, and one that's going to backfire horribly if it goes ahead.

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            <title>Comment #2 by naught101</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:03:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>hrrm..<p>I hope this has something to do with the date..

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				<p><strong>hrrm..<p>I hope this has something to do with the date..

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            <title>Comment #3 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:06:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>This is exactedly the kind of</strong></p><p>dimwittedness that we do NOT want to put in the White House for four years.

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				<p><strong>This is exactedly the kind of</strong></p><p>dimwittedness that we do NOT want to put in the White House for four years.

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            <title>Comment #4 by MisterNiceGuy</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:11:38 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Who are the donors?</strong></p><p>I don't think there currently are any medium to large sized land predators in Antarctica. &nbsp;Introducing a large predator into an environment such as that would drastically alter the food chain in the area and could put other species at risk. &nbsp;Nesting penguins would be particularly vulnerable to large, mobile predators, which would probably gather to focus on them when they are nesting because they would be so much easier to catch than seals.</p><p>
This group's web site says Antarctica has abundant food supplies. &nbsp;But the dodo was once abundant in its environment too, before large predators showed up.</p><p>
3,000 bears might cause problems for the seals too, from direct predation and from reductions in the penguin population, on which seals sometimes feed.</p><p>
I'm not convinced this is a good idea. &nbsp;I wonder where they got approval to move that many bears.</p><p>
Having read the promo on their web site, I'd be very interested to know which corporations and private donors are funding this. &nbsp;It sounds almost like someone is trying to avoid dealing with GHG emissions by moving the high-profile "victims", with little regard for the consequences. &nbsp;If they can say the bears are "saved", media images showing polar bears may cease to motivate people to reduce emissions.<br>


<p>Hoping to be nice.</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Who are the donors?</strong></p><p>I don't think there currently are any medium to large sized land predators in Antarctica. &nbsp;Introducing a large predator into an environment such as that would drastically alter the food chain in the area and could put other species at risk. &nbsp;Nesting penguins would be particularly vulnerable to large, mobile predators, which would probably gather to focus on them when they are nesting because they would be so much easier to catch than seals.</p><p>
This group's web site says Antarctica has abundant food supplies. &nbsp;But the dodo was once abundant in its environment too, before large predators showed up.</p><p>
3,000 bears might cause problems for the seals too, from direct predation and from reductions in the penguin population, on which seals sometimes feed.</p><p>
I'm not convinced this is a good idea. &nbsp;I wonder where they got approval to move that many bears.</p><p>
Having read the promo on their web site, I'd be very interested to know which corporations and private donors are funding this. &nbsp;It sounds almost like someone is trying to avoid dealing with GHG emissions by moving the high-profile "victims", with little regard for the consequences. &nbsp;If they can say the bears are "saved", media images showing polar bears may cease to motivate people to reduce emissions.<br>


<p>Hoping to be nice.</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:35:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;abundant food supplies&quot;</strong></p><p>Excellent observation, MisterNiceGuy. &nbsp;Presumably the brilliant person who came up with this ship-the-bears-south idea had seals in mind, as what the polar bears are supposed to eat (and not penguins). &nbsp;But Antarctic seals have a different relationship with ice and ocean than have the Arctic seals that polar bears are used to.</p><p>
And anyway, just because there are a lot of biomassive seals in a place does not mean it is a simple thing to introduce a big predator into the neighborhood.</p><p>
Your cynical final paragraph makes sense, on top of Naught101's opinion: it is all about "trying to avoid dealing with GHG emissions," with a pleasant-looking technology-is-the-solution PR device.

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				<p><strong>&quot;abundant food supplies&quot;</strong></p><p>Excellent observation, MisterNiceGuy. &nbsp;Presumably the brilliant person who came up with this ship-the-bears-south idea had seals in mind, as what the polar bears are supposed to eat (and not penguins). &nbsp;But Antarctic seals have a different relationship with ice and ocean than have the Arctic seals that polar bears are used to.</p><p>
And anyway, just because there are a lot of biomassive seals in a place does not mean it is a simple thing to introduce a big predator into the neighborhood.</p><p>
Your cynical final paragraph makes sense, on top of Naught101's opinion: it is all about "trying to avoid dealing with GHG emissions," with a pleasant-looking technology-is-the-solution PR device.

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            <title>Comment #6 by newscloud</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:53:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What is the right number of Fur Seals?<p>When I visited Antarctica (<a href="http://www.grist.org/comments/dispatches/2003/01/06/reifman-traveler/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.grist.org/comments/dispatches/2003/01/06/reifm ...), the naturalists on our trip told us that there may have once been many more Fur Seals.<p>
Even though the population has recoved to over a million. That doesn't mean that it's a healthy, diverse population. Setting hungry polar bears onto them could decimate them. It could be as bad as the 19th century!<p>
We need to address the root cause of warming...not patchworks...and we need to do it soon...because these bears are in trouble!<br>
<a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/359798.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/359798.htm ...<br>


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				<p><strong>What is the right number of Fur Seals?<p>When I visited Antarctica (<a href="http://www.grist.org/comments/dispatches/2003/01/06/reifman-traveler/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.grist.org/comments/dispatches/2003/01/06/reifm ...), the naturalists on our trip told us that there may have once been many more Fur Seals.<p>
Even though the population has recoved to over a million. That doesn't mean that it's a healthy, diverse population. Setting hungry polar bears onto them could decimate them. It could be as bad as the 19th century!<p>
We need to address the root cause of warming...not patchworks...and we need to do it soon...because these bears are in trouble!<br>
<a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/359798.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/359798.htm ...<br>


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            <title>Comment #7 by Russ</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:54:21 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>This is insane</strong></p><p>So the idea is, first they'll gorge on the helpless eggs and chicks of penguins and other birds (who are absolutely unadapted to any sort of land predator), and once this massacre is complete then they'll go back to eating seals? But Antarctic seals, I believe, don't rely on airholes in the ice the was Arctic seals do. And that's the way polar bears are adapted to hunting them. So I imagine the end result would be the bears starving anyway, unless these people are planning to feed them.</p><p>
The above comment was correct: this is a cynical attempt to convince the public that the charismatic polar bear has been "saved", so that's one icon of global warming you don't need to worry about.<br>
How did McCain latch onto this? Obviously through prior coordination. Just follow the Conservancy link in the post - they have Grover Norquist's endorsement as well.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>This is insane</strong></p><p>So the idea is, first they'll gorge on the helpless eggs and chicks of penguins and other birds (who are absolutely unadapted to any sort of land predator), and once this massacre is complete then they'll go back to eating seals? But Antarctic seals, I believe, don't rely on airholes in the ice the was Arctic seals do. And that's the way polar bears are adapted to hunting them. So I imagine the end result would be the bears starving anyway, unless these people are planning to feed them.</p><p>
The above comment was correct: this is a cynical attempt to convince the public that the charismatic polar bear has been "saved", so that's one icon of global warming you don't need to worry about.<br>
How did McCain latch onto this? Obviously through prior coordination. Just follow the Conservancy link in the post - they have Grover Norquist's endorsement as well.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by caniscandida</title>
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				<p><strong>&quot;They like minke whale&quot;</strong></p><p>They (the polar bears) would probably like anything from McDonalds', including the ketchup, but that does not mean we want them hanging around fast-food restaurants.</p><p>
&lt;&lt;<br>
Antarctica offers more than 5.4 million square miles of glacial habitat and a variety of food sources for the polar bear: emperor, adelie, rockhopper, chinstrap and gentoo penguins; leopard, fur, weddell and elephant seals; and humpback, minke, blue and orca whales.<br>
&gt;&gt;</p><p>
Right. &nbsp;So why in the world is it just. and right, to think of those animals as no more than polar-bear-food?! &nbsp;Antarctic animals want to spend some time on Earth in peace, after all, without being bit into.</p><p>
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In partnership with the Polar Bear Conservancy, Iceland's Reykjavik Zoo has been test-feeding samples of various Antarctic species to their polar bears. "They really like the minke and blue whale meat supplied by our government research expeditions," said chief zoo biologist Katrin Jonsdottir.<br>
&gt;&gt;</p><p>
Yum yum. &nbsp;No doubt the minke and blue whales are thrilled. &nbsp;"Ain't science great!," they are quoted as saying.

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				<p><strong>&quot;They like minke whale&quot;</strong></p><p>They (the polar bears) would probably like anything from McDonalds', including the ketchup, but that does not mean we want them hanging around fast-food restaurants.</p><p>
&lt;&lt;<br>
Antarctica offers more than 5.4 million square miles of glacial habitat and a variety of food sources for the polar bear: emperor, adelie, rockhopper, chinstrap and gentoo penguins; leopard, fur, weddell and elephant seals; and humpback, minke, blue and orca whales.<br>
&gt;&gt;</p><p>
Right. &nbsp;So why in the world is it just. and right, to think of those animals as no more than polar-bear-food?! &nbsp;Antarctic animals want to spend some time on Earth in peace, after all, without being bit into.</p><p>
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In partnership with the Polar Bear Conservancy, Iceland's Reykjavik Zoo has been test-feeding samples of various Antarctic species to their polar bears. "They really like the minke and blue whale meat supplied by our government research expeditions," said chief zoo biologist Katrin Jonsdottir.<br>
&gt;&gt;</p><p>
Yum yum. &nbsp;No doubt the minke and blue whales are thrilled. &nbsp;"Ain't science great!," they are quoted as saying.

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            <title>Comment #9 by Meagan</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:23:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Not again.</strong></p><p>I really, truly hope that the bears find a way to make themselves at home in the food chain without destroying it. (For their sake!)</p><p>
However, there's a reason that there are no polar bears down there, and it's probably a good one. 5 years from now, when they've eaten up all the penguins, people will be shouting 'WTF!? This was a B-A-D idea from the getgo, and now look what's happened.'</p><p>
Just go talk to all those critters over in Australia that are being wiped out by the stoat, or any other number of examples.</p><p>
This is not the solution, it's putting a band-aid on a ruptured artery. (And the band-aid may just have salt in it.) People are going to say 'Look! The bleeding stopped!', turn their back, and it's going to start bleeding again. This time it might sting a little more, too.</p><p>
We don't need a band-aid, we need well aimed direct pressure!

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				<p><strong>Not again.</strong></p><p>I really, truly hope that the bears find a way to make themselves at home in the food chain without destroying it. (For their sake!)</p><p>
However, there's a reason that there are no polar bears down there, and it's probably a good one. 5 years from now, when they've eaten up all the penguins, people will be shouting 'WTF!? This was a B-A-D idea from the getgo, and now look what's happened.'</p><p>
Just go talk to all those critters over in Australia that are being wiped out by the stoat, or any other number of examples.</p><p>
This is not the solution, it's putting a band-aid on a ruptured artery. (And the band-aid may just have salt in it.) People are going to say 'Look! The bleeding stopped!', turn their back, and it's going to start bleeding again. This time it might sting a little more, too.</p><p>
We don't need a band-aid, we need well aimed direct pressure!

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            <title>Comment #10 by KenG</title>
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				<p><strong>Huh?</strong></p><p>4/01/08 &nbsp;Duh</p>
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				<p><strong>Huh?</strong></p><p>4/01/08 &nbsp;Duh</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by LGT</title>
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				<p><strong>Let's get serious . . .</strong></p><p>Keep the polar bears where they belong; send the energy dinosaurs to the moon - better still to Mars!</p>
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				<p><strong>Let's get serious . . .</strong></p><p>Keep the polar bears where they belong; send the energy dinosaurs to the moon - better still to Mars!</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by josullivan58</title>
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				<p><strong>You been had</strong></p><p>Its obviously an April Fool's Joke.</p>
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				<p><strong>You been had</strong></p><p>Its obviously an April Fool's Joke.</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by Tom Philpott</title>
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				<p><strong>I heard the NRDC thinks they're toast anyway...<p>and wants to try making ethanol with them. Charismatic megafuana ethanol--don't knock it 'til you've tried it. 

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				<p><strong>I heard the NRDC thinks they're toast anyway...<p>and wants to try making ethanol with them. Charismatic megafuana ethanol--don't knock it 'til you've tried it. 

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            <title>Comment #14 by johnmcc793</title>
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				<p><strong>I cann't bear to think about it<p>Folks, &nbsp;<p>
I found this on the web:<p>
About The Polar Bear Conservancy<p>
Founded in 2006, the Polar Bear Conservancy is dedicated to protecting the polar regions' most magnificent mammal.<p>
Contact:<br>
Lisa Stahl, Director of Media Relations<br>
The Polar Bear Conservancy<br>
206-784-0309<br>
<a href="http://www.polarbearconservancy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.polarbearconservancy.org<p>
Will they teach the bears to climb rope ladders to scale the 500 foot snow cliffs that rim the Antarctic coast.<p>
Save us from these misguided ones.<p>
John McCormick<br>
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				<p><strong>I cann't bear to think about it<p>Folks, &nbsp;<p>
I found this on the web:<p>
About The Polar Bear Conservancy<p>
Founded in 2006, the Polar Bear Conservancy is dedicated to protecting the polar regions' most magnificent mammal.<p>
Contact:<br>
Lisa Stahl, Director of Media Relations<br>
The Polar Bear Conservancy<br>
206-784-0309<br>
<a href="http://www.polarbearconservancy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.polarbearconservancy.org<p>
Will they teach the bears to climb rope ladders to scale the 500 foot snow cliffs that rim the Antarctic coast.<p>
Save us from these misguided ones.<p>
John McCormick<br>
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            <title>Comment #15 by Adam Stein</title>
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				<p><strong>Interesting<p>But I think a better idea would be to genetically engineer warm-weather polar bears that can live comfortably in exurban Atlanta. Monsanto is actively investigating this possibility.

<p><a href="http://www.terrapass.com/blog" rel="nofollow">www.terrapass.com/blog</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Interesting<p>But I think a better idea would be to genetically engineer warm-weather polar bears that can live comfortably in exurban Atlanta. Monsanto is actively investigating this possibility.

<p><a href="http://www.terrapass.com/blog" rel="nofollow">www.terrapass.com/blog</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #16 by Meagan</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:22:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Durh</strong></p><p>Oh man, don't read emails before breakfast. I've been had. XD

<p>You mut be the change you wish to see in the world. -Mahatma Gandhi</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Durh</strong></p><p>Oh man, don't read emails before breakfast. I've been had. XD

<p>You mut be the change you wish to see in the world. -Mahatma Gandhi</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #17 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:44:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Pole Flip</strong></p><p>They'll have to swap names of course...since "Ant" (anti) "Arctic" (bear) means the absence of bears...

<p>"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -- Galileo</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Pole Flip</strong></p><p>They'll have to swap names of course...since "Ant" (anti) "Arctic" (bear) means the absence of bears...

<p>"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -- Galileo</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #18 by LGT</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:03:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>BTW</strong></p><p>The Arctic is getting real busy; the energy companies want the polar bears out of the way because they're bad news for business! Fatal PR errors for any multinational to have the cuddly creatures seen walking around their construction machinery, backhoes, excavators, dozers, drilling platforms ... or run over by trucks and hauling equipment.</p><p>
Tried and tested solution? Send them to "reservations!"</p><p>
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				<p><strong>BTW</strong></p><p>The Arctic is getting real busy; the energy companies want the polar bears out of the way because they're bad news for business! Fatal PR errors for any multinational to have the cuddly creatures seen walking around their construction machinery, backhoes, excavators, dozers, drilling platforms ... or run over by trucks and hauling equipment.</p><p>
Tried and tested solution? Send them to "reservations!"</p><p>
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            <title>Comment #19 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It'll never happen...</strong></p><p>...for one thing, under international treaty, Antartica is a scientific and natural preserve. &nbsp;To relocate polar bears to the Antartic mainland would require approval of the "host" nations, who would never allow such a thing.</p><p>
Second, to actually transport, track, and sustain a viable population would require mucho dinero. &nbsp;And nobody who is rich enough to fund it is stupid enough to do it, or face the horrible publicity from it.</p>
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				<p><strong>It'll never happen...</strong></p><p>...for one thing, under international treaty, Antartica is a scientific and natural preserve. &nbsp;To relocate polar bears to the Antartic mainland would require approval of the "host" nations, who would never allow such a thing.</p><p>
Second, to actually transport, track, and sustain a viable population would require mucho dinero. &nbsp;And nobody who is rich enough to fund it is stupid enough to do it, or face the horrible publicity from it.</p>
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            <title>Comment #20 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:21:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fools!<p>

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Fools!<p>

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #21 by hikerreese</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:55:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It's April Fools Day.</strong></p><p>Guess what? &nbsp;Al Gore isn't running for president either. &nbsp;I had a good time reading the comments though. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>It's April Fools Day.</strong></p><p>Guess what? &nbsp;Al Gore isn't running for president either. &nbsp;I had a good time reading the comments though. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #22 by MisterNiceGuy</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:05:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Time zones and reputations...</strong></p><p>Yurgh! &nbsp;The jokes can start earlier to the east, which means we get some of them, like this one, the evening before. &nbsp;Now where did I put that eastern-time-zone dunce cap?</p><p>
It's interesting that industrialists have so thoroughly tarnished their reputations that some of us have no trouble believing they would carry out such an unwise relocation plan. &nbsp;This "joke" plan seems to fit right in with mountain top removal, CAFO, subsidies for buying giant SUVs, and dozens of other jokes which, sadly, don't seem to be very funny.</p><p>
Perhaps the fact that this plan only made it to "joke" status is a hopeful sign for them.</p><p>
:-)

<p>Hoping to be nice.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Time zones and reputations...</strong></p><p>Yurgh! &nbsp;The jokes can start earlier to the east, which means we get some of them, like this one, the evening before. &nbsp;Now where did I put that eastern-time-zone dunce cap?</p><p>
It's interesting that industrialists have so thoroughly tarnished their reputations that some of us have no trouble believing they would carry out such an unwise relocation plan. &nbsp;This "joke" plan seems to fit right in with mountain top removal, CAFO, subsidies for buying giant SUVs, and dozens of other jokes which, sadly, don't seem to be very funny.</p><p>
Perhaps the fact that this plan only made it to "joke" status is a hopeful sign for them.</p><p>
:-)

<p>Hoping to be nice.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #23 by newscloud</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:22:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I'm sure Rush will start talking about it next wk</strong></p><p>After April Fool's, this may seem like a good idea to the righties to eliminate the damn PR mess of drowning polar bearies trying to escape death by climbing up the walls of oil platforms...<br>


<p>If there is a hell, Inhofe belongs there.</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>I'm sure Rush will start talking about it next wk</strong></p><p>After April Fool's, this may seem like a good idea to the righties to eliminate the damn PR mess of drowning polar bearies trying to escape death by climbing up the walls of oil platforms...<br>


<p>If there is a hell, Inhofe belongs there.</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #24 by sungrebe2</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:37:36 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Antartic Polar Bears</strong></p><p>I don't know whether to laugh or cry that people are really serious about relocating the Polar Bears to Antartic. &nbsp;Has any one done studies on how it will impact the ecosystem in the Antartic, and the fact the the seasons are opposites in the north &amp; south poles. &nbsp;Why not spend all that money to fight oil drilling,or back politicians that are pro-life, the life of the earth. &nbsp; &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Antartic Polar Bears</strong></p><p>I don't know whether to laugh or cry that people are really serious about relocating the Polar Bears to Antartic. &nbsp;Has any one done studies on how it will impact the ecosystem in the Antartic, and the fact the the seasons are opposites in the north &amp; south poles. &nbsp;Why not spend all that money to fight oil drilling,or back politicians that are pro-life, the life of the earth. &nbsp; &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #25 by sungrebe2</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:47:13 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What a relief</strong></p><p>Boy I was had on this one, I hope!</p>
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				<p><strong>What a relief</strong></p><p>Boy I was had on this one, I hope!</p>
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            <title>Comment #26 by Catwoman</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:03:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Polar Bears</strong></p><p>When I first read this (sent to me by a relative who received it from a friend), I took it seriously. &nbsp;It almost seemed like a good idea. &nbsp;Forgive me, but I'm new to Grist, so I wasn't prepared for the joke, but then I realized that it was April 1st....OK, now I get it. &nbsp;Thanks for the neat introduction to Grist.</p>
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				<p><strong>Polar Bears</strong></p><p>When I first read this (sent to me by a relative who received it from a friend), I took it seriously. &nbsp;It almost seemed like a good idea. &nbsp;Forgive me, but I'm new to Grist, so I wasn't prepared for the joke, but then I realized that it was April 1st....OK, now I get it. &nbsp;Thanks for the neat introduction to Grist.</p>
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            <title>Comment #27 by manacker</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:01:57 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A better idea?</strong></p><p></p><p>
Well, the IPCC Bali boondoggle is over, but there will be another one at some other posh resort destination.</p><p>
My suggestion:</p><p>
Select a northern European location (not too far north, but at least in a cooler climate).</p><p>
Cordon off the resort hotel where the climate researchers are discussing the horrible consequences of and possible solutions to the imminent AGW threat.</p><p>
Introduce approximately 100 polar bears into the conference center for a friendly encounter with the IPCC scientists, politicians and bureaucrats.</p><p>
Hey folks, this is also just a (belated) April Fool's joke, so no offense intended.</p><p>
Max</p>
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				<p><strong>A better idea?</strong></p><p></p><p>
Well, the IPCC Bali boondoggle is over, but there will be another one at some other posh resort destination.</p><p>
My suggestion:</p><p>
Select a northern European location (not too far north, but at least in a cooler climate).</p><p>
Cordon off the resort hotel where the climate researchers are discussing the horrible consequences of and possible solutions to the imminent AGW threat.</p><p>
Introduce approximately 100 polar bears into the conference center for a friendly encounter with the IPCC scientists, politicians and bureaucrats.</p><p>
Hey folks, this is also just a (belated) April Fool's joke, so no offense intended.</p><p>
Max</p>
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