<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Gloom and doom with a sense of precipitation]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by sunflower http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:14:31 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/1 You should see Fox Island...

So much sky water, and firewood is falling all around the house.

Cassandra thought she had SAD and wondered about lights.  Heat from the wood fire makes her happy again.

]]> You should see Fox Island...

So much sky water, and firewood is falling all around the house.

Cassandra thought she had SAD and wondered about lights.  Heat from the wood fire makes her happy again.

]]> Comment #2 by Kate Sheppard http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:31:59 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/2 Yeah, so glad I moved here.

The Grist intern feels her soul decay more and more each day.

Kate Sheppard

]]> Yeah, so glad I moved here.

The Grist intern feels her soul decay more and more each day.

Kate Sheppard

]]> Comment #3 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:19:21 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/3 gloom; at least you have orcas

Yes, one hears so much about how the weather in Seattle is discouraging.  No wonder you all turn inwards, and drink strong coffee, and create cute websites.

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> gloom; at least you have orcas

Yes, one hears so much about how the weather in Seattle is discouraging.  No wonder you all turn inwards, and drink strong coffee, and create cute websites.

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> Comment #4 by Robert Delfs http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:23:15 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/4 I know I couldn't take it

I know it's a wonderful place,  but this is the reason I've never even considered living in the US northwest.  I get depressed when two or three days go by without good sun -  I can't even imagine what a month of dark skies and rain would do to the soul.  

I'm writing this from Hong Kong, where it's been dark and rainy since I arrived Sunday night. Despite the heavy rain, the air pollution here has been terrible. It's intensely Blade Runner-esque. Three days are enough - I can't wait to get back to Indonesia and sun.

Robert Delfs

]]> I know I couldn't take it

I know it's a wonderful place,  but this is the reason I've never even considered living in the US northwest.  I get depressed when two or three days go by without good sun -  I can't even imagine what a month of dark skies and rain would do to the soul.  

I'm writing this from Hong Kong, where it's been dark and rainy since I arrived Sunday night. Despite the heavy rain, the air pollution here has been terrible. It's intensely Blade Runner-esque. Three days are enough - I can't wait to get back to Indonesia and sun.

Robert Delfs

]]> Comment #5 by mihan http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:39:06 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/5 full spectrum

is mostly a marketing thing. What's more important is the volume of light (bright, bright light). I also suspect that the warm heat from a fire would work wonders. Not that there's any dry wood there, I'm just saying.

]]> full spectrum

is mostly a marketing thing. What's more important is the volume of light (bright, bright light). I also suspect that the warm heat from a fire would work wonders. Not that there's any dry wood there, I'm just saying.

]]> Comment #6 by kmp http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:02:39 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/6 CNY

I went to school in Syracuse and the low-hanging cloud cover from about November to April always killed me.  No rain... but lake effect snow (spitting, constant, grainy snow, every day, not a big fun storm, just relentlessly there).

My grades were lower every Spring, my sleep patterns were horrible, I skipped (more) classes, I ate poorly... one Spring semester I contracted mononucleosis.  Fun stuff.

I am convinced that my Mom has SAD, so I did a little bit of research on light boxes. There is clinical data that support that they work, not only in alleviating depresssion symptoms, but also in quantitative measures of melatonin production and in phase shifts of circadian rhythm.  However, it seems you have to actually have SAD in order for the light therapy to be of benefit - it's probably not going to cheer you up if you don't have the biochemical imbalance associated with SAD.

That being said, the boxes aren't too horribly expensive - seem to be about $200. Here's one on Amazon.  Of course, spending $200 if you don't even know you have SAD might be a bit wasteful, and you know how we pesky environmental types feel about waste.  A more economical option to try might be to pick up a copy of Winter Blues, a self-help book about dealing with SAD, or this, much more amusingly titled one, Don't Jump! a book specifically written for those living through a Northwest winter (both authors live in Seattle!).

Personally, I find there's not much in life that red wine can't cure..... organic red wine, natch.

]]> CNY

I went to school in Syracuse and the low-hanging cloud cover from about November to April always killed me.  No rain... but lake effect snow (spitting, constant, grainy snow, every day, not a big fun storm, just relentlessly there).

My grades were lower every Spring, my sleep patterns were horrible, I skipped (more) classes, I ate poorly... one Spring semester I contracted mononucleosis.  Fun stuff.

I am convinced that my Mom has SAD, so I did a little bit of research on light boxes. There is clinical data that support that they work, not only in alleviating depresssion symptoms, but also in quantitative measures of melatonin production and in phase shifts of circadian rhythm.  However, it seems you have to actually have SAD in order for the light therapy to be of benefit - it's probably not going to cheer you up if you don't have the biochemical imbalance associated with SAD.

That being said, the boxes aren't too horribly expensive - seem to be about $200. Here's one on Amazon.  Of course, spending $200 if you don't even know you have SAD might be a bit wasteful, and you know how we pesky environmental types feel about waste.  A more economical option to try might be to pick up a copy of Winter Blues, a self-help book about dealing with SAD, or this, much more amusingly titled one, Don't Jump! a book specifically written for those living through a Northwest winter (both authors live in Seattle!).

Personally, I find there's not much in life that red wine can't cure..... organic red wine, natch.

]]> Comment #7 by pbearden47 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:37:01 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/7 The sun shines in Georgia

Just want you to know - there are really good things about living in the South.

Aunt Phyllis

]]> The sun shines in Georgia

Just want you to know - there are really good things about living in the South.

Aunt Phyllis

]]> Comment #8 by atreyger http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:12:35 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/8 syracuse

Yep, that gray cloud never goes away. It was actually sunny today, too bad I'm too hung over to make it out.

]]> syracuse

Yep, that gray cloud never goes away. It was actually sunny today, too bad I'm too hung over to make it out.

]]> Comment #9 by lindaloo http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:59:38 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/9 colored light works for me

Check out the Dinshah Society webpage at http://www.dinshahhealth.org/.  This somewhat funky non-profit promotes color therapy.

I bought a theatrical-type light canister and colored gels (for about $50), and I shine different colored light on myself, while I work. It seems to improve my mood.

Dinshah thinks the full-spectrum light thing is just a scam.

lindaloo

]]> colored light works for me

Check out the Dinshah Society webpage at http://www.dinshahhealth.org/.  This somewhat funky non-profit promotes color therapy.

I bought a theatrical-type light canister and colored gels (for about $50), and I shine different colored light on myself, while I work. It seems to improve my mood.

Dinshah thinks the full-spectrum light thing is just a scam.

lindaloo

]]> Comment #10 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:04:35 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/10 It works Dave

It's that third eye stimulation.

But the wind is blowing?  Plus there is plenty of wave power (and river and ocean current) power out there.  Look on the bright side, even the cloudy NW can be powered by indirect (wind,wave and water) solar energy.

But I think for pure endorphin blues-ending stimulation, nothing beats exersize.  An hour a day keeps the need for prescription anti-depressants away! And allows one to drink beer/wine  and eat like a gourmet without getting plump.

Bike in the rain or on an electricty generating stationary bike in your home/office.  Yippee!  

(Under the full spectrum light, powered by the bike/generator, hehey)

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> It works Dave

It's that third eye stimulation.

But the wind is blowing?  Plus there is plenty of wave power (and river and ocean current) power out there.  Look on the bright side, even the cloudy NW can be powered by indirect (wind,wave and water) solar energy.

But I think for pure endorphin blues-ending stimulation, nothing beats exersize.  An hour a day keeps the need for prescription anti-depressants away! And allows one to drink beer/wine  and eat like a gourmet without getting plump.

Bike in the rain or on an electricty generating stationary bike in your home/office.  Yippee!  

(Under the full spectrum light, powered by the bike/generator, hehey)

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #11 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:14:40 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/11 "The sun shines in Georgia"

I think it did in Mordor too.  Even Sauron could not block the sun completely.

The evil lord Cheney of Halliburton can though.  Halliburton has a plan to annex the necessary orbital space  then block the sunlight that normally hits the earth with huge satelites.

Then they will charge by the square foot to restore your sunlight.

Just kiding, hehehehey.   Hope Cheney is too!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> "The sun shines in Georgia"

I think it did in Mordor too.  Even Sauron could not block the sun completely.

The evil lord Cheney of Halliburton can though.  Halliburton has a plan to annex the necessary orbital space  then block the sunlight that normally hits the earth with huge satelites.

Then they will charge by the square foot to restore your sunlight.

Just kiding, hehehehey.   Hope Cheney is too!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #12 by sunflower http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:54:02 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/12 I love the rain

Soak in the gloom while we have it.

All to soon, Northern California climate will move north to Seattle, then move to the north shore of Vancouver Island.

I pray for a hard cold clear freeze this winter.  Our trees need relief from the killer beetles.

Global warming gloom is far more depressing than Seattle rain.

P.S.  I had a question on the carbon forcing/feedback.  What causes the reverse?  What caused the carbon reduction and cooling in the ice core data?

]]> I love the rain

Soak in the gloom while we have it.

All to soon, Northern California climate will move north to Seattle, then move to the north shore of Vancouver Island.

I pray for a hard cold clear freeze this winter.  Our trees need relief from the killer beetles.

Global warming gloom is far more depressing than Seattle rain.

P.S.  I had a question on the carbon forcing/feedback.  What causes the reverse?  What caused the carbon reduction and cooling in the ice core data?

]]> Comment #13 by bookerly http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/ Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:43:27 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/gloom-and-doom-with-a-sense-of-precipitation/13 Send Us Some Rain

  Beijing would love some of your rain!  As would Northern China in general.  Actually, we are supposed to get rain or snow today and tomorrow, we hope!!

  Luckily the wind blew away the smog from earlier in the week, and it looks nice out.

  Winter is coming all across the North!!  Try to enjoy it!

patrick

]]> Send Us Some Rain

  Beijing would love some of your rain!  As would Northern China in general.  Actually, we are supposed to get rain or snow today and tomorrow, we hope!!

  Luckily the wind blew away the smog from earlier in the week, and it looks nice out.

  Winter is coming all across the North!!  Try to enjoy it!

patrick

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