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            <title>Comment #1 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:57:00 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Breakdown...</strong></p><p>...transportation emissions increased only by .1%, and with the surge in gas prices, that'll hopefully lead to a drop in emissions from transportation in 2008 as people conserve and drive less and switch from SUvs and trucks to smaller cars.</p><p>
Utility emissions increased 3%, even with the increase in renewables. &nbsp;But again, with even more renewables online this year, and utility rates goin' up and more people conserving, that'll hopefully go down.</p><p>
Industrial emissions actually dropped .1%, so that should continue in 2008 and even accelerate, given that refineries are producing less than they were in 2007 (due to drop in oil and gas demand) and the shutdown of several large manufacturing facilities (most notably, several automobile plants)</p><p>
Emissions from construction industry (not sure which category that fell under) should also taper off or go down, 'specially with the housing slump and dramatic rise in construction materials such as steel and asphalt (asphalt goin' up with oil prices), tapering demand.</p><p>
I imagine the failure of several small airlines, reductions in the number of flights in large airlines, in addition to several strategic fuel-saving measures (weight reduction, slower flight speeds, improved aircraft) along with reductions in general small-craft avation (due to gas prices) will cut down emissions from airline travel.</p><p>
The same also applies to both large shipping fleets and smaller recreational boat fleets.</p><p>
The big one is buildings. &nbsp;More than 4% increases from both residential and commercial sectors. </p><p>
The biggest hikes in terms of percentage (though not total amount of emissions). &nbsp;The only way I could see to make a sizable dent would be if the housing slump and higher energy costs start to make an impact and people improve their conservation.</p><p>
There also seems to be a slight decline in the demand for meat and several agricultural crops reliant on oil-based fertilizers and pesticides, which could slightly reduce emissions from agriculture...but that might be offset by increased ethanol production.</p><p>
...However, the housing slump and oil price surge were already prevalent last year as well (though not as dramatic), so it might not have as much of an impact as I would hope.</p><p>
Still, when the (slight) 1% overall reduction we had from 2005 to 2006 is factored in, the net increase isn't as much as I'd expect it to be. </p>
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				<p><strong>Breakdown...</strong></p><p>...transportation emissions increased only by .1%, and with the surge in gas prices, that'll hopefully lead to a drop in emissions from transportation in 2008 as people conserve and drive less and switch from SUvs and trucks to smaller cars.</p><p>
Utility emissions increased 3%, even with the increase in renewables. &nbsp;But again, with even more renewables online this year, and utility rates goin' up and more people conserving, that'll hopefully go down.</p><p>
Industrial emissions actually dropped .1%, so that should continue in 2008 and even accelerate, given that refineries are producing less than they were in 2007 (due to drop in oil and gas demand) and the shutdown of several large manufacturing facilities (most notably, several automobile plants)</p><p>
Emissions from construction industry (not sure which category that fell under) should also taper off or go down, 'specially with the housing slump and dramatic rise in construction materials such as steel and asphalt (asphalt goin' up with oil prices), tapering demand.</p><p>
I imagine the failure of several small airlines, reductions in the number of flights in large airlines, in addition to several strategic fuel-saving measures (weight reduction, slower flight speeds, improved aircraft) along with reductions in general small-craft avation (due to gas prices) will cut down emissions from airline travel.</p><p>
The same also applies to both large shipping fleets and smaller recreational boat fleets.</p><p>
The big one is buildings. &nbsp;More than 4% increases from both residential and commercial sectors. </p><p>
The biggest hikes in terms of percentage (though not total amount of emissions). &nbsp;The only way I could see to make a sizable dent would be if the housing slump and higher energy costs start to make an impact and people improve their conservation.</p><p>
There also seems to be a slight decline in the demand for meat and several agricultural crops reliant on oil-based fertilizers and pesticides, which could slightly reduce emissions from agriculture...but that might be offset by increased ethanol production.</p><p>
...However, the housing slump and oil price surge were already prevalent last year as well (though not as dramatic), so it might not have as much of an impact as I would hope.</p><p>
Still, when the (slight) 1% overall reduction we had from 2005 to 2006 is factored in, the net increase isn't as much as I'd expect it to be. </p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by enki</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:04:13 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Graph from Nature<p>Here is a <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7193/fig_tab/453291a_F1.html" rel="nofollow">link to a graph of CO2, Methane and temperature levels on the Earth for the last 800,000 years. Pretty interesting.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Graph from Nature<p>Here is a <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7193/fig_tab/453291a_F1.html" rel="nofollow">link to a graph of CO2, Methane and temperature levels on the Earth for the last 800,000 years. Pretty interesting.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:33:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Waxman at Fault</strong></p><p><br>
Must be all those energy inefficient mansions in Waxman's district.</p><p>
What's their energy usage per person? &nbsp; </p><p>
Doesn't Grist have DiCaprio's cell?</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Waxman at Fault</strong></p><p><br>
Must be all those energy inefficient mansions in Waxman's district.</p><p>
What's their energy usage per person? &nbsp; </p><p>
Doesn't Grist have DiCaprio's cell?</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by BlackBear</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:48:25 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Agribizz</strong></p><p>I'm wondering out loud if rising fuel prices are reducing the driving done in the U.S., if this might also have an effect on agribizz.</p><p>
Consider: Agriculture is the second largest producer of greenhouse gases after electricity production. If rising fuel prices hit agribizz (as &nbsp;the rising prices of meat, milk, eggs, and bread suggests) then will this perhaps cause a downturn in our consumption of those products and reduce the emissions from the agriculture sector as well?</p><p>
Wouldn't this have a bigger impact on our atmosphere since we're talking about a bigger chunk of the total? If we can't 'reason' folks into consuming fewer animal products to protect their environment, perhaps we can price it out of them.</p>
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				<p><strong>Agribizz</strong></p><p>I'm wondering out loud if rising fuel prices are reducing the driving done in the U.S., if this might also have an effect on agribizz.</p><p>
Consider: Agriculture is the second largest producer of greenhouse gases after electricity production. If rising fuel prices hit agribizz (as &nbsp;the rising prices of meat, milk, eggs, and bread suggests) then will this perhaps cause a downturn in our consumption of those products and reduce the emissions from the agriculture sector as well?</p><p>
Wouldn't this have a bigger impact on our atmosphere since we're talking about a bigger chunk of the total? If we can't 'reason' folks into consuming fewer animal products to protect their environment, perhaps we can price it out of them.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:27:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>You Deny the Beaver!<p>Oregon...the Beaver State.<p>
Home of the Oregon Petition.<p>
32,000 thousand seasoned scientists...all Deniers!<p>
Yet Grist Ecologists turn a blind eye!<p>
How could they?!?<p>
32,000 deniers<p>
That's the number of scientists who are outraged by the Kyoto Protocol's corruption of science<br>
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<a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/05/17/32-000-deniers.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archiv ...</a></p></br></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>You Deny the Beaver!<p>Oregon...the Beaver State.<p>
Home of the Oregon Petition.<p>
32,000 thousand seasoned scientists...all Deniers!<p>
Yet Grist Ecologists turn a blind eye!<p>
How could they?!?<p>
32,000 deniers<p>
That's the number of scientists who are outraged by the Kyoto Protocol's corruption of science<br>
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<a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/05/17/32-000-deniers.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archiv ...</a></p></br></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 11:53:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>And a &quot;scientist&quot; is?...</strong></p><p>32,000 thousand seasoned scientists...all Deniers!</p><p>
What, exactly, do they consider a "scientist"?</p><p>
I couldn't help but notice that there was a category listing where they listed their field of expertise.</p><p>
Just how many put down "climatology" or "biologist" or "earth sciences" in that little spot?</p><p>
'Cause really, 32,000 gynecologists, engineers at automobile manufacturers, geologists at oil companies, and some lumberjacks with forestry degrees may claim themselves to be scientists, but that don't mean they hold a candle to people who actually do research in the contested field of study.</p>
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				<p><strong>And a &quot;scientist&quot; is?...</strong></p><p>32,000 thousand seasoned scientists...all Deniers!</p><p>
What, exactly, do they consider a "scientist"?</p><p>
I couldn't help but notice that there was a category listing where they listed their field of expertise.</p><p>
Just how many put down "climatology" or "biologist" or "earth sciences" in that little spot?</p><p>
'Cause really, 32,000 gynecologists, engineers at automobile manufacturers, geologists at oil companies, and some lumberjacks with forestry degrees may claim themselves to be scientists, but that don't mean they hold a candle to people who actually do research in the contested field of study.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by snedunuri</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:55:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Interesting</strong></p><p>32,000 thousand seasoned scientists...all Deniers!</p><p>
There's about 32,000 rednecks in the backwoods of Oregon. Coincidence? I think not.</p>
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				<p><strong>Interesting</strong></p><p>32,000 thousand seasoned scientists...all Deniers!</p><p>
There's about 32,000 rednecks in the backwoods of Oregon. Coincidence? I think not.</p>
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