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            <title>Comment #1 by gillo</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:32:25 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The party *is* about you</strong></p><p>As Grist is, in many ways, representing the enviro-activist community. We should all jump up and down, congrats Chip!</p>
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				<p><strong>The party *is* about you</strong></p><p>As Grist is, in many ways, representing the enviro-activist community. We should all jump up and down, congrats Chip!</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Emily Gertz</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:31:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What We Were Eating<p>One detail that didn't make it into the dispatch was the menu at l'affaire Vanity Fair. &nbsp;The all-vegan, raw-food nibbles might have made a red-blooded disciple of Ed Abbey weep, but they were colorful and very tasty. <p>
Here are the deets from caterer <a href="http://www.purefoodandwine.com" rel="nofollow">Pure Food and Wine in all their obsessive natural foodie glory:<p>
Vanity Fair Menu:<p>
A fresh seasonal menu of plant-based organic foods free of dairy, soy, and&#160;processed sugars all prepared under 118 degrees to retain the essential nutrients, enzymes and vitamins.<p>
-Marinated Shiitake and Avocado Sushi Rolls (with a rice made of jicima and pine nuts) with<br>
pink pickled ginger, sesame, and dulse (sea vegetable)<p>
-Baby Fennel and Red Shiso Tarts with Almond Crust and a Black Truffle Cream<p>
-Spicy Thai Lettuce Wraps with Mango, Savoy Cabbage and Tamarind Chili Sauce<p>
-Creamy Cauliflower Samosas with Banana Tamarind Sauce, Mango Chutney, Garam Masala, Mint<p>
-Watermelon Radish Summer Rolls with Sesame Dipping Sauce<p>
-Dark Chocolate Layer Cakes with a "Milk Chocolate" Mousse and Chocolate Sauce<p>
Cocktail Menu:<p>
-Cu-tini: fresh cucumber juice mixed with mint, agave nectar, and vodka topped off with fresh grapefruit juice and a cucumber garnish.<p>
-Acai Tini: &nbsp;Acai Berry (brazillian berry with notes of blueberry, pomegranate and chocolate) juice, agave nectar, lemon juice and vodka<p>
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				<p><strong>What We Were Eating<p>One detail that didn't make it into the dispatch was the menu at l'affaire Vanity Fair. &nbsp;The all-vegan, raw-food nibbles might have made a red-blooded disciple of Ed Abbey weep, but they were colorful and very tasty. <p>
Here are the deets from caterer <a href="http://www.purefoodandwine.com" rel="nofollow">Pure Food and Wine in all their obsessive natural foodie glory:<p>
Vanity Fair Menu:<p>
A fresh seasonal menu of plant-based organic foods free of dairy, soy, and&#160;processed sugars all prepared under 118 degrees to retain the essential nutrients, enzymes and vitamins.<p>
-Marinated Shiitake and Avocado Sushi Rolls (with a rice made of jicima and pine nuts) with<br>
pink pickled ginger, sesame, and dulse (sea vegetable)<p>
-Baby Fennel and Red Shiso Tarts with Almond Crust and a Black Truffle Cream<p>
-Spicy Thai Lettuce Wraps with Mango, Savoy Cabbage and Tamarind Chili Sauce<p>
-Creamy Cauliflower Samosas with Banana Tamarind Sauce, Mango Chutney, Garam Masala, Mint<p>
-Watermelon Radish Summer Rolls with Sesame Dipping Sauce<p>
-Dark Chocolate Layer Cakes with a "Milk Chocolate" Mousse and Chocolate Sauce<p>
Cocktail Menu:<p>
-Cu-tini: fresh cucumber juice mixed with mint, agave nectar, and vodka topped off with fresh grapefruit juice and a cucumber garnish.<p>
-Acai Tini: &nbsp;Acai Berry (brazillian berry with notes of blueberry, pomegranate and chocolate) juice, agave nectar, lemon juice and vodka<p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:42:02 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Thanks for the Menu</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The menu is lovely, and just goes to show that the rich truly are different!!! &nbsp;Sigh, it made me hungry and I am trying to diet...</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;It also made me wonder what they were serving in nearby soup kitchens that night...</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;(Wanting to keep the contradictions in mind!) (smile)</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Thanks for the Menu</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The menu is lovely, and just goes to show that the rich truly are different!!! &nbsp;Sigh, it made me hungry and I am trying to diet...</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;It also made me wonder what they were serving in nearby soup kitchens that night...</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;(Wanting to keep the contradictions in mind!) (smile)</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by David Roberts</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:42:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yum!</strong></p><p></p>
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				<p><strong>Yum!</strong></p><p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Emily Gertz</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:48:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Contradictions</strong></p><p>Bookerly, occasionally living in NYC reminds me of London-a-la-Dickens -- with people sleeping on grates steps from some of the nicest restaurants in town. &nbsp;But I still think the majority of folks here (there being life beyond Manhattan, you see) are struggling somewhere in the broad middle.</p>
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				<p><strong>Contradictions</strong></p><p>Bookerly, occasionally living in NYC reminds me of London-a-la-Dickens -- with people sleeping on grates steps from some of the nicest restaurants in town. &nbsp;But I still think the majority of folks here (there being life beyond Manhattan, you see) are struggling somewhere in the broad middle.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Tom Philpott</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:58:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>All-vegan extravanganza</strong></p><p>The menu sounds fabulous, and not cooking is actually a lot trickier than cooking. Much respect to Pure Food. </p><p>
I have to point out that, though, that from my experience, NY raw food organic fanatics can be nearly as clueless as McDonald's eaters about where there food comes from. If all of those veggies were of the quality I imagine they were, they likely grew in rich beds of well-composted animal manure. That's all. Wish i had been there. </p>
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				<p><strong>All-vegan extravanganza</strong></p><p>The menu sounds fabulous, and not cooking is actually a lot trickier than cooking. Much respect to Pure Food. </p><p>
I have to point out that, though, that from my experience, NY raw food organic fanatics can be nearly as clueless as McDonald's eaters about where there food comes from. If all of those veggies were of the quality I imagine they were, they likely grew in rich beds of well-composted animal manure. That's all. Wish i had been there. </p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:23:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Dear Emily</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; You are absolutely correct! &nbsp;I have many friends in NYC, and actually love the city. &nbsp;It is a great place, and I don't really begrudge people the right to indulge from time to time....</p><p>
&nbsp; But I always want to remember the contradictions!<br>
(And I have them too in my life.) (smile)</p><p>
&nbsp; Umm, next time, you can send a doggie bag to Beijing, I wouldn't mind.</p><p>
&nbsp; BTW, there are some fantastic vegetarian restaurants here, and the number of them is increasing, and they are growing in popularity. &nbsp;Many of them try to use as much organic produce as they can (which makes them a bit pricier). &nbsp;</p><p>
patrick</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Dear Emily</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; You are absolutely correct! &nbsp;I have many friends in NYC, and actually love the city. &nbsp;It is a great place, and I don't really begrudge people the right to indulge from time to time....</p><p>
&nbsp; But I always want to remember the contradictions!<br>
(And I have them too in my life.) (smile)</p><p>
&nbsp; Umm, next time, you can send a doggie bag to Beijing, I wouldn't mind.</p><p>
&nbsp; BTW, there are some fantastic vegetarian restaurants here, and the number of them is increasing, and they are growing in popularity. &nbsp;Many of them try to use as much organic produce as they can (which makes them a bit pricier). &nbsp;</p><p>
patrick</br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:54:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Contrast</strong></p><p>The image of land fill salvage gangs in China makes a great contrast to the party menu Patrick.</p><p>
The king of plastic trash bag recycling at one chinese mega city landfill said he was living and working in the trash (against the wishes of the austrailian company that manages it) in order to put his children through school. A communist nation without public education, go figure?</p><p>
He made 7 times as much as he could with a regular factory job there. &nbsp;From plastic bags!</p><p>
Keep up the glamour Grist staff. &nbsp;That may be the only way to make the eco-fight popular. &nbsp;we don't hate you because you are beautiful, wealthy, successful, and popular. &nbsp;Honest, hehehey.</p>
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				<p><strong>Contrast</strong></p><p>The image of land fill salvage gangs in China makes a great contrast to the party menu Patrick.</p><p>
The king of plastic trash bag recycling at one chinese mega city landfill said he was living and working in the trash (against the wishes of the austrailian company that manages it) in order to put his children through school. A communist nation without public education, go figure?</p><p>
He made 7 times as much as he could with a regular factory job there. &nbsp;From plastic bags!</p><p>
Keep up the glamour Grist staff. &nbsp;That may be the only way to make the eco-fight popular. &nbsp;we don't hate you because you are beautiful, wealthy, successful, and popular. &nbsp;Honest, hehehey.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:58:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Landfill link<p><p><a href="http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60A13FD38540C708CDDAD0894DE404482" rel="nofollow">http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html ...<p>You need to pay the 50 bucks to NYT "select" for this one, whoops too slow on posting it within the "free" time frame. &nbsp;Sorry.</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Landfill link<p><p><a href="http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60A13FD38540C708CDDAD0894DE404482" rel="nofollow">http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html ...<p>You need to pay the 50 bucks to NYT "select" for this one, whoops too slow on posting it within the "free" time frame. &nbsp;Sorry.</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:34:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Public Education in China</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;China is a developing country. &nbsp;That means roughly that it has less money than developed countries. &nbsp;Which means that free cradle to grave anything is not not affordable. &nbsp;There is a certain amount of free education available, but many Chinese families sacrifice (this may not be a word Americans understand) in order to give their children educational extras. &nbsp;And there are places where what should be free isn't.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; BTW, the idea of land fill salvage gangs should appeal to us. &nbsp;we might think of them as "recyclers". &nbsp;We could hange the negative word "gang" (meanlingless here) to team and think about it. &nbsp;We might also look at people pushing shopping carts full of bottles on American streets for any of who think getting our hands dirty is a bad idea.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I travel frequently past a local dump/go through it area, and watch people "rescue" items that can be re-used. &nbsp;It's not a bad thing.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; China has opened most of it's markets up, and is working on the rest (while trying to create 10 million jobs a year and deal with income discrepancies). &nbsp;That is what allows people recycling to make money (they are small business people, entreprenuers).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Umm, I personally don't have enough money to pay New York Times Select anything, much less 50 bucks. &nbsp;So, I can't comment on the accuracy of the report. &nbsp;The CSM has some of the dumbest reporting on China (the articles I have seen) and the WPost usually suggests the whole place will fall apart any minute (without quite saying so!).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Last night I gave a lecture on American culture at an ultramodern beautiful new campus on the outskirts of Beijing. &nbsp;The students were bright, and knew a lot more about America than most Americans know about China (they watch Donald Trump's show on TV at night (I had to tell them I have never seen it)).</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Public Education in China</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;China is a developing country. &nbsp;That means roughly that it has less money than developed countries. &nbsp;Which means that free cradle to grave anything is not not affordable. &nbsp;There is a certain amount of free education available, but many Chinese families sacrifice (this may not be a word Americans understand) in order to give their children educational extras. &nbsp;And there are places where what should be free isn't.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; BTW, the idea of land fill salvage gangs should appeal to us. &nbsp;we might think of them as "recyclers". &nbsp;We could hange the negative word "gang" (meanlingless here) to team and think about it. &nbsp;We might also look at people pushing shopping carts full of bottles on American streets for any of who think getting our hands dirty is a bad idea.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I travel frequently past a local dump/go through it area, and watch people "rescue" items that can be re-used. &nbsp;It's not a bad thing.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; China has opened most of it's markets up, and is working on the rest (while trying to create 10 million jobs a year and deal with income discrepancies). &nbsp;That is what allows people recycling to make money (they are small business people, entreprenuers).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Umm, I personally don't have enough money to pay New York Times Select anything, much less 50 bucks. &nbsp;So, I can't comment on the accuracy of the report. &nbsp;The CSM has some of the dumbest reporting on China (the articles I have seen) and the WPost usually suggests the whole place will fall apart any minute (without quite saying so!).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Last night I gave a lecture on American culture at an ultramodern beautiful new campus on the outskirts of Beijing. &nbsp;The students were bright, and knew a lot more about America than most Americans know about China (they watch Donald Trump's show on TV at night (I had to tell them I have never seen it)).</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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