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            <title>Comment #1 by James Hrynyshyn</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:45:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Inuit and climate change</strong></p><p>I sympathize with the plight of the Inuit. They are losing not just their way of life, but the very place they call home. Still, there is a certain degree of hypocrisy associated with a lawsuit against the world's largest source of climate-changing emissions. Inuit are among the biggest users, per capita, of fossil fuels, due in part to their extreme climate, but also due to their failure to embrace alternative sources of fuel.</p><p>
As Sheila Watt-Cloutier points out, no one is more familiar with the effects of climate change than the Inuit. And yet, they have done nothing to take advantage of new clea-energy technologies that, while still prohibitively expensive in the South, are more than economically attractive in the remote off-the-grid communities of Nunavut and other Inuit homelands.</p><p>
The Inuit case could only benefit if they cleaned up their own act first. While their numbers are too small to make a global difference to the climate, freeing themselves from fossil-fuel dependence would go a long way toward claiming the high ground, as it were, but it melts.</p><p>
James Hrynyshyn<br>
blog: islandofdoubt.net<br>
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				<p><strong>Inuit and climate change</strong></p><p>I sympathize with the plight of the Inuit. They are losing not just their way of life, but the very place they call home. Still, there is a certain degree of hypocrisy associated with a lawsuit against the world's largest source of climate-changing emissions. Inuit are among the biggest users, per capita, of fossil fuels, due in part to their extreme climate, but also due to their failure to embrace alternative sources of fuel.</p><p>
As Sheila Watt-Cloutier points out, no one is more familiar with the effects of climate change than the Inuit. And yet, they have done nothing to take advantage of new clea-energy technologies that, while still prohibitively expensive in the South, are more than economically attractive in the remote off-the-grid communities of Nunavut and other Inuit homelands.</p><p>
The Inuit case could only benefit if they cleaned up their own act first. While their numbers are too small to make a global difference to the climate, freeing themselves from fossil-fuel dependence would go a long way toward claiming the high ground, as it were, but it melts.</p><p>
James Hrynyshyn<br>
blog: islandofdoubt.net<br>
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            <title>Comment #2 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:17:59 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Good for them.</strong></p><p>Their whole ecosystem is at risk from CO2 emmission.</p>
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				<p><strong>Good for them.</strong></p><p>Their whole ecosystem is at risk from CO2 emmission.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Emily Gertz</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/gertz-inuit/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:30:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>How much more of a moral high ground do they need?<p>Thanks for the comment, James. &nbsp;While I was researching the article, I did come across a mention here or there -- might have been in the Nunavut regional press -- about Inuit reconsidering the use of snowmobiles as part of their own growing awareness of how global warming threatens to wipe out their culture.<p>
But, as Dave has <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2005/7/14/125719/754" rel="nofollow">ably argued, evil, not hypocrisy, is the problem. &nbsp;Perfect heroes are awfully nice for setting one's moral compass by, but the Inuit are human beings, too, who are facing a lot more upheaval right now -- essentially for just being who they are, an indigenous people of the Arctic Circle -- than almost anyone in the countries that are leading the way in causing global warming.</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>How much more of a moral high ground do they need?<p>Thanks for the comment, James. &nbsp;While I was researching the article, I did come across a mention here or there -- might have been in the Nunavut regional press -- about Inuit reconsidering the use of snowmobiles as part of their own growing awareness of how global warming threatens to wipe out their culture.<p>
But, as Dave has <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2005/7/14/125719/754" rel="nofollow">ably argued, evil, not hypocrisy, is the problem. &nbsp;Perfect heroes are awfully nice for setting one's moral compass by, but the Inuit are human beings, too, who are facing a lot more upheaval right now -- essentially for just being who they are, an indigenous people of the Arctic Circle -- than almost anyone in the countries that are leading the way in causing global warming.</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by memary10</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:18:59 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>We are all in this together</strong></p><p>The other day I read in our local newspaper that there is a crisis along the Pacific Coast. &nbsp;Because the North Wind did not blow down the coast this year there was no upwelling of cooler water along the coast and the zooplanktons have died from a 7+ degree rise in water temperature. &nbsp;As a result there are no feeder fish for the species up the food chain and masses of sea birds have died. Along the Atlantic Coast carcasses of seldom seen rare dolphins and other denzins of the deep litter the beaches in mass strandings. Climatologists have told us these will be the signs that we are at the point of no return and the oceans are dying. If the oceans die, we die as a species. Meanwhile, our president has his minions revising environmental reports to hide what is happening. We can run but we can't hide from this impending disaster. What is happening in the Arctic is just a sample of things to come...</p>
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				<p><strong>We are all in this together</strong></p><p>The other day I read in our local newspaper that there is a crisis along the Pacific Coast. &nbsp;Because the North Wind did not blow down the coast this year there was no upwelling of cooler water along the coast and the zooplanktons have died from a 7+ degree rise in water temperature. &nbsp;As a result there are no feeder fish for the species up the food chain and masses of sea birds have died. Along the Atlantic Coast carcasses of seldom seen rare dolphins and other denzins of the deep litter the beaches in mass strandings. Climatologists have told us these will be the signs that we are at the point of no return and the oceans are dying. If the oceans die, we die as a species. Meanwhile, our president has his minions revising environmental reports to hide what is happening. We can run but we can't hide from this impending disaster. What is happening in the Arctic is just a sample of things to come...</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by dreadsword</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/gertz-inuit/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:47:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Competitive Enterprise Institute<p>Thanks for the great article, Emily. You might find the Competitive Enterprise Institute's writing on the Inuit case an interesting read, have a look:<p>
<a href="http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,04401.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,04401.cfm<p>
My own thoughts are here:<br>
<a href="http://www.sustainabilityzone.com/comments.php?load_this=134" rel="nofollow">http://www.sustainabilityzone.com/comments.php?load_this=134</a></br></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Competitive Enterprise Institute<p>Thanks for the great article, Emily. You might find the Competitive Enterprise Institute's writing on the Inuit case an interesting read, have a look:<p>
<a href="http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,04401.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,04401.cfm<p>
My own thoughts are here:<br>
<a href="http://www.sustainabilityzone.com/comments.php?load_this=134" rel="nofollow">http://www.sustainabilityzone.com/comments.php?load_this=134</a></br></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:41:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Look out Cato!<p>Neo-libertarianism, a growth industry!<p>
"The Competitive Enterprise Institute is a non-profit public policy organization dedicated to advancing the principles of free enterprise and limited government. We believe that individuals are best helped not by government intervention, but by making their own choices in a free marketplace. Since its founding in 1984, CEI has grown into a $3,000,000 institution with a team of over 20 policy experts and other staff."<p>
<a href="http://www.cei.org/pages/about.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cei.org/pages/about.cfm<br>
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				<p><strong>Look out Cato!<p>Neo-libertarianism, a growth industry!<p>
"The Competitive Enterprise Institute is a non-profit public policy organization dedicated to advancing the principles of free enterprise and limited government. We believe that individuals are best helped not by government intervention, but by making their own choices in a free marketplace. Since its founding in 1984, CEI has grown into a $3,000,000 institution with a team of over 20 policy experts and other staff."<p>
<a href="http://www.cei.org/pages/about.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cei.org/pages/about.cfm<br>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:43:43 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Great comments dreads!</strong></p><p>Nice blogging!! &nbsp;Onward!!</p>
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				<p><strong>Great comments dreads!</strong></p><p>Nice blogging!! &nbsp;Onward!!</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by dreadsword</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:28:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Cheers!</strong></p><p>Thanks amazingdrx!</p>
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				<p><strong>Cheers!</strong></p><p>Thanks amazingdrx!</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Storm Dragon</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:27:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It;s time to wake up, and feel the heat</strong></p><p>Amazingly, some people still hold the simplistic view that global warming is a good thing for humanity. The situation in the Arctic, and the plight of the inhabitants of Tuvalu, are powerful statements to the contrary. And we needn't think that we in the U.S., with all our power, wealth and technological know-how, will be spared any trouble and inconvenience. &nbsp;We are all in this together, and we all need to work together. </p>
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				<p><strong>It;s time to wake up, and feel the heat</strong></p><p>Amazingly, some people still hold the simplistic view that global warming is a good thing for humanity. The situation in the Arctic, and the plight of the inhabitants of Tuvalu, are powerful statements to the contrary. And we needn't think that we in the U.S., with all our power, wealth and technological know-how, will be spared any trouble and inconvenience. &nbsp;We are all in this together, and we all need to work together. </p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by amazingdrx</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/gertz-inuit/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:40:57 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yep, heard it.</strong></p><p>"...some people still hold the simplistic view that global warming is a good thing for humanity"</p><p>
My favorite example of this is the wing nut environmental taunt that then the oil tankers will have a shorter trip across the arctic ocean, once the ice is gone. &nbsp;</p><p>
Hehey, those darn fundamentalist lunatics.</p><p>
I tell 'em they can heat their trailers for free with nuke-you-ler waste, neehawww.</p>
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				<p><strong>Yep, heard it.</strong></p><p>"...some people still hold the simplistic view that global warming is a good thing for humanity"</p><p>
My favorite example of this is the wing nut environmental taunt that then the oil tankers will have a shorter trip across the arctic ocean, once the ice is gone. &nbsp;</p><p>
Hehey, those darn fundamentalist lunatics.</p><p>
I tell 'em they can heat their trailers for free with nuke-you-ler waste, neehawww.</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by Emily Gertz</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:54:38 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tobacco suits? feh.</strong></p><p>Heya dreads -- Yep, saw that CEI article; I think we link to it from mine. &nbsp;Responding to what you posted on sustainablog: I hate to spare many pixels entertaining CEI-style hacks of legal reason, but here is the reason this bears little resemblance to the tobacco suits: &nbsp;It involves international human rights law, and the right of an indigenous people to live according to its traditional culture and lifestyle. &nbsp;Not that this is always respected by others, but it's an established facet of the international human rights system.</p><p>
Casting the Inuit as graspers at potentially lucrative legal restitution is of a piece with demanding they resolve all the internal conflicts of their modern-day lifestyles before taking action on global warming (while we go on existing within ours): beside the point. &nbsp;Sure, individuals have individual motivations, which I can't speak to based on this article. &nbsp;But if you look at the history of the ICC, you'll see a group that has been active on the political stage on behalf of the Inuit as a people for some time.<br>
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				<p><strong>Tobacco suits? feh.</strong></p><p>Heya dreads -- Yep, saw that CEI article; I think we link to it from mine. &nbsp;Responding to what you posted on sustainablog: I hate to spare many pixels entertaining CEI-style hacks of legal reason, but here is the reason this bears little resemblance to the tobacco suits: &nbsp;It involves international human rights law, and the right of an indigenous people to live according to its traditional culture and lifestyle. &nbsp;Not that this is always respected by others, but it's an established facet of the international human rights system.</p><p>
Casting the Inuit as graspers at potentially lucrative legal restitution is of a piece with demanding they resolve all the internal conflicts of their modern-day lifestyles before taking action on global warming (while we go on existing within ours): beside the point. &nbsp;Sure, individuals have individual motivations, which I can't speak to based on this article. &nbsp;But if you look at the history of the ICC, you'll see a group that has been active on the political stage on behalf of the Inuit as a people for some time.<br>
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            <title>Comment #12 by dreadsword</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 05:03:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Heh - whoops!</strong></p><p>Yes, you did indeed link to another version of that article with your Chris Horner link - missed it first go around. Just want you to know that I'm not trying to take uncredited snipes of your links!</p><p>
Anyway, yes, agreed that the tobacco/climate change comparison is spurious at best - just knee-jerk right-wing rhetoric.</p>
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				<p><strong>Heh - whoops!</strong></p><p>Yes, you did indeed link to another version of that article with your Chris Horner link - missed it first go around. Just want you to know that I'm not trying to take uncredited snipes of your links!</p><p>
Anyway, yes, agreed that the tobacco/climate change comparison is spurious at best - just knee-jerk right-wing rhetoric.</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by starbuck</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:36:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Getting tired of Sheila Watt-Cloutier's Bullshit</strong></p><p>Sheila Watt-Cloutier's contention that US greenhouse gass emissions are violating Inuit human rights is a bloody joke. Does Watt-Cloutier think India, China and Russia (just to name a few other global polluters) get their power from teams of monkeys running on treadmills? Obvious her self-righteous stance and perhaps limited intellect leaves her vulnerable to the trend of America-bashing that's all the rage these days, because surely the greenhouse gas spewing from her Inuit brothers' and sisters' diesel heated homes, diesel generated electricital plants, gas burning snowmobiles and diesel/gas burning pickup trucks contribute nothing to overall global climate change... what a hypocrite.</p>
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				<p><strong>Getting tired of Sheila Watt-Cloutier's Bullshit</strong></p><p>Sheila Watt-Cloutier's contention that US greenhouse gass emissions are violating Inuit human rights is a bloody joke. Does Watt-Cloutier think India, China and Russia (just to name a few other global polluters) get their power from teams of monkeys running on treadmills? Obvious her self-righteous stance and perhaps limited intellect leaves her vulnerable to the trend of America-bashing that's all the rage these days, because surely the greenhouse gas spewing from her Inuit brothers' and sisters' diesel heated homes, diesel generated electricital plants, gas burning snowmobiles and diesel/gas burning pickup trucks contribute nothing to overall global climate change... what a hypocrite.</p>
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