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            <title>Comment #1 by sunflower</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:39:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Dan Worth, you're priceless!<p>You revolution speak. &nbsp;Most excellent. &nbsp;We need leaders, fighters, and ideas. &nbsp;Some free thoughts on action...<p>
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				<p><strong>Dan Worth, you're priceless!<p>You revolution speak. &nbsp;Most excellent. &nbsp;We need leaders, fighters, and ideas. &nbsp;Some free thoughts on action...<p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by mrs gottfried</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:59:56 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>is 36 too old to join?</strong></p><p>I was so happy to read this post. &nbsp;I have recently moved to FL to build a green house from scratch. &nbsp;We visited the Edison Ford Winter Estates in Ft. Myers to look at the old florida style. Anyway, they have a great museum etc. with pictures of Edison, Ford, Firestone and President Harding sitting out on one of their weekend camping trips in the wilderness. &nbsp;It ocurred to me what a different future we could potentially have now if our president spent intimate time with today's top green/sustainable innovators, inventors etc. &nbsp;The irony was also outstanding as it jumped out that these guys were hard core nature lovers. &nbsp;Their own homes were built for most part passive sustainable as old florida homes had to be to exist comfortably with nature. &nbsp;The larger point is that they weren't just solving energy needs for a country but they were setting up the reliance on a corporate/government infrastructure that remains today and comes in handy when you have things like wars. &nbsp;For those guys it was WWII and all sorts of nifty innovations could help us win it. Another interesting point was that Edison praised Ford's gas powered car over his own electric version feeling it was an inferior invention. &nbsp;I believe this generation's great, green minds are out there but there is no real IN where it would really change the country. &nbsp;I will still try to do my part though. &nbsp;The thought is I believe what you are suggesting, if the right people get together the apple cart will upset. &nbsp;Didn't do this justice really but I think you get my point. &nbsp;There so much more common sense along these lines also as far as keeping the US competitive. &nbsp;I've become fascinated with how easy change looks on paper. &nbsp;As if it could really happen and a real revolution could begin. &nbsp;Something's gotta give soon right? &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>is 36 too old to join?</strong></p><p>I was so happy to read this post. &nbsp;I have recently moved to FL to build a green house from scratch. &nbsp;We visited the Edison Ford Winter Estates in Ft. Myers to look at the old florida style. Anyway, they have a great museum etc. with pictures of Edison, Ford, Firestone and President Harding sitting out on one of their weekend camping trips in the wilderness. &nbsp;It ocurred to me what a different future we could potentially have now if our president spent intimate time with today's top green/sustainable innovators, inventors etc. &nbsp;The irony was also outstanding as it jumped out that these guys were hard core nature lovers. &nbsp;Their own homes were built for most part passive sustainable as old florida homes had to be to exist comfortably with nature. &nbsp;The larger point is that they weren't just solving energy needs for a country but they were setting up the reliance on a corporate/government infrastructure that remains today and comes in handy when you have things like wars. &nbsp;For those guys it was WWII and all sorts of nifty innovations could help us win it. Another interesting point was that Edison praised Ford's gas powered car over his own electric version feeling it was an inferior invention. &nbsp;I believe this generation's great, green minds are out there but there is no real IN where it would really change the country. &nbsp;I will still try to do my part though. &nbsp;The thought is I believe what you are suggesting, if the right people get together the apple cart will upset. &nbsp;Didn't do this justice really but I think you get my point. &nbsp;There so much more common sense along these lines also as far as keeping the US competitive. &nbsp;I've become fascinated with how easy change looks on paper. &nbsp;As if it could really happen and a real revolution could begin. &nbsp;Something's gotta give soon right? &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by wedjr</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:22:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>x y transition<p>Hey Dan,<br>So cool you're posting here.<br>Being a late boomer, the gen x y thing always sort of confused me. So I went to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y" rel="nofollow">wiki and found that "If the years 1978-2000 are used, as is common in market research, then the size of Generation Y in the United States is approximately 76 million." Gen X has always been more difficult for me to figure, but somehow it included punkers, slackers, and others severely disaffected by my g-g-g-generation's inability to keep their marriages together or their greed in check.<br>But the point is that there's tons of evidence to suggest that today's twenty-somethings and teens are reawakening the over-35's belief that things can and must change and it's all about the climate challenge, yet another boomer legacy ('cause there's no denying what we knew, when we knew it, and how little we did). <br>Dr. James Martin (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Martin_(author)" rel="nofollow">wiki again) gets past the x's and y's to call the global generation under 35 the "transition generation", saying simply "if they don't get it right, we don't have a planet." No surprise then that many of my old-folk peers are recognizing your generation's challenge and trying to help as we can. In solidarity.</a></br></br></a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>x y transition<p>Hey Dan,<br>So cool you're posting here.<br>Being a late boomer, the gen x y thing always sort of confused me. So I went to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y" rel="nofollow">wiki and found that "If the years 1978-2000 are used, as is common in market research, then the size of Generation Y in the United States is approximately 76 million." Gen X has always been more difficult for me to figure, but somehow it included punkers, slackers, and others severely disaffected by my g-g-g-generation's inability to keep their marriages together or their greed in check.<br>But the point is that there's tons of evidence to suggest that today's twenty-somethings and teens are reawakening the over-35's belief that things can and must change and it's all about the climate challenge, yet another boomer legacy ('cause there's no denying what we knew, when we knew it, and how little we did). <br>Dr. James Martin (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Martin_(author)" rel="nofollow">wiki again) gets past the x's and y's to call the global generation under 35 the "transition generation", saying simply "if they don't get it right, we don't have a planet." No surprise then that many of my old-folk peers are recognizing your generation's challenge and trying to help as we can. In solidarity.</a></br></br></a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:59:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Pit</strong></p><p>Brad Pit's much publicized green building contest for New Orleans is a small start. &nbsp;</p><p>
The news folk try to ridicule his effort, but when they cover it the satire falls kind of flat.</p><p>
But why aren't the billions made in the internet revolution, Gate's portion now turned to charity, being applied to the battle?</p><p>
Assault the bastions of the energy monopolists with mass production of renewable energy producing and consuming products, make them cool, trendy, and status rich. &nbsp;</p><p>
We need a google of &nbsp;Edisons, Fords, and Gates for this energy re-evolution.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Pit</strong></p><p>Brad Pit's much publicized green building contest for New Orleans is a small start. &nbsp;</p><p>
The news folk try to ridicule his effort, but when they cover it the satire falls kind of flat.</p><p>
But why aren't the billions made in the internet revolution, Gate's portion now turned to charity, being applied to the battle?</p><p>
Assault the bastions of the energy monopolists with mass production of renewable energy producing and consuming products, make them cool, trendy, and status rich. &nbsp;</p><p>
We need a google of &nbsp;Edisons, Fords, and Gates for this energy re-evolution.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by reprice</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:15:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Gen-X confusion</strong></p><p>Great article, but correct me if I'm wrong here- Generation X was actually pretty much over by the ages you outline in the piece. The term became marketing fodder somewhere in the mid-eighties and a few of us, now in our late thirties and early forties who opted to question the nuclear proliferation Regan years, and main-stream banal sentimentalities during a bland time watched this identity get flittered away showing up on GAP commercials and car commercials. </p><p>
You are addressing a great topic though, and other than my somewhat scratched-head interest in the Generation-x thing, I look forward to your next installment.<br>
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				<p><strong>Gen-X confusion</strong></p><p>Great article, but correct me if I'm wrong here- Generation X was actually pretty much over by the ages you outline in the piece. The term became marketing fodder somewhere in the mid-eighties and a few of us, now in our late thirties and early forties who opted to question the nuclear proliferation Regan years, and main-stream banal sentimentalities during a bland time watched this identity get flittered away showing up on GAP commercials and car commercials. </p><p>
You are addressing a great topic though, and other than my somewhat scratched-head interest in the Generation-x thing, I look forward to your next installment.<br>
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            <title>Comment #6 by roncastle</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:26:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Industrial revolution without industry?<p>Yo, Dan<p>
Part of the problem with Gen-X having a revolution is no meaningful industry. &nbsp;I think iPods are cool but they won't solve world problems.<p>
Gen-X needs to think big and I have an idea for you. &nbsp;Check out what I am working on <a href="http://www.roncastle.com/ecocover/" rel="nofollow">http://www.roncastle.com/ecocover/<p>
We are going to replace 30 million acres of agricultural plastic worldwide with organically certified biodegradable mulch made mostly from waste paper.<p>
Gen-Xers can purchase one or more manufacturing plants and manufacture the patented products under license whereever they are.<p>
Take waste from landfills and make profitable products that benefit agriculture. &nbsp;This is an idea for the next generation.<p>
Cheers,<p>
Ron Castle<br>
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<p>Cheers.</p></br></p></p></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Industrial revolution without industry?<p>Yo, Dan<p>
Part of the problem with Gen-X having a revolution is no meaningful industry. &nbsp;I think iPods are cool but they won't solve world problems.<p>
Gen-X needs to think big and I have an idea for you. &nbsp;Check out what I am working on <a href="http://www.roncastle.com/ecocover/" rel="nofollow">http://www.roncastle.com/ecocover/<p>
We are going to replace 30 million acres of agricultural plastic worldwide with organically certified biodegradable mulch made mostly from waste paper.<p>
Gen-Xers can purchase one or more manufacturing plants and manufacture the patented products under license whereever they are.<p>
Take waste from landfills and make profitable products that benefit agriculture. &nbsp;This is an idea for the next generation.<p>
Cheers,<p>
Ron Castle<br>
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<p>Cheers.</p></br></p></p></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:44:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Modern industry<p><a href="http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/9/6/2300261.html" rel="nofollow">http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/9/6/2...<p>
I think Cal Cars could side step the old business model that keeps auto companies stuck in their fossil fueled rut. &nbsp;Use the business model developed by the PC industry.

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				<p><strong>Modern industry<p><a href="http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/9/6/2300261.html" rel="nofollow">http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/9/6/2...<p>
I think Cal Cars could side step the old business model that keeps auto companies stuck in their fossil fueled rut. &nbsp;Use the business model developed by the PC industry.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by DWC</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:20:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Dan Worth Blog</strong></p><p>Great work Dan. &nbsp;Keep it up! -- DWC</p>
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				<p><strong>Dan Worth Blog</strong></p><p>Great work Dan. &nbsp;Keep it up! -- DWC</p>
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