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            <title>Comment #1 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:12:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Republicans don't</strong></p><p>Republicans don't acknowledge the concept of Efficiency.</p><p>
It's either use a service, or don't use a service.<br>
Nothing in between.

<p>-David Ahlport</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Republicans don't</strong></p><p>Republicans don't acknowledge the concept of Efficiency.</p><p>
It's either use a service, or don't use a service.<br>
Nothing in between.

<p>-David Ahlport</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:22:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Pridefull ignorance</strong></p><p>Neeehaaaaww! &nbsp;As Colbert said tonight, commenting on Obama's observation that the good folk like mcbush, are actually proud of their ignorance. &nbsp;They glory in it.</p><p>
Why? &nbsp;Because they know it bothers us so much. &nbsp;The key is insteasd of getting mad, you have to go all Colbert on 'em. </p><p>
Duuuhbya is dumb as a stump and proud. &nbsp;All the dumbasses voted for him to get revenge on the rest of the world, hehey. 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Pridefull ignorance</strong></p><p>Neeehaaaaww! &nbsp;As Colbert said tonight, commenting on Obama's observation that the good folk like mcbush, are actually proud of their ignorance. &nbsp;They glory in it.</p><p>
Why? &nbsp;Because they know it bothers us so much. &nbsp;The key is insteasd of getting mad, you have to go all Colbert on 'em. </p><p>
Duuuhbya is dumb as a stump and proud. &nbsp;All the dumbasses voted for him to get revenge on the rest of the world, hehey. 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:46:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Sheesh</strong></p><p>The earlier fun that the McCain campaign had over the tire gauges was stupid. But it takes courage for a politician to acknowledge a mistake. Let's at least give McCain credit for bringin an end this silliness.</p><p>
While on the topic of energy efficiency, I know that reducing the speed limit is a political non-starter. But couldn't one or both of the presidential candidates suggest that one thing that people could do starting today is simply abide by the legal speed limits we already have? (I mean how could any politician get up and argue with that?)</p><p>
Recently I drove a rental car to and from north-eastern WV and Washington, DC, sticking to the speed limit of 55 MPH. Just about everybody else was passing me, driving at 60-70 MPH, and getting at least 5% poorer fuel economy as a consequence.

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Sheesh</strong></p><p>The earlier fun that the McCain campaign had over the tire gauges was stupid. But it takes courage for a politician to acknowledge a mistake. Let's at least give McCain credit for bringin an end this silliness.</p><p>
While on the topic of energy efficiency, I know that reducing the speed limit is a political non-starter. But couldn't one or both of the presidential candidates suggest that one thing that people could do starting today is simply abide by the legal speed limits we already have? (I mean how could any politician get up and argue with that?)</p><p>
Recently I drove a rental car to and from north-eastern WV and Washington, DC, sticking to the speed limit of 55 MPH. Just about everybody else was passing me, driving at 60-70 MPH, and getting at least 5% poorer fuel economy as a consequence.

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Steven T</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:12:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Um, no</strong></p><p>It takes courage to acknowledge a mistake? &nbsp;That wasn't a mistake. &nbsp;That was an intentional Rovian strategy to harass the Obama campaign. &nbsp;They pulled back only when it looked like the tactic had started to backfire on them. &nbsp;</p><p>
Rove and Co. don't do truth. &nbsp;It's all about winning at any cost. &nbsp;Call that cynical, but that's the basic political reality of today's Republican party.</p>
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				<p><strong>Um, no</strong></p><p>It takes courage to acknowledge a mistake? &nbsp;That wasn't a mistake. &nbsp;That was an intentional Rovian strategy to harass the Obama campaign. &nbsp;They pulled back only when it looked like the tactic had started to backfire on them. &nbsp;</p><p>
Rove and Co. don't do truth. &nbsp;It's all about winning at any cost. &nbsp;Call that cynical, but that's the basic political reality of today's Republican party.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:18:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>OK, let me rephrase that</strong></p><p>Let's at least give McCain (and only McCain, not his handlers) for acknowledging that Obama was right to begin with.</p><p>
By the way, what do you think of "Save money and gasoline: stick to the legal speed limit" idea?

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>OK, let me rephrase that</strong></p><p>Let's at least give McCain (and only McCain, not his handlers) for acknowledging that Obama was right to begin with.</p><p>
By the way, what do you think of "Save money and gasoline: stick to the legal speed limit" idea?

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:28:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Sorry Ron</strong></p><p>Can't give Mcbush "credit" for yet another flip flop. &nbsp;He still implied that Obama's only strategy on energy policy was tire inflation, in his flip flop statement.</p><p>
How many flip flops is this on his continual weak &nbsp;attempts at swiftboating Obama?</p><p>
Did you like his entry of the prospective first lady, his wife, in that "beauty pangeant" at the biker rally? &nbsp;Big pimpin'! &nbsp;That's a real tailhook, fighter pilot 'tude towards women.</p><p>
Wait for yet another flip flop. 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Sorry Ron</strong></p><p>Can't give Mcbush "credit" for yet another flip flop. &nbsp;He still implied that Obama's only strategy on energy policy was tire inflation, in his flip flop statement.</p><p>
How many flip flops is this on his continual weak &nbsp;attempts at swiftboating Obama?</p><p>
Did you like his entry of the prospective first lady, his wife, in that "beauty pangeant" at the biker rally? &nbsp;Big pimpin'! &nbsp;That's a real tailhook, fighter pilot 'tude towards women.</p><p>
Wait for yet another flip flop. 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:43:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>McCain's lame tailhook excuses<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/navy/ails/mccain1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/navy/ails/m ...<p>
How does this match up with his offering of his wife up to the biker rally particpants? <p>
This is no joke. &nbsp; McCain opposes reproductive rights for women, maybe it's because the attitude he is covering up is similar to the tailhook and biker rally crowd? &nbsp;Women are viewed as objects of exploitation, instead of sentient human beings.<p>
By the way, the Hilton family was successfully sued by two of the women assaulted in the tailhook crime. &nbsp;Because the event took place at a Hilton hotel. &nbsp;Oh the irony.<p>
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				<p><strong>McCain's lame tailhook excuses<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/navy/ails/mccain1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/navy/ails/m ...<p>
How does this match up with his offering of his wife up to the biker rally particpants? <p>
This is no joke. &nbsp; McCain opposes reproductive rights for women, maybe it's because the attitude he is covering up is similar to the tailhook and biker rally crowd? &nbsp;Women are viewed as objects of exploitation, instead of sentient human beings.<p>
By the way, the Hilton family was successfully sued by two of the women assaulted in the tailhook crime. &nbsp;Because the event took place at a Hilton hotel. &nbsp;Oh the irony.<p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:23:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Here's Slate's take on the gauge rage<p>Excerpt from "<a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/08/06/tire-joke.aspx" rel="nofollow">Tire Joke", by Christopher Beam:<p>
After Barack Obama suggested last week that one way for Americans to conserve gas is to keep their tires inflated (which, um, works), Republicans started handing out tire gauges engraved with the words "Obama Energy Plan." Yesterday, Obama mocked them right back: "It's like they take pride in being ignorant." Still, Republicans continue to push the point. <p>
Republicans, that is, except McCain. During a telephone town hall meeting Tuesday, McCain conceded the issue. "Obama said, a couple of days ago, says we all should inflate our tires," McCain said. "I don't disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it." Yet McCain's Web site still has a section on its front page devoted to the "Obama Tire Gauge." <p>
Why the disparity? McCain's camp hasn't returned requests for an explanation. My guess: It's easier for a campaign or party to take cheap shots on behalf of a candidate than for a candidate to take cheap shots himself. Especially when it's such a basic, right-or-wrong question as whether or not tire pressure conserves gas. <br>


<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></br></p></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Here's Slate's take on the gauge rage<p>Excerpt from "<a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/08/06/tire-joke.aspx" rel="nofollow">Tire Joke", by Christopher Beam:<p>
After Barack Obama suggested last week that one way for Americans to conserve gas is to keep their tires inflated (which, um, works), Republicans started handing out tire gauges engraved with the words "Obama Energy Plan." Yesterday, Obama mocked them right back: "It's like they take pride in being ignorant." Still, Republicans continue to push the point. <p>
Republicans, that is, except McCain. During a telephone town hall meeting Tuesday, McCain conceded the issue. "Obama said, a couple of days ago, says we all should inflate our tires," McCain said. "I don't disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it." Yet McCain's Web site still has a section on its front page devoted to the "Obama Tire Gauge." <p>
Why the disparity? McCain's camp hasn't returned requests for an explanation. My guess: It's easier for a campaign or party to take cheap shots on behalf of a candidate than for a candidate to take cheap shots himself. Especially when it's such a basic, right-or-wrong question as whether or not tire pressure conserves gas. <br>


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            <title>Comment #9 by Jason D Scorse</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:28:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>McCain still mocking Obama on this...<p><a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/mccain_mocks_obamas_accurate_c.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/m ...<p>
because as Obama rightly pointed out modern Republicans take pride in ignorance. It's pathetic. <p>
Calling all real conservatives and real Republicans- haven't you had enough of this? Time for change. You know what to do.

<p>We need to focus on the root causes of problems. <a href="http://www.voicesofreason.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.voicesofreason.info.</a></p></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>McCain still mocking Obama on this...<p><a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/mccain_mocks_obamas_accurate_c.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/m ...<p>
because as Obama rightly pointed out modern Republicans take pride in ignorance. It's pathetic. <p>
Calling all real conservatives and real Republicans- haven't you had enough of this? Time for change. You know what to do.

<p>We need to focus on the root causes of problems. <a href="http://www.voicesofreason.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.voicesofreason.info.</a></p></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Steven T</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:15:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Still no</strong></p><p>Ron, with all due respect, if you distinguish McCain from his handlers you haven't been paying close attention. &nbsp;Virtually everything that comes out of McCain's mouth is scripted to the nth degree. &nbsp;It's not like McCain is a captive mouthpiece -- as the candidate he is the decider, is he not?</p><p>
At any rate, the way McCain reraised the issue in a highly inaccurate and unfair way should tell you everything you need to know about his sense of decency and ethics. &nbsp;McCain knows that the only way he wins is to completely demolish Obama's character. &nbsp;That's exactly what he's doing. &nbsp;And it is going to get much, much worse by election day. &nbsp;The swiftboating of Kerry in 2004 will look like a picnic.</p><p>
When folks make excuses for McCain that merely enables his passive-aggressive behavior. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Still no</strong></p><p>Ron, with all due respect, if you distinguish McCain from his handlers you haven't been paying close attention. &nbsp;Virtually everything that comes out of McCain's mouth is scripted to the nth degree. &nbsp;It's not like McCain is a captive mouthpiece -- as the candidate he is the decider, is he not?</p><p>
At any rate, the way McCain reraised the issue in a highly inaccurate and unfair way should tell you everything you need to know about his sense of decency and ethics. &nbsp;McCain knows that the only way he wins is to completely demolish Obama's character. &nbsp;That's exactly what he's doing. &nbsp;And it is going to get much, much worse by election day. &nbsp;The swiftboating of Kerry in 2004 will look like a picnic.</p><p>
When folks make excuses for McCain that merely enables his passive-aggressive behavior. &nbsp;</p>
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