<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Fast food goes organic and natural]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:31:00 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/1 Organic meat is mostly a scam...

the organic rules are weak on many counts, but none more so than with respect to animal agriculture- organic meat and dairy looks almost identical to factory-farming, with most of the bad environmental impacts. This is yet another example of a poorly-conceived metric that then gets ensconed in the public imagination even though it means very little and the benefits are small to nil.

J.S.

]]> Organic meat is mostly a scam...

the organic rules are weak on many counts, but none more so than with respect to animal agriculture- organic meat and dairy looks almost identical to factory-farming, with most of the bad environmental impacts. This is yet another example of a poorly-conceived metric that then gets ensconed in the public imagination even though it means very little and the benefits are small to nil.

J.S.

]]> Comment #2 by farmer http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:57:37 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/2 disagree


As a small organic dairy farmer from Vermont, I take issue with your assessment of organic dairying. Organic dairying is not even close to factory farming. While there are a few dairies who are adopting the confined animal feeding operation model (CAFO), they are the exception rather than the rule. 99% of organic dories are organic legitimate. Even with some dairy farms flaunting the rules, one can always find organic dairy products that are truly organically produced. If you don't think there is a difference, come and fill out my annual organic dairy certification application. You will change your mind.

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As a small organic dairy farmer from Vermont, I take issue with your assessment of organic dairying. Organic dairying is not even close to factory farming. While there are a few dairies who are adopting the confined animal feeding operation model (CAFO), they are the exception rather than the rule. 99% of organic dories are organic legitimate. Even with some dairy farms flaunting the rules, one can always find organic dairy products that are truly organically produced. If you don't think there is a difference, come and fill out my annual organic dairy certification application. You will change your mind.

]]> Comment #3 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:49:03 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/3 Is that applicaton on line somewhere?

That would be interesting to see.

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That would be interesting to see.

]]> Comment #4 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:24:03 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/4 I'm opening to reconsidering my position...

show us the facts!

]]> I'm opening to reconsidering my position...

show us the facts!

]]> Comment #5 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:47:13 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/5 Beans

Demand beans in your wraps intead of that mystery meat.   There's a start at reforming agribiz fast food.

Of course here in rural america the teens who prepare your food will think you are nuts.  

But that is probably a good sign given the present state of family values (faithbased consumerism)and no child left behind (meaning no bush child left behind. Poor Neil bush, the savings and loan scammer has a test cheat company he setup with Saudi funds, it costs 40 bucks per student, make sure Neil is not "left behind", call your school board today to make sure they are helping Neil regain his princely status, by buying this computer program with your tax dollars!)devolutionary mis-education.

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Demand beans in your wraps intead of that mystery meat.   There's a start at reforming agribiz fast food.

Of course here in rural america the teens who prepare your food will think you are nuts.  

But that is probably a good sign given the present state of family values (faithbased consumerism)and no child left behind (meaning no bush child left behind. Poor Neil bush, the savings and loan scammer has a test cheat company he setup with Saudi funds, it costs 40 bucks per student, make sure Neil is not "left behind", call your school board today to make sure they are helping Neil regain his princely status, by buying this computer program with your tax dollars!)devolutionary mis-education.

]]> Comment #6 by willa http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:32:56 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/6 beans in your fast food

Just go to Taco Bell.  Order a seven-layer burrito.  Yes, it has factory-farmed dairy in the cheese and sour cream, but the main bulk of the burrito is beans, rice, lettuce, tomato, and guacamole.  Two of them fill me up unless I'm totally starving and get a bean burrito too.  I prefer the seven-layers because of the rice and guacamole, though, but three is way too much for one meal.

Health food?  Not exactly.  Yummy, and healthier and lower-impact than a burger and fries?  Absolutely.

Organic regs are here: http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NOP/standards.html .  Everything I know suggests it really does make a difference.  For instance, it's forbidden under organic practices to:
"(3) Feed plastic pellets for roughage;

(4) Feed formulas containing urea or manure;"

(from 205.237 Livestock feed.)

In general, the regulations certainly leave something to be desired, but don't kid yourself--they're a lot better than nothing, both for animal welfare and for the environment.


]]> beans in your fast food

Just go to Taco Bell.  Order a seven-layer burrito.  Yes, it has factory-farmed dairy in the cheese and sour cream, but the main bulk of the burrito is beans, rice, lettuce, tomato, and guacamole.  Two of them fill me up unless I'm totally starving and get a bean burrito too.  I prefer the seven-layers because of the rice and guacamole, though, but three is way too much for one meal.

Health food?  Not exactly.  Yummy, and healthier and lower-impact than a burger and fries?  Absolutely.

Organic regs are here: http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NOP/standards.html .  Everything I know suggests it really does make a difference.  For instance, it's forbidden under organic practices to:
"(3) Feed plastic pellets for roughage;

(4) Feed formulas containing urea or manure;"

(from 205.237 Livestock feed.)

In general, the regulations certainly leave something to be desired, but don't kid yourself--they're a lot better than nothing, both for animal welfare and for the environment.


]]> Comment #7 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:10:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/7 Holy crap

That's a lot of regulation.

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That's a lot of regulation.

]]> Comment #8 by Sue H http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:51:17 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/8 Fast Food Chains go Healthier?

Sounds good, but always be diligent in checking things out. Fat/Oils could be GMO.

]]> Fast Food Chains go Healthier?

Sounds good, but always be diligent in checking things out. Fat/Oils could be GMO.

]]> Comment #9 by Fabulous2007 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/ Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:56:25 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/galbraith1/9 Traditional healthy food

In our age of processed, pasteurized, and devitalized products, it is critically important to include in the diet a fair amount of traditional healthy food. In this article you will find a surprising list of some of the healthiest traditional beauty products - lacto-fermented foods and beverages.

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In our age of processed, pasteurized, and devitalized products, it is critically important to include in the diet a fair amount of traditional healthy food. In this article you will find a surprising list of some of the healthiest traditional beauty products - lacto-fermented foods and beverages.

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