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            <title>Comment #1 by tboggia</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/fit-to-be-tide/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:13:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Seventh Generation?</strong></p><p>What about seventh generation detergents? does anybody know?</p>
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				<p><strong>Seventh Generation?</strong></p><p>What about seventh generation detergents? does anybody know?</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Ecofreako</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:05:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Back to basics option:</strong></p><p>Like many products and services we buy, it's very hard to know the full details and compositions of them, so often it's easier and stress-free to do it yourself. &nbsp;In this case, I've been happy and comfortable to use pure soap, washing soda (stronger cousin to baking soda) and borax mixtures for laundry. &nbsp;They're clean and all-natural, it might be a bit of work sourcing them to buy, but once you do they last a long time. &nbsp;1/6th cup or less of soap, 1/2 cup of washing soda, 1/4 cup of borax does the job for full laundry loads, and if perhaps not all stains come out, it's a wonderful trade-off to know, these clothes are truely clean! &nbsp;After years of using these and nothing commercial, I have really become hypersensitive the synthetic scents and the big smells they create with other people using the common chemical-soup junk. &nbsp;And while I have you reading this, I'll say that dryers are unnecessary, you can hang your clothes in the house to dry (as well as outside), especially in winter when your air will be dry from whatever home-heating you do. &nbsp;Happy cleaning! (o:</p>
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				<p><strong>Back to basics option:</strong></p><p>Like many products and services we buy, it's very hard to know the full details and compositions of them, so often it's easier and stress-free to do it yourself. &nbsp;In this case, I've been happy and comfortable to use pure soap, washing soda (stronger cousin to baking soda) and borax mixtures for laundry. &nbsp;They're clean and all-natural, it might be a bit of work sourcing them to buy, but once you do they last a long time. &nbsp;1/6th cup or less of soap, 1/2 cup of washing soda, 1/4 cup of borax does the job for full laundry loads, and if perhaps not all stains come out, it's a wonderful trade-off to know, these clothes are truely clean! &nbsp;After years of using these and nothing commercial, I have really become hypersensitive the synthetic scents and the big smells they create with other people using the common chemical-soup junk. &nbsp;And while I have you reading this, I'll say that dryers are unnecessary, you can hang your clothes in the house to dry (as well as outside), especially in winter when your air will be dry from whatever home-heating you do. &nbsp;Happy cleaning! (o:</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by ainman</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/fit-to-be-tide/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:40:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Shaklee has green HE<p>Shaklee Coorporation has an HE laundry detergent that is safe for you, your little ones, and the planet. Shaklee was the first company to be certified climate nuetral. Their products as well as the whole company are GREEN. You can read more about them here: <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/ashley_inman" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/ashley_inman</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Shaklee has green HE<p>Shaklee Coorporation has an HE laundry detergent that is safe for you, your little ones, and the planet. Shaklee was the first company to be certified climate nuetral. Their products as well as the whole company are GREEN. You can read more about them here: <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/ashley_inman" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/ashley_inman</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by texasjenny</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:53:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>List of EPA-recognized products<p>The <a href="http://www.epa.gov/dfe/pubs/projects/formulat/formpart.htm#consumer" rel="nofollow">EPA has a list of recognized NPE-free products.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>List of EPA-recognized products<p>The <a href="http://www.epa.gov/dfe/pubs/projects/formulat/formpart.htm#consumer" rel="nofollow">EPA has a list of recognized NPE-free products.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by chinadoll</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:47:43 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I love MoonWorks!<p>I found MoonWorks laundry soap at my local health food store, but their website is here: &nbsp;<a href="http://www.moonworks.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.moonworks.org/<p>
The laundry soap has only four ingredients: baking soda, borax, castile soap from coconut oil, and essential oils. &nbsp;(Must be similar to the soap the commenter above makes at home!) It works like a charm in our HE machine. And it takes only 1/8 cup for a normal load!<p>
My husband works outside all day and has always had trouble with skin irritations and acne on his back, but since I switched to MoonWorks laundry soap all of the skin issues have gone away. Amazing!</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>I love MoonWorks!<p>I found MoonWorks laundry soap at my local health food store, but their website is here: &nbsp;<a href="http://www.moonworks.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.moonworks.org/<p>
The laundry soap has only four ingredients: baking soda, borax, castile soap from coconut oil, and essential oils. &nbsp;(Must be similar to the soap the commenter above makes at home!) It works like a charm in our HE machine. And it takes only 1/8 cup for a normal load!<p>
My husband works outside all day and has always had trouble with skin irritations and acne on his back, but since I switched to MoonWorks laundry soap all of the skin issues have gone away. Amazing!</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Panamaverde</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:17:02 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Charlies Soap<p>We have found Charlie's Soap <a href="http://www.charliesoap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.charliesoap.com/ to be the best out there. It is the only thing that will get our cloth diapers clean! It is a North Carolina based company but you can visit their website for more info.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Charlies Soap<p>We have found Charlie's Soap <a href="http://www.charliesoap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.charliesoap.com/ to be the best out there. It is the only thing that will get our cloth diapers clean! It is a North Carolina based company but you can visit their website for more info.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Greta</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:53:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Reconsider P&amp;G</strong></p><p>P&amp;G has always tested their products on animals. You could check the PETA site to see if they have cleaned up their act, but last I checked they had not.</p><p>
So, if you care about animal welfare, stay away from P&amp;G products.</p><p>
Greta</p>
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				<p><strong>Reconsider P&amp;G</strong></p><p>P&amp;G has always tested their products on animals. You could check the PETA site to see if they have cleaned up their act, but last I checked they had not.</p><p>
So, if you care about animal welfare, stay away from P&amp;G products.</p><p>
Greta</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by LaliaTK</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:01:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>P&amp;G and Wal-Mart?  Good lord.</strong></p><p>I second what Greta said; P&amp;G is a HORRIBLE company to suggest and I can't believe that Umbra doesn't already know the awful things that P&amp;G does to animals.</p><p>
Also: &nbsp;suggesting Wal-Mart? &nbsp;COME ON. &nbsp;Many anything-conscious people (economy, environment, health etc) do not shop at Wal-Mart for a plethora of reasons. &nbsp;For more info, a good source is WakeUpWalMart.com.</p><p>
I appreciate the true alternative suggestions that I found in the comments (imagine that: &nbsp;more answers in the comments section than the actual answer itself!) and will be trying some of them ASAP.</p>
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				<p><strong>P&amp;G and Wal-Mart?  Good lord.</strong></p><p>I second what Greta said; P&amp;G is a HORRIBLE company to suggest and I can't believe that Umbra doesn't already know the awful things that P&amp;G does to animals.</p><p>
Also: &nbsp;suggesting Wal-Mart? &nbsp;COME ON. &nbsp;Many anything-conscious people (economy, environment, health etc) do not shop at Wal-Mart for a plethora of reasons. &nbsp;For more info, a good source is WakeUpWalMart.com.</p><p>
I appreciate the true alternative suggestions that I found in the comments (imagine that: &nbsp;more answers in the comments section than the actual answer itself!) and will be trying some of them ASAP.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by wendyoc</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:54:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Wintree Laundry Detergent has no NPE's!<p>Wintree Laundry Detergent contains no NPE's, no phosphates, is made from bio-renewable resources, is HE compatible and a cruelty free product (never tested on animals). Plus, it's a concentrated formula so less packaging and less water are needed to make it. And, it's less expensive than almost all eco-friendly products on the market.<p>
See for yourself:<br>
<a href="http://www.wintreelaundry.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wintreelaundry.com</a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Wintree Laundry Detergent has no NPE's!<p>Wintree Laundry Detergent contains no NPE's, no phosphates, is made from bio-renewable resources, is HE compatible and a cruelty free product (never tested on animals). Plus, it's a concentrated formula so less packaging and less water are needed to make it. And, it's less expensive than almost all eco-friendly products on the market.<p>
See for yourself:<br>
<a href="http://www.wintreelaundry.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wintreelaundry.com</a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by smharsa</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:42:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>P&amp;G and Wal-Mart</strong></p><p>I too can't believe that Umbra recommended P&amp;G AND Wal-Mart. I've boycotted both companies for years.</p>
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				<p><strong>P&amp;G and Wal-Mart</strong></p><p>I too can't believe that Umbra recommended P&amp;G AND Wal-Mart. I've boycotted both companies for years.</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by Greta</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:16:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Welcome to my...</strong></p><p>I climb into my Hummer, with leather interior, for a trip to Wal-Mart to buy some P&amp;G household chemical cleaners and PVC outdoor furniture. &nbsp;As long as I am here, I might as well pick myself up a gun and several rounds of ammo...in case I have to fend off insurgents.</p><p>
Oh, I just can't resist grabbing a package of Oreo cookies [big tobacco product]. I'm so hungry. &nbsp;Oops, I got crumbs on my new mink coat. Here, I'll just brush them off with my bootlegged copy of Halo 3.</p><p>
Ah, shucks. I'm nearly out of gasoline after that 1-mile drive to Wal-Mart. I'll just pull over to Exxon. </p><p>
"Greta, wake up. You were having a bad dream."</p>
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				<p><strong>Welcome to my...</strong></p><p>I climb into my Hummer, with leather interior, for a trip to Wal-Mart to buy some P&amp;G household chemical cleaners and PVC outdoor furniture. &nbsp;As long as I am here, I might as well pick myself up a gun and several rounds of ammo...in case I have to fend off insurgents.</p><p>
Oh, I just can't resist grabbing a package of Oreo cookies [big tobacco product]. I'm so hungry. &nbsp;Oops, I got crumbs on my new mink coat. Here, I'll just brush them off with my bootlegged copy of Halo 3.</p><p>
Ah, shucks. I'm nearly out of gasoline after that 1-mile drive to Wal-Mart. I'll just pull over to Exxon. </p><p>
"Greta, wake up. You were having a bad dream."</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by Sandoz04</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:35:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Seventh Generation</strong></p><p>Seventh Generation's laundry detergent says "specifically formulated for HE and standard machines." &nbsp;I've never tried it in a HE washer, but it works great in a standard.</p>
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				<p><strong>Seventh Generation</strong></p><p>Seventh Generation's laundry detergent says "specifically formulated for HE and standard machines." &nbsp;I've never tried it in a HE washer, but it works great in a standard.</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by Storm Dragon</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:07:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I was wondering.....</strong></p><p>What about Trader Joe's "Next to Godliness" laundry soap? &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>I was wondering.....</strong></p><p>What about Trader Joe's "Next to Godliness" laundry soap? &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #14 by starling72</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:05:58 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>good stuff!</strong></p><p>I've been looking for a green HE detergent for months and this has given me several great leads...thanks!!</p><p>
To those of you who question why Wal-Mart was mentioned as a possible source...wake up and get out of your little corner of the universe. &nbsp;I happen to live in a rural area of the U.S. where the ONLY place to find anything like this within 20 miles is the local Wal-Mart. &nbsp;Sure, I hate them as much as you do, but I'm not driving even my 35mpg car 20+ miles just to boycott them...how "green" would that really be, especially when you're not talking just about my family but the 10,000 other people in our community, too?? &nbsp;Yes, believe it or not, Wal-Mart has the corner on our household goods market here...sadly.</p><p>
Thanks again for all the suggestions and sorry for the rant!</p>
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				<p><strong>good stuff!</strong></p><p>I've been looking for a green HE detergent for months and this has given me several great leads...thanks!!</p><p>
To those of you who question why Wal-Mart was mentioned as a possible source...wake up and get out of your little corner of the universe. &nbsp;I happen to live in a rural area of the U.S. where the ONLY place to find anything like this within 20 miles is the local Wal-Mart. &nbsp;Sure, I hate them as much as you do, but I'm not driving even my 35mpg car 20+ miles just to boycott them...how "green" would that really be, especially when you're not talking just about my family but the 10,000 other people in our community, too?? &nbsp;Yes, believe it or not, Wal-Mart has the corner on our household goods market here...sadly.</p><p>
Thanks again for all the suggestions and sorry for the rant!</p>
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            <title>Comment #15 by naturalguy</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:31:21 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Mountain Green<p>Mountain Green has a full line of HE compatible green and healthy laundry products. Check them out <a href="http://www.ahealthierclean.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahealthierclean.com</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Mountain Green<p>Mountain Green has a full line of HE compatible green and healthy laundry products. Check them out <a href="http://www.ahealthierclean.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahealthierclean.com</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #16 by GreenTeam</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:14:39 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>P&amp;G</strong></p><p>Unbelievable that Grist / Umbra would recommend P&amp;G. products.</p><p>
Now that has me wondering if they really do their homework on the rest of their recommendations.</p>
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				<p><strong>P&amp;G</strong></p><p>Unbelievable that Grist / Umbra would recommend P&amp;G. products.</p><p>
Now that has me wondering if they really do their homework on the rest of their recommendations.</p>
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