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            <title>Comment #1 by argalite</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:04:21 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fireworks</strong></p><p>Umbra,<br>
I think you are missing the point, fireworks release tons of particulate matter (PM 10), and though you mention the main elements of them, the smoke is the problem. &nbsp;The air quality can be ridiculously bad, with thick clouds enveloping children and adults. &nbsp;If you measure the air quality on that night we would exceed all standards, and allowing that is not good. &nbsp;It's too bad the stands are manned by groups like the girl scouts and churches, as you would have to battle both the american way and the non-profits to make a difference. RS</br></p>
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				<p><strong>fireworks</strong></p><p>Umbra,<br>
I think you are missing the point, fireworks release tons of particulate matter (PM 10), and though you mention the main elements of them, the smoke is the problem. &nbsp;The air quality can be ridiculously bad, with thick clouds enveloping children and adults. &nbsp;If you measure the air quality on that night we would exceed all standards, and allowing that is not good. &nbsp;It's too bad the stands are manned by groups like the girl scouts and churches, as you would have to battle both the american way and the non-profits to make a difference. RS</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by corymcd</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 08:19:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fireworks</strong></p><p>RS,<br>
Actually, I think you might be missing the point. &nbsp;While fireworks undoubtedly have a negative effect on air quality (PM as well as heavy metals, POPs, etc.), these effects are very localized and brief. &nbsp;The air quality immediately next to a campfire is also pretty horrendous, but they're not considered a serious health threat because most of us don't camp out every night. &nbsp;I'm pretty sure if you even attempted to do "battle" with the Girl Scouts or the American Way in the name of environmentalism, you would do us all more harm than good. &nbsp;Don't sweat the small stuff!</br></p>
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				<p><strong>fireworks</strong></p><p>RS,<br>
Actually, I think you might be missing the point. &nbsp;While fireworks undoubtedly have a negative effect on air quality (PM as well as heavy metals, POPs, etc.), these effects are very localized and brief. &nbsp;The air quality immediately next to a campfire is also pretty horrendous, but they're not considered a serious health threat because most of us don't camp out every night. &nbsp;I'm pretty sure if you even attempted to do "battle" with the Girl Scouts or the American Way in the name of environmentalism, you would do us all more harm than good. &nbsp;Don't sweat the small stuff!</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:04:36 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks Aid Global Cooling</strong></p><p><br>
According to the most likely answer to what causes global heating -- the cosmic ray hypothesis of Henrik Svensmark, where low level cloud cover, formed by the impact of cosmic rays, regulates sunlight falling on the planet and hence temperature -- the smoggy fumes of fireworks will reduce the impact of heating by putting more particulate matter into the low level atmosphere.</p><p>
Therefore, let "the bombs burst into air"!</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks Aid Global Cooling</strong></p><p><br>
According to the most likely answer to what causes global heating -- the cosmic ray hypothesis of Henrik Svensmark, where low level cloud cover, formed by the impact of cosmic rays, regulates sunlight falling on the planet and hence temperature -- the smoggy fumes of fireworks will reduce the impact of heating by putting more particulate matter into the low level atmosphere.</p><p>
Therefore, let "the bombs burst into air"!</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by bailsout</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:49:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fireworks-global warming</strong></p><p>In Nelson DeMille's latest novel he refers to the following as an old joke: What's the solution to global warming? &nbsp; Nuclear winter.....</p>
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				<p><strong>fireworks-global warming</strong></p><p>In Nelson DeMille's latest novel he refers to the following as an old joke: What's the solution to global warming? &nbsp; Nuclear winter.....</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by ginnyjc</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:46:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks</strong></p><p>My problem isn't with the huge public fireworks. &nbsp;As has already been stated, don't sweat the small stuff - it's only once a year. &nbsp;My problem is with the backyard home fireworks. &nbsp;Although they may be legal in some states, they are stupid everywhere. &nbsp;Unless you are a licensed fireworks technician, you are just asking for property damage, injuries or even death. &nbsp;It happens every year. &nbsp;At that point, who cares about a a little particulate matter?</p>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks</strong></p><p>My problem isn't with the huge public fireworks. &nbsp;As has already been stated, don't sweat the small stuff - it's only once a year. &nbsp;My problem is with the backyard home fireworks. &nbsp;Although they may be legal in some states, they are stupid everywhere. &nbsp;Unless you are a licensed fireworks technician, you are just asking for property damage, injuries or even death. &nbsp;It happens every year. &nbsp;At that point, who cares about a a little particulate matter?</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by CyberBrook</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:34:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fireworks<p><b><br>
It seems pretty clear that fireworks are bad for the environment---heavy metals, air pollution, water pollution for at least 80 days, noise pollution, scarred kids and pets, etc. <p>
Constructing the fireworks is a dangerous sweatshop industry in China, where many people are super-exploited and injured.<p>
Finally (for now), I was injured by fireworks when I was a kid and have been blind in one eye since then. Lots of pain and suffering, medical appointments and surgery, visual difficulty, and a very sad mom.<p>
Here are some related links (on fireworks and the environment):<p>
<a href="http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?articleID=580&amp;journalID=64" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?art ...<p>
<a href="http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/sum2000/wr_sum2000fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/sum2000/wr_sum2000fi ...<p>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/9200/toxic_fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/9200/toxic_firewo ...<p>
<a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/43230/fireworks_and_air_pollution_why_fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/43230/fireworks_ ...<p>
<a href="http://www.all-creatures.org/oadl/about-camp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.all-creatures.org/oadl/about-camp.html<p>
<a href="http://www.world-wire.com/news/0407050001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.world-wire.com/news/0407050001.html<p>
<a href="http://www.physorg.com/news99672229.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physorg.com/news99672229.html<br>
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				<p><strong>fireworks<p><b><br>
It seems pretty clear that fireworks are bad for the environment---heavy metals, air pollution, water pollution for at least 80 days, noise pollution, scarred kids and pets, etc. <p>
Constructing the fireworks is a dangerous sweatshop industry in China, where many people are super-exploited and injured.<p>
Finally (for now), I was injured by fireworks when I was a kid and have been blind in one eye since then. Lots of pain and suffering, medical appointments and surgery, visual difficulty, and a very sad mom.<p>
Here are some related links (on fireworks and the environment):<p>
<a href="http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?articleID=580&amp;journalID=64" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?art ...<p>
<a href="http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/sum2000/wr_sum2000fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/sum2000/wr_sum2000fi ...<p>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/9200/toxic_fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/9200/toxic_firewo ...<p>
<a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/43230/fireworks_and_air_pollution_why_fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/43230/fireworks_ ...<p>
<a href="http://www.all-creatures.org/oadl/about-camp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.all-creatures.org/oadl/about-camp.html<p>
<a href="http://www.world-wire.com/news/0407050001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.world-wire.com/news/0407050001.html<p>
<a href="http://www.physorg.com/news99672229.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physorg.com/news99672229.html<br>
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            <title>Comment #7 by jantos</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:40:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks in the grand scheme of things</strong></p><p>As bad as fireworks themselves may be, how do their explosion-related emissions stack up against the emissions caused when all the spectators drive cars from home to the fireworks display?</p>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks in the grand scheme of things</strong></p><p>As bad as fireworks themselves may be, how do their explosion-related emissions stack up against the emissions caused when all the spectators drive cars from home to the fireworks display?</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Fabulous2007</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:10:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks and pets<p>It seems pretty clear that fireworks are bad for the environment---heavy metals, air pollution, water pollution for at least 80 days, noise pollution, scarred kids and pets, etc.<p>
I absolutely agree with you. They are bad for the environment and for pets. My dog is afraid of them very much. I love dogs very much and recently I've found an interesting thing: <a href="http://channelbf.com/franchise-ideas-for-animal-lovers/" rel="nofollow">pet franchise. From one side you care about animals, and from the other - you earn money. That's great! If you are an animal lover, it is worth of trying. </a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Fireworks and pets<p>It seems pretty clear that fireworks are bad for the environment---heavy metals, air pollution, water pollution for at least 80 days, noise pollution, scarred kids and pets, etc.<p>
I absolutely agree with you. They are bad for the environment and for pets. My dog is afraid of them very much. I love dogs very much and recently I've found an interesting thing: <a href="http://channelbf.com/franchise-ideas-for-animal-lovers/" rel="nofollow">pet franchise. From one side you care about animals, and from the other - you earn money. That's great! If you are an animal lover, it is worth of trying. </a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Zephaniah</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:07:39 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Alternative FUN</strong></p><p>If there are no fireworks, <br>
whatever are you going to do???.....?</p><p>
Charades<br>
Capture the flag<br>
Find the constellations<br>
Memory time tell stories about first job,first love,first bicycle,best vacation,proudest moment <br>
Liars dice, poker, go fish, hearts, &nbsp;<br>
Squirt gun war or water balloons <br>
Penny toss<br>
Look at family photos, slides, videos<br>
Listen to family musicians<br>
Poem writing contest with red licorice prizes<br>
Cherry seed spitting contest<br>
Invite the neighbors <br>
Dance<br>
Read the Declaration of Independence<br>
Declare how you will lower your carbon footprint<br>
Eat pie, made of local fruit</p><p>
LOVE THE 4TH OF JULY!!<br>
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				<p><strong>Alternative FUN</strong></p><p>If there are no fireworks, <br>
whatever are you going to do???.....?</p><p>
Charades<br>
Capture the flag<br>
Find the constellations<br>
Memory time tell stories about first job,first love,first bicycle,best vacation,proudest moment <br>
Liars dice, poker, go fish, hearts, &nbsp;<br>
Squirt gun war or water balloons <br>
Penny toss<br>
Look at family photos, slides, videos<br>
Listen to family musicians<br>
Poem writing contest with red licorice prizes<br>
Cherry seed spitting contest<br>
Invite the neighbors <br>
Dance<br>
Read the Declaration of Independence<br>
Declare how you will lower your carbon footprint<br>
Eat pie, made of local fruit</p><p>
LOVE THE 4TH OF JULY!!<br>
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            <title>Comment #10 by spiders</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:12:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Compressed Air Launch?</strong></p><p>For the large displays it would be great if Disney would release the patent on their compressed air launch system and if municipalities would require compressed air or a similar launch system. </p><p>
This would at least eliminate part of the problem, and make some of us sweat the small stuff less...</p>
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				<p><strong>Compressed Air Launch?</strong></p><p>For the large displays it would be great if Disney would release the patent on their compressed air launch system and if municipalities would require compressed air or a similar launch system. </p><p>
This would at least eliminate part of the problem, and make some of us sweat the small stuff less...</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:32:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;main concern -- as it should be&quot;?</strong></p><p>Our "main concern," as environmentalists, is the well-being of the Earth's community of living creatures. &nbsp;Global warming is currently but the most important of our sub-main concerns; and it is so very important, partly, because it deeply intersects with another, the biodiversity crisis.</p><p>
Some of the links given by CyberBrook, e.g. all-creatures.org, express this concern, regarding fireworks, very nicely.</p><p>
Thanks, Fabulous 2007, for your kind message.</p>
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				<p><strong>&quot;main concern -- as it should be&quot;?</strong></p><p>Our "main concern," as environmentalists, is the well-being of the Earth's community of living creatures. &nbsp;Global warming is currently but the most important of our sub-main concerns; and it is so very important, partly, because it deeply intersects with another, the biodiversity crisis.</p><p>
Some of the links given by CyberBrook, e.g. all-creatures.org, express this concern, regarding fireworks, very nicely.</p><p>
Thanks, Fabulous 2007, for your kind message.</p>
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