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            <title>Comment #1 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:42:02 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The only thing to fear</strong></p><p>is fear itself.</p><p>
I'm not a person who carries around a lot of fear. &nbsp;I would have said once that I have the common, every day fears that most people have.... except nearly everyone I know worries about, well, everything, much more than I do.</p><p>
I have a girlfriend who I affectionately refer to as a "bundle of fear with hair." Although this is a joke, a gentle rib, there is truth to the statement. &nbsp;She interprets life in a way that is completely foreign to me. &nbsp;She is afraid of heights. OK, I can understand that one. &nbsp;She is afraid of her plane crashing. OK, I'll buy that. &nbsp;But she is also afraid of her car breaking down on the highway... it's a fairly new car, in good condition, never broken down before... but this is a persistent fear. &nbsp;As to why it would be so horrible to break down on the highway? &nbsp;Because she might get stuck in the center lane, and then her hazard lights might not work, or people might not see them, and traffic will be whizzing by, and someone will hit her and kill her. &nbsp;Uh huh. Seems unlikely to me, but.... A salesman seems genuinely nice to her, so she wonders why. Is he ripping her off? &nbsp;Should she not be paying so much? &nbsp;A gentleman opens a door for her at a restaraunt... she worries. &nbsp;Does she have to talk to him now? What if he buys her a drink? &nbsp;What if he wants to sleep with her? &nbsp;What if he follows her out to her car and rapes her?</p><p>
It goes on and on. &nbsp;As much as I try to apply logic to any of these scenarios, and she will laugh it off and say she knows she is being "silly," I know the fear persists. &nbsp;It colors everything she does, every decision she makes.</p><p>
I have another girlfriend. &nbsp;She has a beautiful, healthy, happy and playful 6-month old daughter. &nbsp;All the things you can potentially worry about while pregnant are now behind her. &nbsp;Yet she is having nightmares every night. &nbsp;About what, you ask? &nbsp;Someone kidnapping her daughter. &nbsp;I ask, "Why would someone kidnap her? &nbsp;You are neither rich nor famous... people generally kidnap for some benefit (i.e. ransom). &nbsp;Why would they take her?" &nbsp;"Because she is so beautiful - people come up to me on the street just to tell me how beautiful she is. It makes me really nervous."</p><p>
What kind of world are we living in when a simple polite gesture (holding a door, complimenting a baby) is cause for such anxiety? &nbsp;All I know is that I reason and reason with my friends, but I simply fail to see the world as they do. &nbsp;I am continuously surprised by the ways in which they can manufacture fear out of the wispiest of strands. &nbsp;</p><p>
So, what can be done? &nbsp;Surely our media carries much of the blame with it's selective reporting of the day's latest bad news. &nbsp;But can they really be blamed, when that is what sells? &nbsp;And how to tell your friends to completely avoid the media? &nbsp;Surely, as well, our government takes advantage, and pushes it's own agenda by fueling our national obsession with fear. &nbsp;But, why? &nbsp;Why should they even want to? &nbsp;And why should it be so profitable to fear-monger? &nbsp;Truly, I am at a loss.</p>
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				<p><strong>The only thing to fear</strong></p><p>is fear itself.</p><p>
I'm not a person who carries around a lot of fear. &nbsp;I would have said once that I have the common, every day fears that most people have.... except nearly everyone I know worries about, well, everything, much more than I do.</p><p>
I have a girlfriend who I affectionately refer to as a "bundle of fear with hair." Although this is a joke, a gentle rib, there is truth to the statement. &nbsp;She interprets life in a way that is completely foreign to me. &nbsp;She is afraid of heights. OK, I can understand that one. &nbsp;She is afraid of her plane crashing. OK, I'll buy that. &nbsp;But she is also afraid of her car breaking down on the highway... it's a fairly new car, in good condition, never broken down before... but this is a persistent fear. &nbsp;As to why it would be so horrible to break down on the highway? &nbsp;Because she might get stuck in the center lane, and then her hazard lights might not work, or people might not see them, and traffic will be whizzing by, and someone will hit her and kill her. &nbsp;Uh huh. Seems unlikely to me, but.... A salesman seems genuinely nice to her, so she wonders why. Is he ripping her off? &nbsp;Should she not be paying so much? &nbsp;A gentleman opens a door for her at a restaraunt... she worries. &nbsp;Does she have to talk to him now? What if he buys her a drink? &nbsp;What if he wants to sleep with her? &nbsp;What if he follows her out to her car and rapes her?</p><p>
It goes on and on. &nbsp;As much as I try to apply logic to any of these scenarios, and she will laugh it off and say she knows she is being "silly," I know the fear persists. &nbsp;It colors everything she does, every decision she makes.</p><p>
I have another girlfriend. &nbsp;She has a beautiful, healthy, happy and playful 6-month old daughter. &nbsp;All the things you can potentially worry about while pregnant are now behind her. &nbsp;Yet she is having nightmares every night. &nbsp;About what, you ask? &nbsp;Someone kidnapping her daughter. &nbsp;I ask, "Why would someone kidnap her? &nbsp;You are neither rich nor famous... people generally kidnap for some benefit (i.e. ransom). &nbsp;Why would they take her?" &nbsp;"Because she is so beautiful - people come up to me on the street just to tell me how beautiful she is. It makes me really nervous."</p><p>
What kind of world are we living in when a simple polite gesture (holding a door, complimenting a baby) is cause for such anxiety? &nbsp;All I know is that I reason and reason with my friends, but I simply fail to see the world as they do. &nbsp;I am continuously surprised by the ways in which they can manufacture fear out of the wispiest of strands. &nbsp;</p><p>
So, what can be done? &nbsp;Surely our media carries much of the blame with it's selective reporting of the day's latest bad news. &nbsp;But can they really be blamed, when that is what sells? &nbsp;And how to tell your friends to completely avoid the media? &nbsp;Surely, as well, our government takes advantage, and pushes it's own agenda by fueling our national obsession with fear. &nbsp;But, why? &nbsp;Why should they even want to? &nbsp;And why should it be so profitable to fear-monger? &nbsp;Truly, I am at a loss.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by David Roberts</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:47:51 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Kaela,</strong></p><p>While the media certainly shares some blame, I think it's also true that a great deal of the differences between people in this department are biochemical.</p><p>
Our basic sense of whether we're fundamentally safe in the world is formed very, very early in life -- the first few years. A baby that's not held enough, or senses fear and anxiety in a parent, or experiences trauma, or whatever, can have their brain circuits wired in a way that makes the excretion of adrenaline (and other danger-indicating hormones) much more frequent and hair-trigger. Those people have a much harder time feeling safe, and it's got nothing at all to do with rational assessment of risk.</p><p>
That's why I think universal post-partum medical care and counseling would be the single most effective progressive policy. When kids are healthy and well-adjusted, they are able to think about others outside themselves. When they're not, they're dominated by their ego and protecting it.

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				<p><strong>Kaela,</strong></p><p>While the media certainly shares some blame, I think it's also true that a great deal of the differences between people in this department are biochemical.</p><p>
Our basic sense of whether we're fundamentally safe in the world is formed very, very early in life -- the first few years. A baby that's not held enough, or senses fear and anxiety in a parent, or experiences trauma, or whatever, can have their brain circuits wired in a way that makes the excretion of adrenaline (and other danger-indicating hormones) much more frequent and hair-trigger. Those people have a much harder time feeling safe, and it's got nothing at all to do with rational assessment of risk.</p><p>
That's why I think universal post-partum medical care and counseling would be the single most effective progressive policy. When kids are healthy and well-adjusted, they are able to think about others outside themselves. When they're not, they're dominated by their ego and protecting it.

<p>www.grist.org</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by SMLowry</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:37:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fear is good for business</strong></p><p>I think fear is good for business, plus it keeps people in their place. Fear is promoted in very insidious ways by the media, by marketers, and by the government. If the populace is mired in fears we are going to be preoccupied by them. Being fearful takes a lot of emotional and psychic energy, energy that could be used in other more productive, more relaxing, happier, ways.</p>
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				<p><strong>Fear is good for business</strong></p><p>I think fear is good for business, plus it keeps people in their place. Fear is promoted in very insidious ways by the media, by marketers, and by the government. If the populace is mired in fears we are going to be preoccupied by them. Being fearful takes a lot of emotional and psychic energy, energy that could be used in other more productive, more relaxing, happier, ways.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:00:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fear and Place</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Are most people really so governed by fear? &nbsp;I don't think that most of the people I know are. &nbsp;Neither here in China, or in America. &nbsp;And I disagree that we come by fear as a way of life naturally through evolution. &nbsp;There are alternate views (grin).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The military spending is not about protecting us from our enemies, it is about controlling and dominating the world. &nbsp;People aren't joking when they talk about the new American Empire.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;If that is fear, then every one arrested for theft should claim they were acting out of fear.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Ummm, maybe some people are afraid because they don't get out enough? &nbsp;Are the specific examples folks are citing people who spend too much time on the internet, in their homes, in front of tvs? &nbsp;If you go out and actually interact with the world, your fears may subside.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;I especially agree with SMLowry that fear is used by others to control us. &nbsp;It always has been.</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Fear and Place</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Are most people really so governed by fear? &nbsp;I don't think that most of the people I know are. &nbsp;Neither here in China, or in America. &nbsp;And I disagree that we come by fear as a way of life naturally through evolution. &nbsp;There are alternate views (grin).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The military spending is not about protecting us from our enemies, it is about controlling and dominating the world. &nbsp;People aren't joking when they talk about the new American Empire.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;If that is fear, then every one arrested for theft should claim they were acting out of fear.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Ummm, maybe some people are afraid because they don't get out enough? &nbsp;Are the specific examples folks are citing people who spend too much time on the internet, in their homes, in front of tvs? &nbsp;If you go out and actually interact with the world, your fears may subside.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;I especially agree with SMLowry that fear is used by others to control us. &nbsp;It always has been.</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by redjenny</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:34:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fear is not a rational emotion but it is very real<p>Unfortunately fear is easily manipulated because people are notoriously bad at judging risk. Excellent book on this subject: False Alarm: The Truth About the Epidemic of Fear by Marc Siegel. &nbsp;Fear is also, I think, one of the main reasons people <a href="http://redjenny.blogspot.com/2006/03/why-do-people-vote-right-wing_16.html" rel="nofollow">vote right wing, despite the fact that right wing policies are harmful to the majority. We shouldn't, however, look down on people for their irrational fear - we all have irrational fears of one sort or another. Fear is very complicated and ridiculing someone for their reactions certainly doesn't help - the fear reaction is very real and creates a biological response. If the media accurately reflected reality, it would make a big difference. Imagine if every person killed in a car accident, or by cancer, or heart disease got first page coverage!</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Fear is not a rational emotion but it is very real<p>Unfortunately fear is easily manipulated because people are notoriously bad at judging risk. Excellent book on this subject: False Alarm: The Truth About the Epidemic of Fear by Marc Siegel. &nbsp;Fear is also, I think, one of the main reasons people <a href="http://redjenny.blogspot.com/2006/03/why-do-people-vote-right-wing_16.html" rel="nofollow">vote right wing, despite the fact that right wing policies are harmful to the majority. We shouldn't, however, look down on people for their irrational fear - we all have irrational fears of one sort or another. Fear is very complicated and ridiculing someone for their reactions certainly doesn't help - the fear reaction is very real and creates a biological response. If the media accurately reflected reality, it would make a big difference. Imagine if every person killed in a car accident, or by cancer, or heart disease got first page coverage!</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:24:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fear and loathing</strong></p><p>Naturally I agree that fear is very real and make no attempt to ridicule anyone for their fears. I honestly, at times, am baffled by the very range and substance of things that people manage to fear.</p><p>
I suspect David has a good point and that our aptitude, as it were, for fearfulness is related to very early childhood experiences. &nbsp;I've always likened my friends' increased fear-factor to my own hyper-alert immune system; &nbsp;I am allergic to pretty much anything new &amp; foreign to my system, until such time as my system gets used to it. [Hence, on any vacation I am packing plenty of Claritin, Benadryl, Benadryl gel, you get the picture]. &nbsp;My friends often marvel at how my body will instantly erupt in hives because the air is carrying different particles in, say, Sedona, AZ or Lisbon or Frankfurt. &nbsp;My response is usually that my histamine system is simply hyper-aware, or in a constant state of up-regulation. &nbsp;Perhaps it is the same with fear and fearful people have constantly up-regulated adrenergic receptors.</p><p>
At any rate, I do believe that there is a "nature vs nurture" argument here as well. Some people may be more likely to be affected by fear (perhaps they possess an up-regulated adrenergic system) however fear can also be a learned response. &nbsp;My mother was never a particularly fearful person, in fact many may have called her fearless, but as she ages, she worries more and more about big things and small. &nbsp;Daily worries about remembering to buy the right coffee are right on the shelf with global warming. &nbsp;Why is it that our elderly have a tendency to become fearful? &nbsp;I don't know that I believe it is purely biological.</p>
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				<p><strong>Fear and loathing</strong></p><p>Naturally I agree that fear is very real and make no attempt to ridicule anyone for their fears. I honestly, at times, am baffled by the very range and substance of things that people manage to fear.</p><p>
I suspect David has a good point and that our aptitude, as it were, for fearfulness is related to very early childhood experiences. &nbsp;I've always likened my friends' increased fear-factor to my own hyper-alert immune system; &nbsp;I am allergic to pretty much anything new &amp; foreign to my system, until such time as my system gets used to it. [Hence, on any vacation I am packing plenty of Claritin, Benadryl, Benadryl gel, you get the picture]. &nbsp;My friends often marvel at how my body will instantly erupt in hives because the air is carrying different particles in, say, Sedona, AZ or Lisbon or Frankfurt. &nbsp;My response is usually that my histamine system is simply hyper-aware, or in a constant state of up-regulation. &nbsp;Perhaps it is the same with fear and fearful people have constantly up-regulated adrenergic receptors.</p><p>
At any rate, I do believe that there is a "nature vs nurture" argument here as well. Some people may be more likely to be affected by fear (perhaps they possess an up-regulated adrenergic system) however fear can also be a learned response. &nbsp;My mother was never a particularly fearful person, in fact many may have called her fearless, but as she ages, she worries more and more about big things and small. &nbsp;Daily worries about remembering to buy the right coffee are right on the shelf with global warming. &nbsp;Why is it that our elderly have a tendency to become fearful? &nbsp;I don't know that I believe it is purely biological.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by sunflower</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:36:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I want to live in Canada.</strong></p><p>Cassandra is board certified in geriatric psychiatry and told me that fear comes with age, sometimes an early indication of dementia. &nbsp;</p><p>
My brain is shrinking. </p><p>
Also, an autopsy survey was done on adrenal glands, those lumps that sit on top of the kidneys that control fear. &nbsp; Adrenal glands are much larger in the U.S. than in other countries. &nbsp;O' Canada.</p>
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				<p><strong>I want to live in Canada.</strong></p><p>Cassandra is board certified in geriatric psychiatry and told me that fear comes with age, sometimes an early indication of dementia. &nbsp;</p><p>
My brain is shrinking. </p><p>
Also, an autopsy survey was done on adrenal glands, those lumps that sit on top of the kidneys that control fear. &nbsp; Adrenal glands are much larger in the U.S. than in other countries. &nbsp;O' Canada.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by johnrplatt</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 09:24:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fear is Marketing 101 -- but we need to do better</strong></p><p>Fear is one of the most important motivators in marketing, and when we're spreading the word about environmental problems, that's what we're doing.</p><p>
But it can backfire. A recent study showed that the media uses such a "we're doomed" tone in its stories about global warming (not to mention everything else) that the average person feels the problem is so much larger than anything they would be able to do to combat it. And so they take no action.</p><p>
Environmentalists need to concentrate on the success stories and on enabling people to take action. Fear can still be a motivator, but there is a better one --- hope.

<p>http://extinctionblog.typepad.com</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Fear is Marketing 101 -- but we need to do better</strong></p><p>Fear is one of the most important motivators in marketing, and when we're spreading the word about environmental problems, that's what we're doing.</p><p>
But it can backfire. A recent study showed that the media uses such a "we're doomed" tone in its stories about global warming (not to mention everything else) that the average person feels the problem is so much larger than anything they would be able to do to combat it. And so they take no action.</p><p>
Environmentalists need to concentrate on the success stories and on enabling people to take action. Fear can still be a motivator, but there is a better one --- hope.

<p>http://extinctionblog.typepad.com</p></p>
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