<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for New NSIDC director on “death spiral” Arctic ice]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by human power http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/ Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:58:26 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/1 Goodness me, I really enjoyed this article and, especially, its links. I am still chuckling about ASS-wholes. I'm going to have to seriously consider changing my pesonna since it would be embarrassing to have my being a traditional a**hole confused with being an ASS-whole.

]]> Goodness me, I really enjoyed this article and, especially, its links. I am still chuckling about ASS-wholes. I'm going to have to seriously consider changing my pesonna since it would be embarrassing to have my being a traditional a**hole confused with being an ASS-whole.

]]> Comment #2 by Anna Haynes http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/ Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:17:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/2 Comment #3 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/ Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:28:08 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/3 Record low ice should mean record high sea levels...right?

No sign of that.

]]> Record low ice should mean record high sea levels...right?

No sign of that.

]]> Comment #4 by Brudaimonia http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/ Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:21:18 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/4 CO2 Sharkey,

Of course, sea ice is already displacing seawater, so its melting does not create a direct sea level rise.  But, as the article mentions, melting sea ice does cause a warming effect through decreased albedo.

Sea level rise occurs through thermal expansion of the oceans and melting land ice, like glaciers.  And sea level has been rising more drastically than the IPCC thought even two years ago.

So, melting sea ice does cause sea level rise, just indirectly through the albedo feedback, which takes time.

]]> CO2 Sharkey,

Of course, sea ice is already displacing seawater, so its melting does not create a direct sea level rise.  But, as the article mentions, melting sea ice does cause a warming effect through decreased albedo.

Sea level rise occurs through thermal expansion of the oceans and melting land ice, like glaciers.  And sea level has been rising more drastically than the IPCC thought even two years ago.

So, melting sea ice does cause sea level rise, just indirectly through the albedo feedback, which takes time.

]]> Comment #5 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/ Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:52:27 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/exclusive-new-nsidc-director-explains-the-death-spiral-of-arctic-ice-brushe/5 What a load of malarky.

You people go on and on and on about "Science" and what it means.


But at some point, for it to be Science, it has to be proven right by the data.


This is yet another case where the data absolutely contradicts all the pronouncements of the "Scientists".


And the fact despite Romm's backpedaling articles, that there is ZERO HURRICANE activity in the last two years contradicts another major prediction.

Is it Science to make predictions and then have them come false?

No.  That is not science.  The IPCC is not science.  Romm is not science...and you, sir, are not science!

 




]]> What a load of malarky.

You people go on and on and on about "Science" and what it means.


But at some point, for it to be Science, it has to be proven right by the data.


This is yet another case where the data absolutely contradicts all the pronouncements of the "Scientists".


And the fact despite Romm's backpedaling articles, that there is ZERO HURRICANE activity in the last two years contradicts another major prediction.

Is it Science to make predictions and then have them come false?

No.  That is not science.  The IPCC is not science.  Romm is not science...and you, sir, are not science!

 




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