<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Billionaires for Obama]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by enki http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:16:05 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/1 And the story is?

Why is it news that a Presidential candidate is meeting with business and industry leaders? Isn't this the normal course? Or should Obama shun all corporate involvement and live in a fantasy world where the will of the average person actually means something and our government isn't as driven by the rich as is our economy? Please..

Mike Johnston

]]> And the story is?

Why is it news that a Presidential candidate is meeting with business and industry leaders? Isn't this the normal course? Or should Obama shun all corporate involvement and live in a fantasy world where the will of the average person actually means something and our government isn't as driven by the rich as is our economy? Please..

Mike Johnston

]]> Comment #2 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:22:52 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/2 Obama is a politician

not a saint. He is heavily influenced by coal, Midwest auto parts manufacturing, and ethanol interests. Once we get him in office we really need to start hammering on him.

He knows what is wrong with corn ethanol by now. He continues pandering to the ethanol lobby only because his polls are showing that this won't cost him votes ...yet. That is why we have to continue to educate the public. Only when the polls show a downturn for ethanol support will he have a moral epiphany and "do the right thing."

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Obama is a politician

not a saint. He is heavily influenced by coal, Midwest auto parts manufacturing, and ethanol interests. Once we get him in office we really need to start hammering on him.

He knows what is wrong with corn ethanol by now. He continues pandering to the ethanol lobby only because his polls are showing that this won't cost him votes ...yet. That is why we have to continue to educate the public. Only when the polls show a downturn for ethanol support will he have a moral epiphany and "do the right thing."

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Comment #3 by Bob Wallace http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:38:08 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/3 Freezing out the big boys...

I'd like a President who served all of the American people rather than 49% (dwindling to ~20%).

Big business is a part of our country.  Corn farmers are part of our country.  Big oil is part of our country.

There's a difference between listening to the concerns of large entities and being under their control.

If we want equal (or better than equal ;o) access to Obama's ear then we need to continue doing what we've done so far.  Contribute to his campaign, show up at his rallies, and when the time comes vote for him.

If we force Obama to take large amounts of corporate money in order to carry out his campaign then our loss of access is our own fault.

]]> Freezing out the big boys...

I'd like a President who served all of the American people rather than 49% (dwindling to ~20%).

Big business is a part of our country.  Corn farmers are part of our country.  Big oil is part of our country.

There's a difference between listening to the concerns of large entities and being under their control.

If we want equal (or better than equal ;o) access to Obama's ear then we need to continue doing what we've done so far.  Contribute to his campaign, show up at his rallies, and when the time comes vote for him.

If we force Obama to take large amounts of corporate money in order to carry out his campaign then our loss of access is our own fault.

]]> Comment #4 by JMG http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:10:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/4 Great bumper sticker

About sums it up:

http://www.cafepress.com/edgeofthewest.278096071

The 5% Project

]]> Great bumper sticker

About sums it up:

http://www.cafepress.com/edgeofthewest.278096071

The 5% Project

]]> Comment #5 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:31:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/5 How to

Avoid the disappointment.

That's right Bob, small grassroots donations are the key.  A short note with a monthly 10 bucks might get some attention, if spread across millions of eco-minded contributors.

Short notes, maybe just this "Corn ethanol nearly doubles green house gases" and a link  like this    

http://www.grist.org/news/2008/02/08/biofu/index.html

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> How to

Avoid the disappointment.

That's right Bob, small grassroots donations are the key.  A short note with a monthly 10 bucks might get some attention, if spread across millions of eco-minded contributors.

Short notes, maybe just this "Corn ethanol nearly doubles green house gases" and a link  like this    

http://www.grist.org/news/2008/02/08/biofu/index.html

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Comment #6 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:34:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/6 12 more years


The fact is the next President, no matter who he or she is, will be serving the 3rd Bush term.

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The fact is the next President, no matter who he or she is, will be serving the 3rd Bush term.

]]> Comment #7 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:53:47 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/7 hmm


Blowing In: What's Behind Duke's Wind-Power Push?
"You can build large utility scale wind farms and power plants relatively fast compared to anything else and build them cheaper than any renewable energy at this stage. That makes wind very attractive to us," [Duke Energy Generation Services president Wouter] van Kempen said in a conference call with reporters.
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/06/27/blow ...

Real push, or Greenwash?  Or both?




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Blowing In: What's Behind Duke's Wind-Power Push?
"You can build large utility scale wind farms and power plants relatively fast compared to anything else and build them cheaper than any renewable energy at this stage. That makes wind very attractive to us," [Duke Energy Generation Services president Wouter] van Kempen said in a conference call with reporters.
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/06/27/blow ...

Real push, or Greenwash?  Or both?




]]> Comment #8 by MAD MAC http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/ Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:39:52 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/ethanol-with-your-coal-anyone/8 Jesus Bob, this makes sense

That's why I can see most of the environmentalists on this page ignoring it. they are against anything and everything....... full of negativism.

"If we want equal (or better than equal ;o) access to Obama's ear then we need to continue doing what we've done so far.  Contribute to his campaign, show up at his rallies, and when the time comes vote for him."

Victory in Pattani

]]> Jesus Bob, this makes sense

That's why I can see most of the environmentalists on this page ignoring it. they are against anything and everything....... full of negativism.

"If we want equal (or better than equal ;o) access to Obama's ear then we need to continue doing what we've done so far.  Contribute to his campaign, show up at his rallies, and when the time comes vote for him."

Victory in Pattani

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