<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Setting a standard for other candidates, perhaps?]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Shawn http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/ Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:59:48 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/1 Cool

He's a politician so of course it is spin, but I'm okay with that. I'm just happy when they spin in the right direction for a change =)

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He's a politician so of course it is spin, but I'm okay with that. I'm just happy when they spin in the right direction for a change =)

]]> Comment #2 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/ Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:48:32 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/2 Tom Vilsack

Well, why shouldn't Edwards play up to the Iowa caucus?  He did well there in 2004, and has recently been polling at or near the top in that state.  (Hillary is also well placed there.)  I received his "carbon-neutral" letter yesterday, and was indeed impressed by his praise of Governor Vilsack, for being the leader in this matter.

Edwards has already come out with a serious, detailed plan for health care reform which has won him a lot of praise.  I am not at all surprised that in the time following the interview with George Stephanopoulos (and note the humbly appreciative praise of Al Gore, also a good move for a Democratic candidate right now), Edwards has done a fair amount of thinking about global warming, and about the responsibility of those in positions of leadership to lead the mitigation effort.

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

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Well, why shouldn't Edwards play up to the Iowa caucus?  He did well there in 2004, and has recently been polling at or near the top in that state.  (Hillary is also well placed there.)  I received his "carbon-neutral" letter yesterday, and was indeed impressed by his praise of Governor Vilsack, for being the leader in this matter.

Edwards has already come out with a serious, detailed plan for health care reform which has won him a lot of praise.  I am not at all surprised that in the time following the interview with George Stephanopoulos (and note the humbly appreciative praise of Al Gore, also a good move for a Democratic candidate right now), Edwards has done a fair amount of thinking about global warming, and about the responsibility of those in positions of leadership to lead the mitigation effort.

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> Comment #3 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/ Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:39:26 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/3 CO2 -- Fuel of The Future

Why are Dems throwing away a precious fuel such as CO2?   That's right a fuel, as reported by New Scientist:

A new catalyst that can split carbon dioxide gas could allow us to use carbon from the atmosphere as a fuel source in a similar way to plants.

"Breaking open the very stable bonds in CO2 is one of the biggest challenges in synthetic chemistry," says Frederic Goettmann, a chemist at the Max Planck Institute for Colloids and Interfaces in Potsdam, Germany. "But plants have been doing it for millions of years."

Catalyst could help turn CO2 into fuel

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Why are Dems throwing away a precious fuel such as CO2?   That's right a fuel, as reported by New Scientist:

A new catalyst that can split carbon dioxide gas could allow us to use carbon from the atmosphere as a fuel source in a similar way to plants.

"Breaking open the very stable bonds in CO2 is one of the biggest challenges in synthetic chemistry," says Frederic Goettmann, a chemist at the Max Planck Institute for Colloids and Interfaces in Potsdam, Germany. "But plants have been doing it for millions of years."

Catalyst could help turn CO2 into fuel

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]]> Comment #4 by Steve Erickson http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/ Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:16:06 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/4 CO2 Fuel of the Future

As usual Tex, you're jumping to conclusions that fit your agenda. Read the article you quoted. Most basically, its a long long way from here  - early promising research - to there - a mass scale method for "fixing" CO2 from burning fossil fuels in a relatively energy efficient full cycle process that also ties up the CO2 (i.e. keeps it out of the atmosphere) for very long periods of time (>1000s of years).
By the way, are you able to charge more for your services by calling them "memetics" than the more common terms "public relations" or "propaganda?"

Steve E.


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As usual Tex, you're jumping to conclusions that fit your agenda. Read the article you quoted. Most basically, its a long long way from here  - early promising research - to there - a mass scale method for "fixing" CO2 from burning fossil fuels in a relatively energy efficient full cycle process that also ties up the CO2 (i.e. keeps it out of the atmosphere) for very long periods of time (>1000s of years).
By the way, are you able to charge more for your services by calling them "memetics" than the more common terms "public relations" or "propaganda?"

Steve E.


]]> Comment #5 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/ Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:28:58 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/5 CO2 Fuel of the Future

You argued:

(1) As usual (2) Tex  (3) your agenda

(1) As usual what?
(2) Not my name...stop insulting me directly because of my ideas
(3) My "agenda" is to decrease ad hominem attacks and increase intelligence in the global warming debate.

Most basically, its a long long way from here

As for many alternative fuel technologies...but I think what's fascinating about it is just the change in perspective...seeing a 'waste' as fuel...that's the very basis of sustainability.

are you able to charge more for your services by calling them "memetics" than the more common terms "public relations" or "propaganda?"

Memetics is about, in part, changing the perspective of people...trying to get them to see things 180 degrees around.  That a waste can be a fuel, for example.

The Texeme Construct offers international text memetics construction and textcasting services. http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com



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You argued:

(1) As usual (2) Tex  (3) your agenda

(1) As usual what?
(2) Not my name...stop insulting me directly because of my ideas
(3) My "agenda" is to decrease ad hominem attacks and increase intelligence in the global warming debate.

Most basically, its a long long way from here

As for many alternative fuel technologies...but I think what's fascinating about it is just the change in perspective...seeing a 'waste' as fuel...that's the very basis of sustainability.

are you able to charge more for your services by calling them "memetics" than the more common terms "public relations" or "propaganda?"

Memetics is about, in part, changing the perspective of people...trying to get them to see things 180 degrees around.  That a waste can be a fuel, for example.

The Texeme Construct offers international text memetics construction and textcasting services. http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com



]]> Comment #6 by ltlf653 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/ Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:40:33 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-goes-carbon-neutral/6 picking the RIGHT carbon offset provider

Kudos to Edwards for making his carbon neutrality mean something. The carbon offsets he purchased are actually meaningful--he bought from NativeEnergy which provides offsets from renewable energy projects that wouldn't be able to happen without offset revenue.

Contrast that to a provider like TerraPass who uses renewable energy sources that would exist anyways, without offset revenue (read: your dollars aren't doing anything special!). Check it out in this  BizWeek article debunking TerraPass in particular. And again, good for Edwards for being a conscientious purchaser!

]]> picking the RIGHT carbon offset provider

Kudos to Edwards for making his carbon neutrality mean something. The carbon offsets he purchased are actually meaningful--he bought from NativeEnergy which provides offsets from renewable energy projects that wouldn't be able to happen without offset revenue.

Contrast that to a provider like TerraPass who uses renewable energy sources that would exist anyways, without offset revenue (read: your dollars aren't doing anything special!). Check it out in this  BizWeek article debunking TerraPass in particular. And again, good for Edwards for being a conscientious purchaser!

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