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            <title>Comment #1 by GreenEngineer</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/edwards-and-compatibility/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:47:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>next question</strong></p><p>What is their criteria for "compatibility"? &nbsp;Does this mean IGCC (as it should), or does this include the (currently pie-in-the-sky) possibility of sequestration from conventional plants?</p>
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				<p><strong>next question</strong></p><p>What is their criteria for "compatibility"? &nbsp;Does this mean IGCC (as it should), or does this include the (currently pie-in-the-sky) possibility of sequestration from conventional plants?</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by David Roberts</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:54:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It means IGCC ...</strong></p><p>... though to be honest, they didn't strike me as having a very good grasp on the subject. ("What is it, 'IPGG'?" "No, IGCC." "Yeah, that.")

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				<p><strong>It means IGCC ...</strong></p><p>... though to be honest, they didn't strike me as having a very good grasp on the subject. ("What is it, 'IPGG'?" "No, IGCC." "Yeah, that.")

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            <title>Comment #3 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:54:13 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>All I know is that<p>You can gasify the coal before you burn it. This allows you to separate the CO2 from the combustibles but,<p>


Gasifying coal is expensive, so you increase costs for no return if you don't use the gas for something.<p>
I am familiar with only two ideas to get rid of the CO2. &nbsp;Pump it down old oil wells or into the ocean floor.<p>


Both methods are totally experimental with a low probability of success, and both require your power plant to be built near an old oil well or the ocean so you have a place to pump the CO2.<p>
If this is close to accruate, then building them makes no sense whatsoever. Anyone more knowledgeable out there to fill in the blanks?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>All I know is that<p>You can gasify the coal before you burn it. This allows you to separate the CO2 from the combustibles but,<p>


Gasifying coal is expensive, so you increase costs for no return if you don't use the gas for something.<p>
I am familiar with only two ideas to get rid of the CO2. &nbsp;Pump it down old oil wells or into the ocean floor.<p>


Both methods are totally experimental with a low probability of success, and both require your power plant to be built near an old oil well or the ocean so you have a place to pump the CO2.<p>
If this is close to accruate, then building them makes no sense whatsoever. Anyone more knowledgeable out there to fill in the blanks?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by David Roberts</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:12:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ah, but here's the rub</strong></p><p>If we build a bunch of new coal plants -- even if they are IGCC plants -- we have to make it work, no matter how much money it costs. The only other alternative is simply shutting them all down.</p><p>
That's why Edwards' "moratorium" is much weaker than it looks. Allowing a bunch of IGCC plants to be built commits us to making sequestration work, even if it ends up making no economic sense.

<p>grist.org</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Ah, but here's the rub</strong></p><p>If we build a bunch of new coal plants -- even if they are IGCC plants -- we have to make it work, no matter how much money it costs. The only other alternative is simply shutting them all down.</p><p>
That's why Edwards' "moratorium" is much weaker than it looks. Allowing a bunch of IGCC plants to be built commits us to making sequestration work, even if it ends up making no economic sense.

<p>grist.org</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Chaoslillith</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:53:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Who in the campaign did you speak with?<p>Name please?<p>
I would like to verify with that person as well as with others from the campaign. Otherwise, this is unsubstantiated hearsay. 

<p>Come check out my blog. <a href="http://www.environmentalprogress.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.environmentalprogress.blogspot.com/</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Who in the campaign did you speak with?<p>Name please?<p>
I would like to verify with that person as well as with others from the campaign. Otherwise, this is unsubstantiated hearsay. 

<p>Come check out my blog. <a href="http://www.environmentalprogress.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.environmentalprogress.blogspot.com/</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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