<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Joel Stein of <em>Time</em> takes a poke at the locavores]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Erik Hoffner http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:50:57 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/1 Time for 'Locavores' to Shut Up and Eat

Thanks for bringing this asinine "experiment" to our attention. Too bad, since Stein could do some actual good with his column.

But then again, that's what the media does with any movement that they perceive as a fad. NPR started taking pokes at the local food movement in December: anyone hear this recent rant entitled "It's Time for 'Locavores' to Shut Up and Eat" ?

"The New Oxford American Dictionary chose "locavore" as its 2007 Word of the Year. Commentator Amy Stewart says it's time to change the subject and end the year of eating locally."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1772 ...

The commentator makes some valid comments about how too much time at festive meals these days is directed at just how local the meal constituents are. Unfortunately, the bored commentator misses the subtext, that this is more than idle chat about ingredients: it's people discussing community.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: 1,100+ grassroots groups working for conservation & more


]]> Time for 'Locavores' to Shut Up and Eat

Thanks for bringing this asinine "experiment" to our attention. Too bad, since Stein could do some actual good with his column.

But then again, that's what the media does with any movement that they perceive as a fad. NPR started taking pokes at the local food movement in December: anyone hear this recent rant entitled "It's Time for 'Locavores' to Shut Up and Eat" ?

"The New Oxford American Dictionary chose "locavore" as its 2007 Word of the Year. Commentator Amy Stewart says it's time to change the subject and end the year of eating locally."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1772 ...

The commentator makes some valid comments about how too much time at festive meals these days is directed at just how local the meal constituents are. Unfortunately, the bored commentator misses the subtext, that this is more than idle chat about ingredients: it's people discussing community.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: 1,100+ grassroots groups working for conservation & more


]]> Comment #2 by ceolrince http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:13:26 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/2 Nice response

Thank you so much for writing this post. The TIME article made my blood boil and I'm pleased to see a rational and thoughtful response here. I would have shoved my backyard-grown carrots down his throat :)

]]> Nice response

Thank you so much for writing this post. The TIME article made my blood boil and I'm pleased to see a rational and thoughtful response here. I would have shoved my backyard-grown carrots down his throat :)

]]> Comment #3 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:45:11 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/3 Time

The flagship of mass delusional media.  They had perfected misinformation while the NYT and WSJ were still doing it out of sheer ignorance and incompetence.

Are their any cannibals Stein could be shipped halfway around the world too?  Nice american fat marbled, fat head for dinner folks!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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The flagship of mass delusional media.  They had perfected misinformation while the NYT and WSJ were still doing it out of sheer ignorance and incompetence.

Are their any cannibals Stein could be shipped halfway around the world too?  Nice american fat marbled, fat head for dinner folks!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #4 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:10:55 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/4 Après nous le déluge

"My sense of geography is so bad," Stein admits.  Well, for starters that is OK.  But the full list of what he has a bad sense of goes on and on.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Après nous le déluge

"My sense of geography is so bad," Stein admits.  Well, for starters that is OK.  But the full list of what he has a bad sense of goes on and on.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #5 by Expat Chef http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:04:19 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/5 NPR Rant

You can view the response of the Eat Local Challenge authors to Amy Stewart's NPR rant over at the eatlocalchallenge.com site.

Ironically, Ms. Stewart published an article in the NYTimes about the importance of local flower shops. Seems a bit of a contradiction, huh?

The author of this long distance menu probably missed a much better meal closer to home. Oh well, his loss.

You are welcome in my "kitchen" for a recipe, family moments, a laugh, and some political discussion. http://expatriateskitchen.blogspot.com

]]> NPR Rant

You can view the response of the Eat Local Challenge authors to Amy Stewart's NPR rant over at the eatlocalchallenge.com site.

Ironically, Ms. Stewart published an article in the NYTimes about the importance of local flower shops. Seems a bit of a contradiction, huh?

The author of this long distance menu probably missed a much better meal closer to home. Oh well, his loss.

You are welcome in my "kitchen" for a recipe, family moments, a laugh, and some political discussion. http://expatriateskitchen.blogspot.com

]]> Comment #6 by ecopower http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:38:43 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/6 Actually, the author is Joel Stein

Just wanted to point out that the author's name is actually Joel Stein, and he's a long-time humor columnist for Time and others.

]]> Actually, the author is Joel Stein

Just wanted to point out that the author's name is actually Joel Stein, and he's a long-time humor columnist for Time and others.

]]> Comment #7 by Tom Philpott http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:59:08 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/7 Thanks, ecopower

Error fixed.

Victual Reality

]]> Thanks, ecopower

Error fixed.

Victual Reality

]]> Comment #8 by PermieWriter http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:28:10 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/8 Carrot brigade

Ceolrince, I'm with you. And thanks to my clay soils, my homegrown Nantes are fat enough that they just might shut him up.

This is the sort of reporting that makes me glad I got out of journalism when I did. There's some afterlife waiting for Stein wherein he subsides on nothing but unleached acorns he gathered himself. Grrr....

Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

]]> Carrot brigade

Ceolrince, I'm with you. And thanks to my clay soils, my homegrown Nantes are fat enough that they just might shut him up.

This is the sort of reporting that makes me glad I got out of journalism when I did. There's some afterlife waiting for Stein wherein he subsides on nothing but unleached acorns he gathered himself. Grrr....

Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

]]> Comment #9 by kimberleywoelich http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:31:50 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/9 support local.

I would rather support my local farmers and community then to consumer goods that I am not sure of the conditions they were made in! The taste in locally grown food is also different. Example: veggies from farmers markets taste better then the ones in the super market that traveled thousands of miles.

Another benefit of eating locally is, it makes me try new and different things at different times in the year. Whereas shopping from the super market, I usually buy the usual stuff all the time!

]]> support local.

I would rather support my local farmers and community then to consumer goods that I am not sure of the conditions they were made in! The taste in locally grown food is also different. Example: veggies from farmers markets taste better then the ones in the super market that traveled thousands of miles.

Another benefit of eating locally is, it makes me try new and different things at different times in the year. Whereas shopping from the super market, I usually buy the usual stuff all the time!

]]> Comment #10 by EvanElliot http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/ Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:51:45 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/edible-media-anti-local-yokel/10 Don't trash Joel Stein. He's on our side!

If you-all are serious when you bash Joel Stein, it's a shame because deep down, he wasn't bashing locavores. In fact, his essay is (I think) a tongue-in-cheek critique of people who indulge in long-distance dining without know the true consequences of such indulgence. And, Tom Philpott, I'm nearly certain Joel Stein knew what he was saying when he wrote, "Farmers in Southern California, it seems, can grow anything." He's well aware of the bounty to be had in one's backyard, and I imagine he appreciates that bounty. He's just tired of hearing earnest sermons on the virtues of local eating, and he decided to poke some fun. That's what he does, after all.

]]> Don't trash Joel Stein. He's on our side!

If you-all are serious when you bash Joel Stein, it's a shame because deep down, he wasn't bashing locavores. In fact, his essay is (I think) a tongue-in-cheek critique of people who indulge in long-distance dining without know the true consequences of such indulgence. And, Tom Philpott, I'm nearly certain Joel Stein knew what he was saying when he wrote, "Farmers in Southern California, it seems, can grow anything." He's well aware of the bounty to be had in one's backyard, and I imagine he appreciates that bounty. He's just tired of hearing earnest sermons on the virtues of local eating, and he decided to poke some fun. That's what he does, after all.

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