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            <title>Comment #1 by hapa</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:18:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>and then...</strong></p><p>he spat in putin's eye. virtually declared georgia an american protectorate. exactly the right opening statement for a period of negotiation regarding international energy security.</p>
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				<p><strong>and then...</strong></p><p>he spat in putin's eye. virtually declared georgia an american protectorate. exactly the right opening statement for a period of negotiation regarding international energy security.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Colin Wright</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:42:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Eyes on the Prize...</strong></p><p>I caught that too, hapa. I suppose by picking Biden the dems are trying to blunt the Fox-Limbaugh criticisms that Obama is a "softie". So Biden choose to come across as the "bad cop", by bringing up stories that he a tough, scrapper with a sort of testosterone-driven image that will play with the Right. (And at least the dems kept away from the patrician-types like Kerry, who really turn off the blue-collar voters.)</p><p>
But one hopes that Obama will not become the Cold War militarist that Biden was portraying!</p><p>
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				<p><strong>Eyes on the Prize...</strong></p><p>I caught that too, hapa. I suppose by picking Biden the dems are trying to blunt the Fox-Limbaugh criticisms that Obama is a "softie". So Biden choose to come across as the "bad cop", by bringing up stories that he a tough, scrapper with a sort of testosterone-driven image that will play with the Right. (And at least the dems kept away from the patrician-types like Kerry, who really turn off the blue-collar voters.)</p><p>
But one hopes that Obama will not become the Cold War militarist that Biden was portraying!</p><p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by hapa</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:58:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>que sera sera.</strong></p><p>i guess i should preserve the hair on my head. five years from now i'll probably really want to have some left to pull out.</p>
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				<p><strong>que sera sera.</strong></p><p>i guess i should preserve the hair on my head. five years from now i'll probably really want to have some left to pull out.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:34:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Putin vs. Georgia</strong></p><p>The Russian incursion into Georgia is a very complicated issue, with grave implications regarding the security of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine, and perhaps even Poland.</p><p>
Biden's point seems to be (though he barely more than implied it last night): It is in our interests to cherish Georgia's incipient movements toward democracy and friendship with Europe and the US; we should make clear to the Russians that these countries are independent; but of course we also know that maintaining a cordial dialogue with the Russians is of great importance.</p><p>
There was nothing about establishing a protectorate.

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Putin vs. Georgia</strong></p><p>The Russian incursion into Georgia is a very complicated issue, with grave implications regarding the security of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine, and perhaps even Poland.</p><p>
Biden's point seems to be (though he barely more than implied it last night): It is in our interests to cherish Georgia's incipient movements toward democracy and friendship with Europe and the US; we should make clear to the Russians that these countries are independent; but of course we also know that maintaining a cordial dialogue with the Russians is of great importance.</p><p>
There was nothing about establishing a protectorate.

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by mtas7</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:50:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Is that a military contract in your pocket?</strong></p><p>When I heard him state that we were going to rebuild Georgia, I immediately thought of more taxpayer money being siphoned a la Haliburton. Is war and shoddy overseas construction jobs the only way the old guard has to make money? How about taking alternate energy, education and healthcare to a new level? Reforestation and restoration of the environment? Oh, but that would be a longterm goal...and we wouldn't want to disappoint the members of Congress/shareholders who look at the world as a 5-year P&amp;L statement. </p>
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				<p><strong>Is that a military contract in your pocket?</strong></p><p>When I heard him state that we were going to rebuild Georgia, I immediately thought of more taxpayer money being siphoned a la Haliburton. Is war and shoddy overseas construction jobs the only way the old guard has to make money? How about taking alternate energy, education and healthcare to a new level? Reforestation and restoration of the environment? Oh, but that would be a longterm goal...and we wouldn't want to disappoint the members of Congress/shareholders who look at the world as a 5-year P&amp;L statement. </p>
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