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            <title>Comment #1 by nfeder</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:21:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green Is the New Dead</strong></p><p>I thought this was quite an interesting article; I wasn't at all aware of the "green-burial" movement. &nbsp;However, no mention was made of cremation as an option. &nbsp;How does cremation fit into the eco-friendly standards being developed? &nbsp;Will cremated remains be allowed in Conservation Burial Grounds, or will people have to continue scattering ashes (probably illegally) in beautiful places? &nbsp;Thanks.</p>
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				<p><strong>Green Is the New Dead</strong></p><p>I thought this was quite an interesting article; I wasn't at all aware of the "green-burial" movement. &nbsp;However, no mention was made of cremation as an option. &nbsp;How does cremation fit into the eco-friendly standards being developed? &nbsp;Will cremated remains be allowed in Conservation Burial Grounds, or will people have to continue scattering ashes (probably illegally) in beautiful places? &nbsp;Thanks.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:58:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Compost</strong></p><p>I want to be solar oven dried, chipped up, then composted. &nbsp; And mixed back into the wilderness soil.</p><p>
Certify that. &nbsp;As if it were possible.</p>
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				<p><strong>Compost</strong></p><p>I want to be solar oven dried, chipped up, then composted. &nbsp; And mixed back into the wilderness soil.</p><p>
Certify that. &nbsp;As if it were possible.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by skywater</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:34:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green or Jewish?</strong></p><p>This doesn't seem too different from what I understand as a traditional Jewish burial. &nbsp;One can have an eco-friendly burial without certification. &nbsp;Perhaps eco-friendly burial is more in the name than in the thing itself.</p>
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				<p><strong>Green or Jewish?</strong></p><p>This doesn't seem too different from what I understand as a traditional Jewish burial. &nbsp;One can have an eco-friendly burial without certification. &nbsp;Perhaps eco-friendly burial is more in the name than in the thing itself.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by sunflower</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:57:38 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong> Solient Green Gasoline</strong></p><p>Cremation uses a lot of natural gas. &nbsp;</p><p>
They had a huge solar dish designed in India &nbsp;for cremation.</p><p>
How about human biodiesel?<br>
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				<p><strong> Solient Green Gasoline</strong></p><p>Cremation uses a lot of natural gas. &nbsp;</p><p>
They had a huge solar dish designed in India &nbsp;for cremation.</p><p>
How about human biodiesel?<br>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Razmear</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:39:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Fish Food</strong></p><p>I would personally prefer to be buried at sea. <br>
Ideally there would be a Viking funeral pyre, however even just being sunk in the ocean, unembalmed, of course, would suffice. <br>
I would also think it would be far cheaper than the $1950 being charged for a Green Burial. </p><p>
eb</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Fish Food</strong></p><p>I would personally prefer to be buried at sea. <br>
Ideally there would be a Viking funeral pyre, however even just being sunk in the ocean, unembalmed, of course, would suffice. <br>
I would also think it would be far cheaper than the $1950 being charged for a Green Burial. </p><p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by davesjourneys</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:13:59 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Make me Part of the Reef<p>I have already let my family know that I want my ashes incorporated into a concrete casting, which is then incorporated into a man-made reef. &nbsp;Currently the only company offering this service is Eternal Reefs, with dozens of permitted sites off the Florida coast. &nbsp;The website: <a href="http://www.eternalreefs.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eternalreefs.com has photos of the castings which look sort of like perforated domes (I'm guessing that this is to provide maximum surface area to encourage coral growth as well as "caves" for various fish species to occupy/explore).<p>
I love the idea that disposal of my remains will help to create such a beautiful, diverse ecosystem.</p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Make me Part of the Reef<p>I have already let my family know that I want my ashes incorporated into a concrete casting, which is then incorporated into a man-made reef. &nbsp;Currently the only company offering this service is Eternal Reefs, with dozens of permitted sites off the Florida coast. &nbsp;The website: <a href="http://www.eternalreefs.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eternalreefs.com has photos of the castings which look sort of like perforated domes (I'm guessing that this is to provide maximum surface area to encourage coral growth as well as "caves" for various fish species to occupy/explore).<p>
I love the idea that disposal of my remains will help to create such a beautiful, diverse ecosystem.</p></a></p></strong></p>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:31:39 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green Burial - &quot;A Statement of Values&quot;<p>The design of cemeteries and burial grounds has long reflected the cultural values of the peoples that built them. William Gladston, a former British Prime Minister, once remarked, "Show me the manner in which a nation cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty to high ideals." &nbsp;The "green-cemetery" or natural burial ground reflects the changing cultural values of our society and expresses a commitment to a sustainable lifestyle in the most personal manner. <p>
The increasing number of natural burial grounds across North America indicates that this fledgling movement has both significant grass roots support as well as mainstream acceptance. The development of green burial standards will help ensure that that the full potential of this movement is realised. The Green Burial Council should be commended for their leadership and vision.<p>
Forest of Memories, is a non-profit website that provides information and resources supporting the natural burial movement in North America. According the Forest of Memories website, <a href="http://www.forestofmemories.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.forestofmemories.org there are now half a dozen natural burial grounds in the USA with several others planned in both Canada and the States. <p>
The natural burial ground provides a number of benefits for the greater community including an enhancement of the urban greenspace network, development of multi-use recreational spaces and improvement of the ecological diversity of the area. Natural Burial allows people to make one final act, to communicate, in death, a statement of their values about life.<p>
Mike Salisbury is the principal of Earthartist Landscape Architecture - a design firm specialising in the development and design of natural burial grounds<br>
On the web - <a href="http://www.earthartist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthartist.com</a></br></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Green Burial - &quot;A Statement of Values&quot;<p>The design of cemeteries and burial grounds has long reflected the cultural values of the peoples that built them. William Gladston, a former British Prime Minister, once remarked, "Show me the manner in which a nation cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty to high ideals." &nbsp;The "green-cemetery" or natural burial ground reflects the changing cultural values of our society and expresses a commitment to a sustainable lifestyle in the most personal manner. <p>
The increasing number of natural burial grounds across North America indicates that this fledgling movement has both significant grass roots support as well as mainstream acceptance. The development of green burial standards will help ensure that that the full potential of this movement is realised. The Green Burial Council should be commended for their leadership and vision.<p>
Forest of Memories, is a non-profit website that provides information and resources supporting the natural burial movement in North America. According the Forest of Memories website, <a href="http://www.forestofmemories.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.forestofmemories.org there are now half a dozen natural burial grounds in the USA with several others planned in both Canada and the States. <p>
The natural burial ground provides a number of benefits for the greater community including an enhancement of the urban greenspace network, development of multi-use recreational spaces and improvement of the ecological diversity of the area. Natural Burial allows people to make one final act, to communicate, in death, a statement of their values about life.<p>
Mike Salisbury is the principal of Earthartist Landscape Architecture - a design firm specialising in the development and design of natural burial grounds<br>
On the web - <a href="http://www.earthartist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthartist.com</a></br></p></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by howardgw</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:42:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green is the new dead<p>There is good documentation that we continue to pollute soil and groundwater with traditional burial methods. Readers might be interested in two sources of information: &nbsp;U.S. Geological Survey National Mapping Information. [Online]. Available: <a href="http://geonames.usgs.gov" rel="nofollow">http://geonames.usgs.gov.<br>
U.S. Congress, Office of Technology Assessment, Protecting the Nation's Groundwater from Contamination, (Washington, DC U.S. Congress, Office of Technology Assessment, OTA-0-233 1984), 244 p.<br>
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				<p><strong>Green is the new dead<p>There is good documentation that we continue to pollute soil and groundwater with traditional burial methods. Readers might be interested in two sources of information: &nbsp;U.S. Geological Survey National Mapping Information. [Online]. Available: <a href="http://geonames.usgs.gov" rel="nofollow">http://geonames.usgs.gov.<br>
U.S. Congress, Office of Technology Assessment, Protecting the Nation's Groundwater from Contamination, (Washington, DC U.S. Congress, Office of Technology Assessment, OTA-0-233 1984), 244 p.<br>
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            <title>Comment #9 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 04:22:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Death be not proud</strong></p><p>No box underground for me, if I can help it. &nbsp;(Which sounds like an Edgar Allan Poe story, perhaps.)</p><p>
I love the Parsee concept: sticking the dead high up off the earth, on wooden platforms, for the birds of the air to pick off of.</p><p>
Or, even more simply, to leave the dead between high tide mark and low tide mark, on a beach well-visited by crustaceans and birds.</p>
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				<p><strong>Death be not proud</strong></p><p>No box underground for me, if I can help it. &nbsp;(Which sounds like an Edgar Allan Poe story, perhaps.)</p><p>
I love the Parsee concept: sticking the dead high up off the earth, on wooden platforms, for the birds of the air to pick off of.</p><p>
Or, even more simply, to leave the dead between high tide mark and low tide mark, on a beach well-visited by crustaceans and birds.</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:55:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hi, Canis</strong></p><p>Welcome back!</p><p>
I've always preferred the Viking-esque funeral pyre myself... not particulary eco-conscious I suppose, but it appeals to the drama queen in me. (Plus, I have a very Poe-inspired horror of being buried). &nbsp;</p><p>
I envision my friends &amp; family gathered about the bonfire, toasting marshmallows (and imbibing some REALLY good wine) in my honor.</p><p>
Perhaps if we used only salvaged dead-wood from the forest? Compressed wood chips for cleaner burning? &nbsp;Recaptured all the heat and funneled into a giant hottub for my funeral attendees to enjoy??</p><p>
Ah, how I will hate to miss that party.</p><p>
Kaela</p>
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				<p><strong>Hi, Canis</strong></p><p>Welcome back!</p><p>
I've always preferred the Viking-esque funeral pyre myself... not particulary eco-conscious I suppose, but it appeals to the drama queen in me. (Plus, I have a very Poe-inspired horror of being buried). &nbsp;</p><p>
I envision my friends &amp; family gathered about the bonfire, toasting marshmallows (and imbibing some REALLY good wine) in my honor.</p><p>
Perhaps if we used only salvaged dead-wood from the forest? Compressed wood chips for cleaner burning? &nbsp;Recaptured all the heat and funneled into a giant hottub for my funeral attendees to enjoy??</p><p>
Ah, how I will hate to miss that party.</p><p>
Kaela</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:03:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Not bad Kaela!</strong></p><p>I think the solar/wind powered &nbsp;drying before combustion would make the whole process very energy efficient. &nbsp;And using wood that would otherwise cause a more severe forest fire.</p><p>
I like it. &nbsp;But I would insist on being incinerated over a sweat lodge fire used for heating rocks on the shore of the BIG lake. </p><p>
Then the proper prayers could be offered up in the sweat. &nbsp;Join the great spirit on the wind over Gitchegumee.</p><p>
Ditto. &nbsp;Welcome back Canis! &nbsp;You have been missed!</p>
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				<p><strong>Not bad Kaela!</strong></p><p>I think the solar/wind powered &nbsp;drying before combustion would make the whole process very energy efficient. &nbsp;And using wood that would otherwise cause a more severe forest fire.</p><p>
I like it. &nbsp;But I would insist on being incinerated over a sweat lodge fire used for heating rocks on the shore of the BIG lake. </p><p>
Then the proper prayers could be offered up in the sweat. &nbsp;Join the great spirit on the wind over Gitchegumee.</p><p>
Ditto. &nbsp;Welcome back Canis! &nbsp;You have been missed!</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by ChillinTaka</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:59:29 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>intresting!<p>Thanks for the good article.<p>
A couple years ago, I started a burial insurance policy.<p>
I don't know if the policy covers a green burial, which is what I want too. &nbsp;Does anyone know if they will allow me to have my own choice of a ceremony and burial? (Or, lack there of)<p>
What I have; <br>
<a href="http://www.onedollarinsurance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onedollarinsurance.com<p>
Any info would be great. &nbsp;Thanks!</p></a></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>intresting!<p>Thanks for the good article.<p>
A couple years ago, I started a burial insurance policy.<p>
I don't know if the policy covers a green burial, which is what I want too. &nbsp;Does anyone know if they will allow me to have my own choice of a ceremony and burial? (Or, lack there of)<p>
What I have; <br>
<a href="http://www.onedollarinsurance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onedollarinsurance.com<p>
Any info would be great. &nbsp;Thanks!</p></a></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by mrares</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:01:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Check out Trust for Natural Legacies<p>For those of you in the Midwest - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, etc. interested in green or natural burial . . . check out Trust for Natural Legacies. It is an organization that not only promotes green burial, but also educates organizations on how to do it AND aims to operate/own cemetery nature preserves in all of these states. It's doing pretty well so far in Wisconsin and Michigan's UP, and has just started a chapter in Minnesota.<p>
website: <a href="http://www.naturallegacies.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturallegacies.org</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Check out Trust for Natural Legacies<p>For those of you in the Midwest - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, etc. interested in green or natural burial . . . check out Trust for Natural Legacies. It is an organization that not only promotes green burial, but also educates organizations on how to do it AND aims to operate/own cemetery nature preserves in all of these states. It's doing pretty well so far in Wisconsin and Michigan's UP, and has just started a chapter in Minnesota.<p>
website: <a href="http://www.naturallegacies.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturallegacies.org</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Natural Burial Around the World<p>The modern concept of natural burial began in the UK in 1993 and has since spread across the globe. According the Centre for Natural Burial, <a href="http://naturalburial.coop" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://naturalburial.coop there are now several hundred natural burial grounds in the United Kingdom and &nbsp;half a dozen sites across the USA, with others planned in Canada, New Zealand, South Africa and even China. <p>
A natural burial allows you to use your funeral as a conservation tool to create, restore and protect urban green spaces.<p>
The Centre for Natural Burial provides comprehensive resources supporting the development of natural burial and detailed information about natural burial sites around the world. With the Natural Burial Co-operative newsletter you can stay up-to-date with the latest developments in the rapidly growing trend of natural burial including, announcements of new and proposed natural burial sites, book reviews, interviews, stories and feature articles.<p>
<a href="http://naturalburial.coop" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">The Centre for Natural Burial<br>
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				<p><strong>Natural Burial Around the World<p>The modern concept of natural burial began in the UK in 1993 and has since spread across the globe. According the Centre for Natural Burial, <a href="http://naturalburial.coop" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://naturalburial.coop there are now several hundred natural burial grounds in the United Kingdom and &nbsp;half a dozen sites across the USA, with others planned in Canada, New Zealand, South Africa and even China. <p>
A natural burial allows you to use your funeral as a conservation tool to create, restore and protect urban green spaces.<p>
The Centre for Natural Burial provides comprehensive resources supporting the development of natural burial and detailed information about natural burial sites around the world. With the Natural Burial Co-operative newsletter you can stay up-to-date with the latest developments in the rapidly growing trend of natural burial including, announcements of new and proposed natural burial sites, book reviews, interviews, stories and feature articles.<p>
<a href="http://naturalburial.coop" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">The Centre for Natural Burial<br>
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