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            <title>Comment #1 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 05:35:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Eco-chumps<p>Just great, oil independence was the excuse used to drill in the ANWR, and now it is being used as an excuse to subsidize industrial farming, thanks to the latest incarnation of the biofuel fad (its first incarnation was in 1974, just when bell-bottom pants were going out). What are we, a bunch of <a href="http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbox/2005/07/21/penrose-ecochump/index.html" rel="nofollow">eco-chumps?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: <a href="http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Eco-chumps<p>Just great, oil independence was the excuse used to drill in the ANWR, and now it is being used as an excuse to subsidize industrial farming, thanks to the latest incarnation of the biofuel fad (its first incarnation was in 1974, just when bell-bottom pants were going out). What are we, a bunch of <a href="http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbox/2005/07/21/penrose-ecochump/index.html" rel="nofollow">eco-chumps?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: <a href="http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com</a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by jdhlax</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 08:00:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Most Democrats ...</strong></p><p>like most people, put money and business concerns ahead of environmental ones. &nbsp;Only a party that places concerns about life ahead of materialist concerns can be counted on to do the right thing. &nbsp;The European Green Parties seem to be on the right track, but I'm unaware of any party in the U.S. that fits this description. &nbsp;Even if we had one, what chance would it stand of winning any elections outside of places like Berkeley?</p>
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				<p><strong>Most Democrats ...</strong></p><p>like most people, put money and business concerns ahead of environmental ones. &nbsp;Only a party that places concerns about life ahead of materialist concerns can be counted on to do the right thing. &nbsp;The European Green Parties seem to be on the right track, but I'm unaware of any party in the U.S. that fits this description. &nbsp;Even if we had one, what chance would it stand of winning any elections outside of places like Berkeley?</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by trouserdude</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 03:19:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Disappointed in Many Democrats....</strong></p><p>I haven't had the time to fully research why Democrats voted for the energy bill, but that is really disappointing. &nbsp;I don't know how the Democrats expect to gain power if all they can say is that they helped a bad bill with maybe a few good points get through. &nbsp;They need to articulate a different &amp; new vision that people can tap into. </p><p>
I don't expect Democrats to gain power if the Party keeps chugging on by supporting Republican programs. &nbsp;If people like Republican programs, why not just vote Republican? &nbsp;Democrats need to offer a sustainable and beneficial vision that can both inspire and provide for people.</p><p>
So, reading this is pretty disappointing to see how many Senators settled. &nbsp;I am wondering about the House, though, as a greater percentage of Democrats there voted against it. &nbsp;Is there any different vision or backbone coming out of House Democrats?</p>
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				<p><strong>Disappointed in Many Democrats....</strong></p><p>I haven't had the time to fully research why Democrats voted for the energy bill, but that is really disappointing. &nbsp;I don't know how the Democrats expect to gain power if all they can say is that they helped a bad bill with maybe a few good points get through. &nbsp;They need to articulate a different &amp; new vision that people can tap into. </p><p>
I don't expect Democrats to gain power if the Party keeps chugging on by supporting Republican programs. &nbsp;If people like Republican programs, why not just vote Republican? &nbsp;Democrats need to offer a sustainable and beneficial vision that can both inspire and provide for people.</p><p>
So, reading this is pretty disappointing to see how many Senators settled. &nbsp;I am wondering about the House, though, as a greater percentage of Democrats there voted against it. &nbsp;Is there any different vision or backbone coming out of House Democrats?</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by jdhlax</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 14:41:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Relatively Good Democrats</strong></p><p>The only Democrats worth supporting are those in the progressive caucus and most in the black caucus. &nbsp;The rest are just corporate whores or crapitalist pigs like the Republicans.</p>
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				<p><strong>Relatively Good Democrats</strong></p><p>The only Democrats worth supporting are those in the progressive caucus and most in the black caucus. &nbsp;The rest are just corporate whores or crapitalist pigs like the Republicans.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by jdhlax</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 14:41:50 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>And Those Caucuses ...</strong></p><p>are in the House, not the Senate.</p>
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				<p><strong>And Those Caucuses ...</strong></p><p>are in the House, not the Senate.</p>
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